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The area originally appeared in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, but is only legitimately accessible in the remakes, [[Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl]]. It is located above the [[Spear Pillar]], and can be reached after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] and obtaining the [[National Pokédex]] by returning to the Spear Pillar with the [[Azure Flute]]. In [[Generation IV]], the Azure Flute was an [[event item]] that was never distributed, but it can be obtained through regular gameplay in [[Generation VIII]].
The area originally appeared in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, but is only legitimately accessible in the remakes, [[Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl]]. It is located above the [[Spear Pillar]], and can be reached after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] and obtaining the [[National Pokédex]] by returning to the Spear Pillar with the [[Azure Flute]]. In [[Generation IV]], the Azure Flute was an [[event item]] that was never distributed, but it can be obtained through regular gameplay in [[Generation VIII]].


In [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], the Hall of Origin can be accessed during and after [[Task#Missions|Mission]] 27: "The Deified Pokémon". It is not labeled as the Hall of Origin in this game, and is instead treated as part of the [[Temple of Sinnoh]].
In [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], the Hall of Origin is not labeled as such, and is instead treated as part of the [[Temple of Sinnoh]].


==In the core series==
==In the core series==
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===Generation VIII===
===Generation VIII===
[[File:Hall of Origin BDSP.png|thumb|250px|Hall of Origin in {{pkmn|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}}]]
In [[Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl]], the location can be visited legitimately. To obtain the Azure Flute, the player must possess [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]] [[Save data bonus|save data]] with all the {{DL|Task|Missions}} completed, update the game to Version 1.3.0 or later, and be registered into the [[Hall of Fame]]. Once these conditions have been fulfilled, the Azure Flute will appear in the [[Player's house|player's room]] in [[Twinleaf Town]]. After the player catches Dialga or Palkia, and also obtains the [[National Pokédex]], they can play the flute at the Spear Pillar to access the Hall of Origin.
In [[Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl]], the location can be visited legitimately. To obtain the Azure Flute, the player must possess [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]] [[Save data bonus|save data]] with all the {{DL|Task|Missions}} completed, update the game to Version 1.3.0 or later, and be registered into the [[Hall of Fame]]. Once these conditions have been fulfilled, the Azure Flute will appear in the [[Player's house|player's room]] in [[Twinleaf Town]]. After the player catches Dialga or Palkia, and also obtains the [[National Pokédex]], they can play the flute at the Spear Pillar to access the Hall of Origin.


In [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], the Hall of Origin can also be accessed legitimately. After defeating [[Volo]] and {{p|Giratina}} in Mission 26: "Seeking the Remaining Plates", the player will obtain the final [[Plate]] as well as the Azure Flute. The player then has the opportunity to play the Azure Flute on the [[Temple of Sinnoh]]'s dais at any time. However, the stairs to the Hall of Origin will not appear until the player has caught every non-Mythical Pokémon in [[Hisui]]. The player will also receive a message from Arceus on the [[Arc Phone]] if they attempt to do so, repeating the message, "Seek out all Pokémon."
In [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], after defeating [[Volo]] and {{p|Giratina}} in Mission 26: "Seeking the Remaining Plates", the player will obtain the final [[Plate]] as well as the Azure Flute. The player then has the opportunity to play the Azure Flute on the [[Temple of Sinnoh]]'s dais at any time. However, the stairs to the Hall of Origin will not appear until the player has caught every non-Mythical Pokémon in [[Hisui]]. The player will also receive a message from {{OBP|Arceus|game}} on the [[Arc Phone]] if they attempt to do so, repeating the message, "Seek out all Pokémon."


