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::I think catching Pokémon in the wild is more of a primary way of getting them than evolving. Otherwise Pokémon like {{p|Butterfree}} would tell you to evolve Metapod instead of catching it on {{rt|2|Kanto}}. And it is really obvious that you evolve Fenniken into Braixen. There are evolution templates on the pages. There are prev-next templates on the top and bottom of the pages, and Pokémon are next to their evolutionary relatives in the National Pokédex unless [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|separated by generation]]. The brief summary at the top often mentions its evolution. So there are plenty of links to {{p|Fennekin}} on {{p|Braixen}}'s page. And the area template only tells you to evolve if it was the only way in-game to do it. Completely removing Friend Safari from the area templates would be lying to people and making it harder to find the [[Friend Safari]] page. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 00:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | ::I think catching Pokémon in the wild is more of a primary way of getting them than evolving. Otherwise Pokémon like {{p|Butterfree}} would tell you to evolve Metapod instead of catching it on {{rt|2|Kanto}}. And it is really obvious that you evolve Fenniken into Braixen. There are evolution templates on the pages. There are prev-next templates on the top and bottom of the pages, and Pokémon are next to their evolutionary relatives in the National Pokédex unless [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|separated by generation]]. The brief summary at the top often mentions its evolution. So there are plenty of links to {{p|Fennekin}} on {{p|Braixen}}'s page. And the area template only tells you to evolve if it was the only way in-game to do it. Completely removing Friend Safari from the area templates would be lying to people and making it harder to find the [[Friend Safari]] page. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 00:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::Except that the Friend Safari technically isn't the wild. It's not a normal method of obtaining a Pokémon IMO because very specific qualifications need to be met in order to obtain it. On pages like Combusken, it says "Evolve Combusken" instead of Trade, because it's the most common way of obtaining it. What I'm trying to say is, the typical way of obtaining Braixen is through evolution, not the Friend Safari. The Friend Safari shouldn't override the evolution method. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 00:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | :::Except that the Friend Safari technically isn't the wild. It's not a normal method of obtaining a Pokémon IMO because very specific qualifications need to be met in order to obtain it. On pages like Combusken, it says "Evolve Combusken" instead of Trade, because it's the most common way of obtaining it. What I'm trying to say is, the typical way of obtaining Braixen is through evolution, not the Friend Safari. The Friend Safari shouldn't override the evolution method. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 00:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Combusken's area entrees for Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, HeartGold, and SoulSilver tells you to evolve Torchic because there is no other way in-game to obtain Combusken and Torchic was obtainable in those games. X and Y tells you to evolve the event Torchic. However, in other games like FireRed and LeafGreen, it tells you to trade because there is no other way to get Torchic or Combusken. Now, let's take {{p|Butterfree}} for instance, in the Johto games, it lists Route 2, Bug-Catching Contest, and Headbutt trees, but doesn't tell you to evolve Metapod even though Metapod can be caught and evolved. However, in the games that don't have wild Butterfree, they do tell you to evolve Metapod because there is no other way to obtain Butterfree in those games. And we have a list of Pokémon that appeared in the [[Friend Safari]] according to a japanese guidebook that seems accurate to people who played the game and been to the Friend Safari. So it does have a set amount that appear. Even though it is random, Pokémon like {{p|Rattata}} wouldn't appear. And I think it is very bad if we just ignore the Friend Safari. And throughout the debate, people have compared it to the [[White Forest]], which we put on the Pokémon that appear there. I do not see the problem in covering it. I only see a problem in not doing so. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 23:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC) | |||