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{{Forme info|487{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0||O}}.png|Ghost|Dragon|[[Form differences#Giratina|Giratina's Formes]]|Giratina as though it were in the {{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|[[Pokémon world]]|[[Distortion World]] or holding a {{DL|Type-enhancing item|Griseous Orb}}}}, therefore being in its {{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|Altered|Origin}} Forme|the artwork shown in the infobox, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the Pokéathlon stats entry which is unhidden, and the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden|hour}}
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== Error? ==
== Error? ==
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== Devil? ==
== Devil? ==


How is giratina the devil of poke'mon?  It just lives on an opposite side of the world.  Plus I don't think the developers are aware of the body part thing.  It is also irrelevant to the subject.--[[user:arceus fan|arceus fan]] [[image:ArceusDP.png|35px]] 21:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
How is giratina the devil of poke'mon?  It just lives on an opposite side of the world.  Plus I don't think the developers are aware of the body part thing.  It is also irrelevant to the subject.--[[user:arceus fan|arceus fan]] 21:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
: I agree.  If no one objects, I will take it out now.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 06:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
: I agree.  If no one objects, I will take it out now.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 06:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:: Whoever changed it back, don't do it again.  Giratina is NOT the Devil Pokemon.  Get over it.  --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 17:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:: Whoever changed it back, don't do it again.  Giratina is NOT the Devil Pokemon.  Get over it.  --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 17:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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== Fourth lake of Sinnoh ==
== Fourth lake of Sinnoh ==


Can we be so sure that Giratina is really part of the [[Dragon trio]]? It makes sense if you think everything through, but I find it interesting that Giratina is found in a cave near the "fourth lake of Sinnoh". Can it be assumed that Giratina has ''some'' association with the [[Lake trio]], or is that simply too much of a stretch? // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|<span style="color:#00A550">'''''Szayel</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Aporro</span><span style="color:#FF69B4">Granz'''''</span>]][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 23:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Can we be so sure that Giratina is really part of the [[Creation trio|Dragon trio]]? It makes sense if you think everything through, but I find it interesting that Giratina is found in a cave near the "fourth lake of Sinnoh". Can it be assumed that Giratina has ''some'' association with the [[Lake trio]], or is that simply too much of a stretch? // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|<span style="color:#00A550">'''''Szayel</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Aporro</span><span style="color:#FF69B4">Granz'''''</span>] 23:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:Arceus created Dialga/Palkia ''and'' the lake trio.  It's not hard to see the link there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 23:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:Arceus created Dialga/Palkia ''and'' the lake trio.  It's not hard to see the link there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 23:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
also they all have equal base stats just in a different order and the footprints all resemble crowns and it stars in a game along with them and they all rule over different universal planes time, space, and the reverse world but the reverse world could be a reality made by palkia so until they give the official word nobody knows {{unsigned|Tannerbro}}
also they all have equal base stats just in a different order and the footprints all resemble crowns and it stars in a game along with them and they all rule over different universal planes time, space, and the reverse world but the reverse world could be a reality made by palkia so until they give the official word nobody knows {{unsigned|Tannerbro}}
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== H/W eight ==
== H/W eight ==


