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== Rumble World == | == Rumble World == | ||
Since the Froakie and Togepi were, in fact, gifts, should their moves be considered event moves in the vein of {{DL|List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V|15th Anniversary Rayquaza}}'s {{m|V-create}} and [[List of | Since the Froakie and Togepi were, in fact, gifts, should their moves be considered event moves in the vein of {{DL|List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V|15th Anniversary Rayquaza}}'s {{m|V-create}} and [[List of event Pokémon with in-game effects#Entei|Shiny Entei]]'s {{m|Flare Blitz}}? - [[User:Coffee|<span style="color:#F85888">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]] 13:51, 22 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
:The main difference is that the event Pokémon were distributed for the main games with the move in question. As for the Gift Froakie and Togepi, it's best if we don't list their illegal moves as event moves; that could create confusion. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 22:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC) | :The main difference is that the event Pokémon were distributed for the main games with the move in question. As for the Gift Froakie and Togepi, it's best if we don't list their illegal moves as event moves; that could create confusion. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 22:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
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Although Chansey can in RBY, there's no way for Blissey to have it in XD. I'd add it myself, but I'm afraid of breaking the table. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | Although Chansey can in RBY, there's no way for Blissey to have it in XD. I'd add it myself, but I'm afraid of breaking the table. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
Okay, so I thought that area was just gray because it was highlighting the change. I was wrong. I'll try to fix that now. Also, I tried to upload this image, but it wouldn't let me. [http://i.imgur.com/6DuedHN.png] [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:10, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | :Okay, so I thought that area was just gray because it was highlighting the change. I was wrong. I'll try to fix that now. Also, I tried to upload this image, but it wouldn't let me. [http://i.imgur.com/6DuedHN.png] [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:10, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
Never mind; Cold beat me to it. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:13, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | ::Never mind; Cold beat me to it. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:13, 28 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
== Section naming == | == Section naming == | ||
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::For the difference, well, if it's "core games" as in "core series", Bandana Guy Noxy's Lotad, for example, is in line with the second reading from above but not the first one. | ::For the difference, well, if it's "core games" as in "core series", Bandana Guy Noxy's Lotad, for example, is in line with the second reading from above but not the first one. | ||
::I just didn't intend "single moves" to be "at most one per poke" necessarily, so that's my solution :P I can't think of anything else, and I wouldn't have mentioned it if I wasn't writing here anyway. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | ::I just didn't intend "single moves" to be "at most one per poke" necessarily, so that's my solution :P I can't think of anything else, and I wouldn't have mentioned it if I wasn't writing here anyway. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | ||
:::Colo/XD/etc, I think I'm just going to cop out by saying, obviously they're in there (and meant to be), so take ''that'' interpretation. If I weren't a lazy sort most of the time, I might try to fix the section title to explicitly account for both; but at the same time, trying to do anything like that gets clunky too. Trade-offs. =P [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::Ok, imma stop throwing interpretations at you, I just wanted you (or anyone) to at least trade off against known info. (Also, one of the wisest trade-offs of all time. All time.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:21, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Generation I exclusive TM's and moves for Pokemon that can't use them elsewhere == | |||
Hi. I wanted to know if there was a list anywhere of '''Pokemon moves that can only be taught in generation I via TM that cannot be taught in any other generation or game''' since Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow have now been re-released and can be transferred via Pokemon Box. I want to use all my Pokemon Red TM's on Pokemon that can no longer use the moves anywhere else, like Skull Bash on Pikachu and Teleport on Mewtwo. Is there anywhere on this site I can find those out in one place? Is there a way to add that onto this page? Thank you. | |||
[[User:Mcheetah|Mcheetah]] ([[User talk:Mcheetah|talk]]) 01:50, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Just look at the {{m|Reflect}} page (a lot of Pokemon only get it in gen 1 for some reason), and then [[TM#List of TMs]]. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 02:18, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::That's far too specific to have a single page on, just go to the individual Pokémon and move pages to find them.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:17, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Shell Smash Kommo-o == | |||
It is a fairly notorious oddity in the Battle Tree, so it should be listed. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 07:58, 5 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
Similarly, apparently there was a Shuckle with Stockpile who also got fixed with the patch. [https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Sun_and_Moon#Version_Differences] [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 18:06, 13 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Smash Bros. Pikachu and Mewtwo == | |||
The section about Pikachu and Mewtwo in Smash should probably be removed or altered seeing as the gen 1 rereleases mean that Skull Bash Pikachu and Teleport Mewtwo are once again possible in the main games. | |||
== Related to the move reminder == | |||
Since the move reminder can teach pokemon any level up move at any level, shouldn't there be a note at the beginning of the moves known at an early level section that says something like: "Unless specified otherwise, all of the errors listed are fixed in Generation VII due to the move learner being able to teach moves the Pokémon would learn at higher levels." [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 01:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
:I think the current method of noting it individually for each case is better, personally. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:41, 9 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
== PI Carlos's Goldeen == | |||
Goldeen can know horn drill in Generation 4 (from breeding) regardless of its level, so why is PI Carlos's Goldeen on this page? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:42, 7 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Camper Branden of Route 111 == | |||
A user added a trivium to the [[Hoenn Route 111]] page that Camper Branden's Nuzleaf has Earthquake. I haven't confirmed it so I don't want to add it myself, but just noting it here so that someone can confirm and add it here. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:23, 29 July 2017 (UTC)A | |||
