Appendix talk:Metagame terminology

Nicknames for species?

I think Shedinjask may be on the right track as far as that goes... this page needs to be cleaned up anyway... lemme get a list of the nicknames and I'll see, eh? TTEchidna^G_SDS! 23:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

TrickBracer?

Do people still do that? I'd say using Iron Ball or Lagging Tail would be far more effective in the current generation. --Phred 04:05, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

a question

can someone please explain this whole "metagame" thing to me? There seems not to be a Metagame article. 折り紙ガイ 12:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, it would be nice if we had a list of OU UU and NU pokemon. Noname

I agree. I'd like to know what Pokémon are OU, UU, and NU. I swear i saw an article on there before, but i can't remember which one. I really have no idea what Pokémon are UU, NU, and OU, But it'd be nice too see if any of the Pokémon in my main party are Overused or Underused. I know that the Final-forms of the Starters are probably overused...a lot xD Takoto タコト 17:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

List of tiers. Tina^☆♫ 17:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Thank you very much! :D Takoto タコト 18:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

New Strategy

If i manage to come up with a new strategy, can I post it here on this article? JirachiWishmaker0802 14:45 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Since Smogon.com pretty much controls the metagame, if you can prove to them that it works well enough there, and they come up with a cool name for it, then yes. Good luck. (looks at Solrock page). PsychoRobo 19:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Proof?

"Shaymin in its Sky Forme may also see use as a flinchaxor, due to its Serene Grace, high Speed and Special Attack, and the ability to learn Air Slash."

I can't see anything that confirms this. Removing until someone has a reliable source. PsychoRobo 19:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Garchomp now considered Uber

Garchomp has been added to the Uber tiers at Smogon.com so I've added him to the Ubers list.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/uber

Baby G removed it from the list, I just added it back in. Oh, and sign your comments. Satosuke 14:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I removed it because Garchomp is not uber. Garchomp can be 2HKO'd by Donphan's Ice Shard, but Donphan's not uber. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 14:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

So can Salamence now can't it? --^Psychic_Rider^☮ 15:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but nobody ever said Salamence was uber. --Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 15:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Just because it isn't on that list, doesn't mean that it isn't able to be compared to one. --^Psychic_Rider^☮ 15:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Poké Nicknames?

I finished redirecting all the terms to this page. Anyone think it's necessary to redirect the Pokémon nicknames to their respective articles? --ニョロトノ666 00:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Quality standards

Hey, what will be needed to make this article apply to the quality standards of Bulbapedia? - Clarky13

• • See Bulbapedia:Manual of Style JirachiWishmaker0802 01:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Tiers

Definitions for most parts are wrong. These terms stemmed out from Smogon as usage based tiers and I am changing the definitions to reflect that.--Outrage DD 20:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

SMogon Thread regarding Tiers So I'm not saying that Competitive Battlign = Smogon always, but that these terms did originate from that source, and must have the proper definitions.--Outrage DD 20:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Also forgot to add this quote from that thread that will sum this all up "People want to know which Pokemon are good. Now lets think about this: "since we are basing standards on which Pokemon are used in a competitive enviroment (namely, what you would use in a tournament), would someone over use a bad Pokemon?" No. People want to win, and since people like to use the best Pokemon, we have a correlation between usage and power. The problem comes around when people group Pokemon obviously meant for the BL tier in the OU tier and it becomes a meaningless list of what people think is strong"--Outrage DD 20:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Stop

Can whoever keeps editing Garchomp off the Uber list please stop it. Especially since you aren't giving any reasons for removing it. Mr. Black 05:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

EV spreads

I'm editing out any mention of (exact) EV spreads since for the most part they are opinionative. For example, someone mentioned a 126/126 EV spread for Infernape's offenses saying that is the standard. It is not, and its only the standard with those who are inexperienced and believe that Infernape would benefit more from this spread when it really doesn't ( 126 Atk EVs doesn't OHKO a Blissey and 24 EVs gives a good enough shot). Besides, it sounds too much like we're telling people what to use, and people do tailorr EV spreads for their specific needs.--Outrage DD 15:00, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, 126 ATK EVs is enough to OHKO Blissey with Life Orb (any Infernape running 126 / 126 without Life Orb is foolish) and it is the most common Infernape in Wi-Fi Competitive Battling. I'm not saying put it back in there or anything, just pointing that out Mr. Black 10:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)