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==Kenny== | |||
Shouldn't [[Kenny (coordinator)|Kenny]] be placed onder rivals? (AS Dawn's Rival) --[[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] | Shouldn't [[Kenny (coordinator)|Kenny]] be placed onder rivals? (AS Dawn's Rival) --[[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]] | ||
:NO! He has only one appearance so far. Why are people treating him as Dawn's main rival. Even Nando is way better than this random-looking teen. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | :NO! He has only one appearance so far. Why are people treating him as Dawn's main rival. Even Nando is way better than this random-looking teen. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Saturn? == | == Saturn? == | ||
Is it okay to put Saturn under 'Antagonists'? Or is it to soon? -- | Is it okay to put Saturn under 'Antagonists'? Or is it to soon? --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''''''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 08:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Third appearance, for sure. I'm wondering, though, if we should put the four teams on the template... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span> | :Third appearance, for sure. I'm wondering, though, if we should put the four teams on the template... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 10:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
::It would be less crowded that way. Of course, Jessie and James should still be seperate from TR. -- | ::It would be less crowded that way. Of course, Jessie and James should still be seperate from TR. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''''''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 10:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Come to think of it, we saw the Aqua/Magma Admins more than the leaders. | :::Come to think of it, we saw the Aqua/Magma Admins more than the leaders. | ||
:::As for Team Rocket, on the other hand, there's probably a case for leaving Butch, Cassidy and Giovanni on there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 18:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC) | :::As for Team Rocket, on the other hand, there's probably a case for leaving Butch, Cassidy and Giovanni on there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 18:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== Should he? == | == Should he? == | ||
Should Reiji be a supporting character?<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"> | Should Reiji be a supporting character?<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 03:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:He's not quite up to this template's standards yet. If we see him after Veilstone, he can be in it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 03:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC) | :He's not quite up to this template's standards yet. If we see him after Veilstone, he can be in it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 03:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:I see. Okay.<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"> | :I see. Okay.<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 03:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Getting a bit big? == | == Getting a bit big? == | ||
I only say this since we get more and more characters every twenty or so episodes. Should it split, or should it stay intact as-is until the end of DP, where we'd reevaluate? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna | I only say this since we get more and more characters every twenty or so episodes. Should it split, or should it stay intact as-is until the end of DP, where we'd reevaluate? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Well I think that it's fine for now, but if we split it, split them into the current 4 sections on the template. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 13:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | :Well I think that it's fine for now, but if we split it, split them into the current 4 sections on the template. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 13:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Should we add him? He did appear in two episodes and made cameos in two movies. And after all, he is Barry's father. --<font color="#990000" face="DFKaiSB">'''神智の</font>[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E" face="DFKaiSB">超龍</font>]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 03:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC) | Should we add him? He did appear in two episodes and made cameos in two movies. And after all, he is Barry's father. --<font color="#990000" face="DFKaiSB">'''神智の</font>[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E" face="DFKaiSB">超龍</font>]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 03:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
:I'd say he's covered by [[Frontier Brain]]s. Even so, it is only two episodes, and cameos don't really count. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Improvement? == | == Improvement? == | ||
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—'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:54, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:54, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Looking good but kind of too much yellowish (supporting characters, title bar and background, all are yellow which is kind of... you know.) <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 09:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | :Looking good but kind of too much yellowish (supporting characters, title bar and background, all are yellow which is kind of... you know.) <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 09:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | ||
::I think it's perfect. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 10:00, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't like letting stuff just line wrap where it wants to because you end up with raw • on the ends of the lines. Otherwise, it's great. Thing is, the text in other templates in that style is usually centered rather than left aligned. I previewed it with centered text, and I think it would look a bit better than its current design if you regulated the line wrapping. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::I like this but agree with SM. Couldn't we just use line breaks so that wouldn't happen? Or would that not work very well? The centered text is also a good idea. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 22:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
Don't worry, the yellow is a variable setting so we can change the color of the template depending on the theme of the page. I left it unwrapped so that it would all appear the same on smaller screens and bigger screens alike, but I guess we can center and wrap it. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 04:00, 6 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Rivals == | |||
I don't think Harrison, Tyson, or Solidad belong in the rivals section. They seem more like supporting characters to me, as unlike actual rivals like Gary ect, they only appeared in an arc of episodes (excluding minor cameos). [[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#FFFFFF; background-color:#6890F0">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span>[[Latios (Pokémon)|<span style="color:red; background-color:#6890F0"> Δ ]]</span> 18:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Placing of TRT == | |||
Being the characteristics between antagonist and rival, should Team Rocket Trio being placed as a single Team Rocket Trio list? {{u|KyleRGiggs}} 16:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
:They're individual characters, I think they should be separate. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 05:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Montgomery == | |||
Shouldn't [[Montgomery]] be in the rivals section? His article does state he is a rival of Stephan. And what about [[Kotetsu]]? (The only reason I'm asking this here is to avoid getting reverted.) [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ101]] ([[User talk:Satoshi101|talk]]) 20:21, 19 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Clemont's Dedenne == | |||
Can we add Clemont's Dedenne into the protagonist section of the template since it's a walking Pokémon and Bonnie takes care of it. [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 02:47, 4 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Re-evaluating Goh's Cinderace == | |||
As of JN082, Goh's Grookey has still not failed to appear in a single episode since its debut and has appeared in 24 episodes straight (the exact same amount of episodes that Scorbunny/Raboot had appeared in prior to it being added as a main character). I don't think that Grookey should be added as a main character right now, but I do think it's worth reconsidering Cinderace's position. | |||
While it did appear in every episode since its debut while it was still a Scorbunny/Raboot, its appearances have gone down by a noticeable amount after evolving into Cinderace. | |||
Excluding flashback/fantasy/image-only appearances and only counting episodes starting with its debut back in JN004, Cinderace has appeared in roughly 80% of episodes, which is significantly below all other Pokémon that were considered main characters (the lowest is Piplup at roughly 92% for DP). [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 17:04, 2 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
== new template == | |||
With the arrival of the new anime, wouldn't it be more productive to create a new one to add the new characters?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 14:51, 10 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Chloe == | |||
Please add her as a main character. She deserved it more than Grookey, and the video below proves that she's seen as aan equal to Ash's previous companions. | |||
https://youtu.be/ZccKUMgLRE8 --[[User:Marshiyanmisuta|Marshiyanmisuta]] ([[User talk:Marshiyanmisuta|talk]]) 21:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Chloe being grouped up with Ash's friends is nothing new, and Grookey has literally appeared more than she has. | |||
:She was absent from over 50% of the Pocket Monsters arc of Journeys, not even counting ATBAPM. Additionally, she was never listed on the site as a main character either. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Desperately needs a cleanup == | |||
This template is the messiest thing on this site. The Horizons characters shouldn't be on here, they have nothing to do with the original series (as of now) and they're thrown into a cluttered list of characters that have nothing to do with them. Imo, make a new template for Horizons. It might even be worth to make new templates for each series, but the Horizons one should definitely be a priority. Here's a quick mock-up for a Horizons characters template, if it helps: | |||
{| align="center" class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #{{{{{1|scarlet}}} color dark}}; background: #{{{{{1|scarlet}}} color}};" | |||
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! colspan="3" class="roundy" style="background: #{{{{{1|violet}}} color light}};" | {{color2|000|List of Pokémon Horizons characters|Pokémon Horizons characters}} | |||
|- align="center" | |||
| | |||
{| align="center" class="roundy" style="background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{{{{1|scarlet}}} color dark}};" | |||
|- align="center" | |||
! class="roundyleft" style="background:#{{green color light}}; border:1px solid #{{green color dark}}; font-size: 90%; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:5px" width="70px" | {{color|{{green color dark}}|Protagonists}} | |||
| class="roundyright" style="border:1px solid #{{green color dark}}; background:#FFFFFF; font-size: 90%; padding-left:15px; padding-right:15px" align="left" | [[Liko]] • [[Roy]] | |||
|- align="center" | |||
! class="roundyleft" style="background:#{{electric color light}}; border:1px solid #{{electric color dark}}; font-size: 90%; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:5px" width="70px" | {{color2|{{electric color dark}}|Rising Volt Tacklers}} | |||
| class="roundyright" style="border:1px solid #{{electric color dark}}; background:#FFFFFF; font-size: 90%; padding-left:15px; padding-right:15px" align="left" | [[Friede]] • [[Orla]] • [[Murdock]] • [[Mollie]] • [[Ludlow]] | |||
|- align="center" | |||
! class="roundyleft" style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; border:1px solid #{{ghost color dark}}; font-size: 90%; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:5px" width="70px" | {{color2|{{ghost color dark}}|Explorers}} | |||
| class="roundyright" style="border:1px solid #{{ghost color dark}}; background:#FFFFFF; font-size: 90%; padding-left:15px; padding-right:15px" align="left" | [[Amethio]] • [[Zir]] • [[Conia]] | |||
|- align="center" | |||
! class="roundyleft" style="background:#{{blue color light}}; border:1px solid #{{blue color dark}}; font-size: 90%; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:5px" width="70px" | {{color|{{blue color dark}}|Supporting cast}} | |||
| class="roundyright" style="border:1px solid #{{blue color dark}}; background:#FFFFFF; font-size: 90%; padding-left:15px; padding-right:15px" align="left" | [[Nidothing]] • [[Ann]] | |||
|} | |||
|} | |||
[[User:Lemmay|Lemmay]] ([[User talk:Lemmay|talk]]) 20:55, 15 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I'm all for a completely separate animecharacters template for Horizon characters. The current template could also do with a more organized layout or a template for each series.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 10:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
::One thing in particular that always bothered me was the antagonists section, especially with how the Team Rocket trio (and Wobbuffet) were grouped together with the other antagonists. Even if they were antagonists, they were also main characters as well, so I feel like the template should reflect this in ''some'' manner and not just lump them together with everyone else. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::As for that, Jamal, I think it shouldn't change much in the new season of the anime. The new Trio (Amethio, Zir and Cona) must be main characters of this season too, and I start to think that Friede must also have this role in Horizons. | |||
:::There's probably a lot that will have to be worked on in the next few days, especially when the plot of the new anime unfolds.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 17:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC) | |||