Once the player has caught all non-Mythical Pokémon in Hisui, playing the flute will cause a glowing stairway to appear on the north side of the temple, which the player will automatically climb. After climbing the stairs, the player will find themselves in the Hall of Origin, which has a completely different design than in [[Generation IV]]. Arceus will appear behind the player, transform their Arc Phone into [[Mysterious Balm]]s, and immediately challenge them to battle. After Arceus loses, it will grant a piece of itself to the player, along with the [[Legend Plate]]. This Arceus will be in a {{hi|Poké Ball}} and cannot be Shiny. The player can revisit the Hall of Origin at any point through Temple of Sinnoh to have a rematch with Arceus, and can also visit it for Arceus's [[Eternal Battle Reverie]] challenge by going to sleep at [[Jubilife Village]].
Once the player has caught all non-Mythical Pokémon in Hisui, playing the flute will cause a glowing stairway to appear on the north side of the temple, which the player will automatically climb. After climbing the stairs, the player will find themselves in the Hall of Origin, which has a completely different design than in [[Generation IV]]. Arceus will appear behind the player, transform their Arc Phone into [[Mysterious Balm]]s, and immediately challenge them to battle. The player can revisit the Hall of Origin at any point through Temple of Sinnoh to have a rematch with Arceus, and can also visit it for Arceus's [[Eternal Battle Reverie]] challenge by going to sleep at [[Jubilife Village]].


==Items==
==Items==
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==Pokémon==
==Special encounters==
===Generation IV===
===Generation IV===
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An {{p|Arceus}} is coded to appear here, but was never made accessible. In Platinum, if defeated or run from, it will "disappear from sight", but the Azure Flute can be used to summon it again.
{{Catch/entry4|493|Arceus|yes|yes|yes|Azure|80|all=One|type1=Normal}}
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|- style="vertical-align:top"
|{{Pokémon/4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=493
|pokemon=Arceus
|type1=Normal
|ability=Multitype
|level=80
|move1=Refresh|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Future Sight|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Special
|move3=Recover|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Hyper Beam|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|}


===Generation VIII===
===Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl===
====Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl====
An {{p|Arceus}} appears here on the first visit. If defeated or run from, it respawns after entering the [[Hall of Fame]].
{{Catch/header|space|4}}
{|
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|- style="vertical-align:top"
{{Catch/entrybdsp|493|Arceus|yes|yes|Special|80|all={{tt|One|Requires the Azure Flute}}<br><sup>(Version 1.3.0+)</sup>|type1=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/8
{{Catch/footer|space}}
|ndex=493
|pokemon=Arceus
|type1=Normal
|ability=Multitype
|level=80
|move1=Healing Wish|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Status
|move2=Future Sight|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Special
|move3=Recover|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Hyper Beam|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|}
 
===Pokémon Legends: Arceus===
{{OBP|Arceus|game}}, under the effects of the [[Legend Plate]], can be caught during [[Task#Missions|Mission]] 27: "The Deified Pokémon", which becomes available after completion of Mission 26: "Seeking the Remaining Plates". Arceus will registered as having been captured in the [[Temple of Sinnoh]]. It is coded to never be {{Shiny}}.
 
{{Pokémon/7/LG
|ndex=493
|pokemon=Arceus
|level=75
|type1=Normal
|ability=None
|move1=Calm Mind|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Status
|move2=Recover|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Judgment|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Special
|move4=Hyper Beam|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
 
Arceus, under the effects of the Legend Plate, can be rematched at any point after the first battle. It cannot be caught and must be defeated.


====Legends: Arceus====
{{Pokémon/7/LG
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|ndex=493
! #
|pokemon=Arceus
! colspan="2" | Pokémon
|level=100
! Level
|type1=Normal
! Note
|ability=None
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|move1=Calm Mind|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Status
| 493 || {{MS/LA|493}} || {{p|Arceus}} || 75 || Under the effects of the [[Legend Plate]], during [[Task#Missions|Mission]] 27: "The Deified Pokémon"
|move2=Recover|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|-
|move3=Judgment|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Special
| 493 || {{MS/LA|493}} || {{p|Arceus}} || 100 || Under the effects of the [[Legend Plate]], during rematches
|move4=Hyper Beam|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|}