The Height and Weight of Giratina's two forms are different. Should we place both of the weights and heights in the article (or in List of Articles by Weight or List of Articles by Height)?<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 18:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
The Height and Weight of Giratina's two forms are different. Should we place both of the weights and heights in the article (or in List of Articles by Weight or List of Articles by Height)?<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 18:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think we should put somthing in like this,
:I think we should put somthing in like this,
  Origin Form Height: Blah
  Origin Form Height: Blah
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I know we've had this conversation already on the Gold/Silver remakes talk page, but does anyone KNOW for certain that Nintendo trademarked the name Pokémon Opal?  As far as I know, nobody's had any luck confirming the DuskGold/DawnSilver trademarks, so how do we know this one is for real, too? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 07:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I know we've had this conversation already on the Gold/Silver remakes talk page, but does anyone KNOW for certain that Nintendo trademarked the name Pokémon Opal?  As far as I know, nobody's had any luck confirming the DuskGold/DawnSilver trademarks, so how do we know this one is for real, too? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 07:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:http://www.pokemonopal.com proves this pretty well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:http://www.pokemonopal.com proves this pretty well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely hard to argue with that.  Thanks.  [[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely hard to argue with that.  Thanks.  [[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Couldn't someone have just bought the domain name and have it redirect to Nintendo?--[[User:Ocean2292|Ocean2292]] 22:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Couldn't someone have just bought the domain name and have it redirect to Nintendo?--[[User:Ocean2292|Ocean2292]] 22:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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I ask you, does the following look like the statement is true? the only thing that matches up are the red (blue) bands and wing-horns.
I ask you, does the following look like the statement is true? the only thing that matches up are the red (blue) bands and wing-horns.
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[[{{ns:6}}:Not-reverse-colors.PNG|Shiny Giratina is not a negative]]--[[User:Xparasite9|Xparasite9]] 03:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
--[[User:Xparasite9|Xparasite9]] 03:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:I think what was really meant was "nearly opposite in color", regular has gold, shiny has silver, regular has silver, shiny has gold, regular has red, shiny has blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:I think what was really meant was "nearly opposite in color", regular has gold, shiny has silver, regular has silver, shiny has gold, regular has red, shiny has blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


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== Animated sprite? ==
== Animated sprite? ==


Well, I don't remember where, but... Is it ok if we update the sprites? I mean because someone said that Crystal and Emerald have their own set of animated sprites, and PNG animations doesn't look bad:<br>[[Image:MGiratina.png]]<br>'''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 04:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, I don't remember where, but... Is it ok if we update the sprites? I mean because someone said that Crystal and Emerald have their own set of animated sprites, and PNG animations doesn't look bad:<br><br>'''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 04:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


== Origin Forme trigger ==
== Origin Forme trigger ==
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== Rebattleing Giratina ==
== Rebattleing Giratina ==
According to several accounts and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-E_Za5-C4I this video], Giratina can be rebattled in [[Turnback Cave]] if it is [[KO]]'d in the [[Distortion World]]. I am going to add this information to accable pages. If there are any objections...? - '''[[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#{{cute color}}">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]]'''--- 21:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
According to several accounts and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-E_Za5-C4I this video], Giratina can be rebattled in [[Turnback Cave]] if it is [[KO]]'d in the [[Distortion World]]. I am going to add this information to accable pages. If there are any objections...? - '''[[User:Coffee|<span style="color:#{{cute color}}">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]]'''--- 21:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:That might already be on another page, but add it if you want. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 00:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
:That might already be on another page, but add it if you want. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 00:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
::On a similar note, it is possible that the Giratina in [[Turnback Cave]] is not the same as the one in the [[Distortion World]].  The second Giratina does not have the same nature or IVs as the first one.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 16:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::On a similar note, it is possible that the Giratina in [[Turnback Cave]] is not the same as the one in the [[Distortion World]].  The second Giratina does not have the same nature or IVs as the first one.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 16:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
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== Different wings ==
== Different wings ==
[[Image:487.png]] [[Image:DP Ani Giratina.gif]]
[[Image:487.png]]  
Look at this. Left is the platinum giratina and right the d/p. Those wings are different and there has never been an explanation for this. So then why isn't this trivia? [[User:Mijzelffan|Mijzelffan]] 20:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Look at this. Left is the platinum giratina and right the d/p. Those wings are different and there has never been an explanation for this. So then why isn't this trivia? [[User:Mijzelffan|Mijzelffan]] 20:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Because. It's only a sprite update. And the Platinum page talks about sprite updates for all Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:51, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Because. It's only a sprite update. And the Platinum page talks about sprite updates for all Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:51, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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Also, this talk page seriously needs to be archived; it's 78 kb long.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 09:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, this talk page seriously needs to be archived; it's 78 kb long.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 09:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, the image had been deleted. I've changed it to another, similar image that was on the archives. As for archiving, I'm not sure when it is done for article talk pages, but 78kB isn't ''that'' big. A lot of people, TTE included, archive their pages once they reach 100kB. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 10:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)