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:::::Going by the English games (because we are an English wiki), the only thing you can say about Shinies is that all Pokemon called Shiny have matched the <s>have</s> game colorations. Can you show me where a Pokemon of different colors was called Shiny? | :::::Going by the English games (because we are an English wiki), the only thing you can say about Shinies is that all Pokemon called Shiny have matched the <s>have</s> game colorations. Can you show me where a Pokemon of different colors was called Shiny? | ||
:::::It's all well and good to say that they never said Shinies ''can't'' have other colors, or that Japanese or other terms are broader. But as far as ''English'' goes, you need to show a concrete example that "Shiny" is intended to be broader. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | :::::It's all well and good to say that they never said Shinies ''can't'' have other colors, or that Japanese or other terms are broader. But as far as ''English'' goes, you need to show a concrete example that "Shiny" is intended to be broader. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::::Then you're necessarily stating the "2009-on official definition of Shiny Pokémon" I've provided is wrong, and that means that official term "Alt. Color Pokémon" was never retconned. Therefore, "Alt. Color Pokémon" needs to be its own article and this page needs to be significantly rewritten to undo an impression of equivalency between the terms. --[[User:INTERNETFRIEND|INTERNETFRIEND]] ([[User talk:INTERNETFRIEND|talk]]) 18:42, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Proposed split and redirect == | == Proposed split and redirect == | ||
In the event a consensus is reached that I am incorrect in the above conversation, so that "Shiny Pokémon" is understood to be, for example, "a Pink Butterfree is not shiny," then this means that the article rename in 2009 was incorrect, because at that time the community incorrectly assumed that '''Shiny Pokémon''' as a term retconned/replaced the term '''Alt. Color Pokémon'''. Since you are all now arguing that these are mutually exclusive terms, then that means the term Alt. Color Pokémon was never retconned. I therefore proposed that it would deserve its own page on this wiki, and this article should be rewritten to accomodate for this. --[[User:INTERNETFRIEND|INTERNETFRIEND]] ([[User talk:INTERNETFRIEND|talk]]) 17:43, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | In the event a consensus is reached that I am incorrect in the above conversation, so that "Shiny Pokémon" is understood to be, for example, "a Pink Butterfree is not shiny," then this means that the article rename in 2009 was incorrect, because at that time the community incorrectly assumed that '''Shiny Pokémon''' as a term retconned/replaced the term '''Alt. Color Pokémon'''. Since you are all now arguing that these are mutually exclusive terms, then that means the term Alt. Color Pokémon was never retconned. I therefore proposed that it would deserve its own page on this wiki, and this article should be rewritten to accomodate for this. --[[User:INTERNETFRIEND|INTERNETFRIEND]] ([[User talk:INTERNETFRIEND|talk]]) 17:43, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | ||