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Hello. I like to request making a page for the actor, [[Ryan Reynolds]]. I have a picture for him and details to add. [[User:MasterFrostyShake|MasterFrostyShake]] ([[User talk:MasterFrostyShake|talk]]) 06:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello. I like to request making a page for the actor, [[Ryan Reynolds]]. I have a picture for him and details to add. [[User:MasterFrostyShake|MasterFrostyShake]] ([[User talk:MasterFrostyShake|talk]]) 06:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:Force Fire is not an active [[staff]] member, but to answer your question, a [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:PikaTepig999/Ryan_Reynolds user draft] is in progress. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#00d1bc">'''Land'''</span>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#006699"><small>'''fish7'''</small></span>]] 11:55, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:Force Fire is not an active [[staff]] member, but to answer your question, a [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:PikaTepig999/Ryan_Reynolds user draft] is in progress. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#00d1bc">'''Land'''</span>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#006699"><small>'''fish7'''</small></span>]] 11:55, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
::Oh cool, thank you. [[User:MasterFrostyShake|MasterFrostyShake]] ([[User talk:MasterFrostyShake|talk]]) 17:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


==Image Tables==
==Image Tables==
Please do not change the hard edge borders on square or rectangular images to '''roundy,''' as it makes the images clip outside the table.--[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 16:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Please do not change the hard edge borders on square or rectangular images to '''roundy,''' as it makes the images clip outside the table.--[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 16:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:[https://i.imgur.com/D5iJ1gZ.png This ain't it, tho]. This is the default zoom that presumably everyone uses.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 17:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:[https://i.imgur.com/D5iJ1gZ.png This ain't it, tho]. This is the default zoom that presumably everyone uses.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 17:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
::There is a line of text (overflow:hidden) which allows the clipping corners to be hidden if necessary. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:10, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Why would you flat revert with the message '''"<nowiki>https://i.imgur.com/D5iJ1gZ.png This ain't sexy</nowiki>"''' when this isn't even how it looks on all monitors? On a 1080p monitor, it takes '''exactly''' a 125% zoom to achieve this. On a 1440p monitor it takes '''exactly''' 175% zoom to replicate this. I don't understand why you would zoom in, or resize your browser window to 1899x999 to showcase a screenshot where it looks broken, as literally every page on the site with a design made for a monitor after 2010 would be broken under that degree of scrutiny. This is not ''"the default zoom that presumably everyone uses''", this is just false. {{unsigned|Lewtwo}}
::::[https://i.imgur.com/IcHK8n7.png Sure]. Not everyone has high quality, wide monitors like you and don't assume everyone has high quality, wide monitors like you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 17:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
::::: I don't have a "high quality, wide monitor" this is 1920x1080, from 2016, eight years ago. It displays fine on monitors that we tested from 2012. This is a terrible frame of reference that is outright misleading as "the default" and mischaracterizing my setup as being wide alongside your edit message is just ??? Also, why not just put it under a div wrapped scrollbar instead of removing images and making them needlessly tiny, as you have been told prior to your hiatus? --[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 18:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::: [https://i.imgur.com/eqWYLrQ.png Mhm]. 2020 too. Also, moving around images or resizing them isn't "removing" them. They're still on the page. Don't be overdramatic.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 18:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::: Could you explain how you got a 1080p monitor to have the appearance of one with a 125% Zoom, or that of a 1366px monitor? To clarify, you are removing images- Galleries are good for frames of reference between related images in close proximity, so readers can compare. Images in sections like the biology are good for providing context to the words next to them. Therefore, there is purpose for both of them to exist on the page in that section. --[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 18:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::: That's just the default when I bought the device, I don't bother with that. Why would anyone not that adept with computers.
:::::::: [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Iono&diff=3898118&oldid=3898098]] [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Iono&diff=3898177&oldid=3898141]] [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Silver_(game)&curid=4875&diff=3898129&oldid=3898120]] [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Silver_(game)&curid=4875&diff=3898134&oldid=3898129]]. I dunno man, all the image appear to be the same in all revisions. No "removal" happening captain.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 18:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Iono&oldid=3898098 you can literally click this, or see the current revision of the page, to see the SV Iono art gone from the Gallery table. --[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 18:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: Ah, collateral damage. Well, didn't know that was removed because I didn't remove it. I get where Finnish is coming from, but I don't mind either way whether we show the infobox image twice.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 18:35, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::: Tiddlywinks said over on Discord that images that are already in use on one part of the page, such as the info box, do not need to be in the gallery. No need to repeat the same thing twice, similar to how there's no need for link repetition in the same page section. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::: And a variety of people disagreed with his assertion. Just because one staff member believes in something doesn't mean that it should be treated as gospel throughout the site, especially being staff that are known for causing similar issues in the past --[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 20:55, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
== Code of Conduct and staff expectations ==
It has come to the attention of Senior staff that you have had several recent instances of unacceptable behavior when interacting with contributors.
* A disrespectful [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?diff=3911386 edit summary] when modifying another editor's contribution, and
* Insulting, rude language [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?diff=3898198 when discussing another user's edits]
It is the expectation that all contributors—both staff and users—uphold the Bulbapedia {{bp|code of conduct}}, and these two instances of your behavior do not meet those expectations. As stated in the Bulbapedia code of conduct, ''"Bulbapedia should be a welcoming and open environment"''. Behavior like calling another user "overdramatic", or the disrespectful tone you used in the edit summary mentioned above, violates this standard by creating an unwelcoming environment for other users, especially coming from someone in a staff position. While in a staff position, you are expected to uphold the [[Bulbapedia:Values]] by fostering a safe and inclusive place for Pokémon fans to impact Bulbagarden, and in our case, Bulbapedia. The behaviors you exemplified this month in the above interactions, unfortunately, do not meet the mark. If you are finding it difficult to interact with users in a respectful way, you are always welcome to take a break, contact another {{bp|staff}} member for assistance during a dispute, or reach out to a member of the {{bp|Editorial Board}} for advice on how to improve. I recommend reading over the [[Bulbapedia:Code of conduct]] once again to familiarize yourself with the rules. If we do not see an improvement in your behavior, you can expect to receive consequences up to and including a block from participating on the wiki.
If you have any questions, you can reach out to myself or a member of the {{bp|Bulbagarden Executive Staff}}. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 14:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
== Everything is black and white in this site. ==
Why is everything in this site black and white? [[User:Kevin128|Kevin128]] ([[User talk:Kevin128|talk]]) 21:35, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:It's this year's April Fools' gag. It'll pass soon. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
== Reminding users of policies ==
When you send users reminders of policies, it's important to actually link the specific policy you're referring to, and ideally quote the relevant section from it. If you just state that things are policy without referring to the specific policy page, you risk mixing your own opinions and interpretations into the content of the policy. More generally, writing declarative messages about policies without linking to them gives the impression that you are a Bulbapedia staff member; while I recognize that you may be used to this style of writing from your time as a Bulbapedia staff member, now that you have stepped away from that role, it's important not to give the impression that you still are.
For example, in the case of [[User talk:KaijuHazard#Copyright characters|this message]] you left KaijuHazard, the appropriate policy is the {{bp|speculation policy}}, and the relevant text is "''Unsourced character or Pokémon origins should remain generic in scope and avoid explicit comparisons to specific outside characters or franchises. Particularly distinct cases are occasionally permitted through staff approval.''" I should note that this policy is not related to copyright law (in contrast to the message you left for KaijuHazard)—referencing the specific policy can also help refresh you own memory on the policy in question (it may even have changed since you last reviewed it), so should hopefully prevent accidentally confusing users by misstating the current policy.
I understand that editing the wiki as a non-staff member after being a staff member for so long can be cause it to be difficult to break old habits. Feel free to reach out to me or anyone else on staff you have any questions or need any help in this regard. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)