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:::::Hm, I think this is about whether you're (still?) convinced. I'm not convinced either way, but as I said, I wouldn't have said "they're wrong, I know better". On the other hand, maybe they ''are'' wrong. | :::::Hm, I think this is about whether you're (still?) convinced. I'm not convinced either way, but as I said, I wouldn't have said "they're wrong, I know better". On the other hand, maybe they ''are'' wrong. | ||
:::::I thought about that, too, but then what about {{m|Razor Wind}}? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC) | :::::I thought about that, too, but then what about {{m|Razor Wind}}? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC) | ||
::::::Ok, after discussing some of it with friends, I'm almost sure the Smogon guys just unterestimated probabilities. I believe I found out how to "extract" properly, and that their Gen III observations are 20.5% likely to stem from a 1/16 CH ratio (and 79.5% from a 1/8 one; assuming it needs to be one of them), while the Gen IV observations are 13.6% likely (in contrast to 86.4%). That's not really much. | |||
::::::In addition, I tested in Generation III (I'm not easily able to in Gen IV). Out of 50 hits, 9 were critical hits. Despite being a small sample, my apparent "luck" boosts the same measure to 96.8% likely 1/8 chance (and only 3.2% 1/16). | |||
::::::That's not compelling evidence for me that UPC is correct with everything (in particular, whether high CH chance moves are only boosted by 1 stage!), but it is enough for me to seriously doubt the "No increased CH ratio, wrong description" thesis. Is it also enough to convince you? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:35, 7 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
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