==Move== | |||
It is not known if these movesets are errors or simply the developers not intending consistency. I think it should be moved to [[Impossible NPC movesets]], or if this is confusing, then something on that line. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 02:59, 16 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
== For Pokemon Quest, do I need to include the evolved forms too? == | |||
What I mean is, in this example, Caterpie can have Take Down in Quest. If I evolve it into Metapod, it becomes a Metapod with Take Down. Should I include Metapod too? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:35, 3 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
:No, since the Metapod didn't ''learn'' it. That, and I think it would be common sense to think that if its pre-evolution can learn the move, its evolutions can also use it (if the move is not replaced).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:59, 3 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
==Squirtle== | |||
https://old.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/8pvekb/gamefreak_you_never_cease_to_amaze_me/ | |||
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold-version/54403488 [[User:Muur1234|Muur1234]] ([[User talk:Muur1234|talk]]) 23:04, 9 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
:Added this to the page, thank you. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 23:20, 9 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
::It doesn't make sense under "Unobtainable until a later game in the generation". That means that it would be able to get Curse in gen 4 but it doesn't get it till gen 7? shouldn't it be under "Unobtainable for the generation"? cuz you can't have a Squritle with Curse in gen 4 {{unsigned|Muur1234}} | |||
:::Sorry about that, moved it. Also, please make sure to sign your talk page comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> Thank you. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 23:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Should we include Pikachu Libre w/ Volt Tackle? (Smash) == | |||
Pikachu Libre's going to be a palette swap in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, with its Final Smash as Volt Tackle. Should we include it in the list? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:32, 19 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Acrobatics Thundurus == | |||
In the recently released promo video about Tornadus and Thundurus, Thundurus is shown using Acrobatics at 1:42, but it can't learn it. Should I add it to Errors in Promotional Material? | |||
[[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 19:59, 30 June 2018 (UTC) | |||
==Warp Lets Go== | |||
https://old.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/9zqgpa/i_found_an_interesting_illegal_move_combo_by_the/ [[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 20:27, 23 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
==Dribur hydro pump sword shield== | |||
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1255034405489434629 [[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 01:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Battle e Error == | |||
I noticed that within the Battle e Series 1 Iron Defense Card Pack, Lady Hillary's Houndoom has Trick, which is illegal. I don't know if it counts since it was for the e-Reader, but the BW Downloadable Tournament was added to the list, so maybe? Just double check if Houndoom can't get Trick (the Trick page says it can't), and put it in (I'm having trouble with that). Maybe also check the other e-Reader pages to see if there are any more errors. [[User:Quzergirl|Quzergirl]] ([[User talk:Quzergirl|talk]]) 21:29, 11 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Morimonto's Flareon in BDSP has Superpower. Error? == | |||
Morimonto's Flareon in BDSP has Superpower, but it can't learn it without a transfer, which is currently impossible. Does this count as an error? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:59, 26 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
:This seems like a fairly similar case to Lysandre's Gyarados's Iron Head, which is already noted on the page. I would suggest including it in the "Unobtainable until a later game in the generation" section (although perhaps that section could be renamed to be more precise, like "Unobtainable at the game's release"). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:59, 27 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Return in BDSP Trailer == | |||
In the BDSP trailer, you can see one of the contest competitors using a Pikachu with Return, even though return was removed in Gen 8 and can't be used. https://youtu.be/Ds-q9mQXDdY?t=442 Should this be added under promotional materials or unusable moves? [[User:19secondrespawntimes|19secondrespawntimes]] ([[User talk:19secondrespawntimes|talk]]) 21:49, 14 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
* Because the error doesn't exist in the game itself, it would go in the promotional materials section. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 14:52, 15 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Text redundancy == | |||
Per [[bmgf:suggestions-ideas-and-problems.39604/post-7423113|this forum post]], we should remove redundant text like "this Pokémon cannot legitimately learn that move". What do you think? --<span style="font-family:Corbel,sans-serif">'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|<span style="color:#4ed">Bfdi</span>]][[User talk:Bfdifan2006|<span style="color:#3f3">fan</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|<span style="color:#ea4">2006</span>]]'''''</span> 16:50, 15 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
:I'll cut down on some of the redundancy. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 00:29, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Illegal Gengar == | |||
Someone in Pocket Monsters Stadium has a Gengar with Hydro Pump and Transform, though it can't learn these move legally. [[User:TogekissFan4956|TogekissFan4956]] ([[User talk:TogekissFan4956|talk]]) 15:06, 4 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Rotom == | |||
In Sun and Moon, there was a Rotom Fan that knew Blizzard and A Rotom Frost that knew Air Slash. They were fixed in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, but I feel like this should be included. | |||
[[User:Power-Point Panpour|Power-Point Panpour]] ([[User talk:Power-Point Panpour|talk]]) 17:09, 29 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
* Do you know exactly where they were? Were they random trainers or Battle Tree or what? -- [[User:Guiltysparkzz|Guiltysparkzz]] ([[User talk:Guiltysparkzz|talk]]) 17:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
**They were Battle Tree Pokémon. I believe you can find them if you go to the list of Battle Tree Pokémon; https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Battle_Tree_Pok%C3%A9mon | |||
**Also even while some other Pokémon in the Battle Tree/Royal Dome had illegal moves, like the Shell Smash Kommo-o, those ones got patched in updates for Sun & Moon. But they didn't fix this one until the games got remade. -- [[User:Power-Point Panpour|Power-Point Panpour]] ([[User talk:Power-Point Panpour|talk]]) 17:57, 29 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
*** Added it, thanks for the tip! --[[User:Guiltysparkzz|Guiltysparkzz]] ([[User talk:Guiltysparkzz|talk]]) 18:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC) | |||