==Appearance==
==Layout==
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[[File:Hall of Origin Adventures.png|thumb|210px|Hall of Origin in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
[[File:Hall of Origin Adventures.png|thumb|210px|Hall of Origin in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===Pokémon Adventures===
===Pokémon Adventures===
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===={{MangaArc|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}====
Although not by name, the Hall of Origin was mentioned by [[Archer]] in ''[[PS450|With a Little Help From Hitmonchan]]''. When {{adv|Arceus}} appeared in front of the four {{tc|Executive}}s and {{adv|Crystal}} on {{rt|38|Johto}}, Archer explained that [[Team Rocket]] had first found and awakened the Alpha Pokémon "in [[Sinnoh|a far-off land]] at the end of a long road, which seemed to continue on and on up into the heavens," obviously describing the Hall of Origin. He also revealed that Arceus had come to [[Johto]] due to all of its [[Plate]]s being currently located in the said [[region]].
Although not by name, the Hall of Origin was mentioned by [[Archer]] in ''[[PS450|With a Little Help From Hitmonchan]]''. When {{adv|Arceus}} appeared in front of the four {{tc|Executive}}s and {{adv|Crystal}} on {{rt|38|Johto}}, Archer explained that [[Team Rocket]] had first found and awakened the Alpha Pokémon "in [[Sinnoh|a far-off land]] at the end of a long road, which seemed to continue on and on up into the heavens," obviously describing the Hall of Origin. He also revealed that Arceus had come to [[Johto]] due to all of its [[Plate]]s being currently located in said [[region]].
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==Trivia==
==Trivia==
* If the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] event has already been activated with an {{pkmn2|event}} {{p|Arceus}}, another Arceus caught in the Hall of Origin may be used to go back to the Sinjoh Ruins and choose one of the two Pokémon that were not chosen previously. The reverse order is also possible. There is no way to choose the third Pokémon.
* If the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] event has already been activated with an {{pkmn2|event}} {{p|Arceus}}, another Arceus caught in the Hall of Origin may be used to go back to the Sinjoh Ruins and choose one of the two Pokémon that were not chosen previously. The reverse order is also possible. There is no way to choose the third Pokémon.
* Two versions of the Hall of Origin map exist in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}: one is the real location while the other is a "fake" copy. The "fake" Hall of Origin uses ''[[Pokémon Diamond & Pokémon Pearl: Super Music Collection|Spear Pillar]]'' as its theme and can be accessed through the [[Tweaking|void glitch]] using "Stickyman's Spear Pillar Hall of Origin" method<ref>[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r02og1raAV1F8aCj6aIPT0z7J7anWrMqFMJ-yEUm4to/edit?pli=1 Void Knowledge Archive, by the members of HallofOrigin - Google Drive]</ref>, named after its discoverer. The "fake" Hall of Origin contains no warps or events and no {{p|Arceus}}. ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPSdWG-JfDg YouTube video])
* Two versions of the Hall of Origin map exist in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}: one is the real location while the other is a "fake" copy. The "fake" Hall of Origin uses ''[[Pokémon Diamond & Pokémon Pearl: Super Music Collection|Spear Pillar]]'' as its theme and can be accessed through the [[Tweaking|void glitch]] using "Stickyman's Spear Pillar Hall of Origin" method,<ref>[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r02og1raAV1F8aCj6aIPT0z7J7anWrMqFMJ-yEUm4to/edit?pli=1 Void Knowledge Archive, by the members of HallofOrigin - Google Drive]</ref> named after its discoverer. The "fake" Hall of Origin contains no warps or events and no {{p|Arceus}}. ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPSdWG-JfDg YouTube video])
* Unlike {{p|Darkrai}} and {{p|Shaymin}}, simply obtaining access to the (real) Hall of Origin (e.g. through the void glitch) does not mean that the player can battle {{p|Arceus}} there. This is because the scripts in the area are normally programmed to only trigger through the [[Azure Flute]] script in the [[Spear Pillar]]. The player can ascend the stairs, but the script to uniquely tilt and zoom the camera will not activate, nor will the script to have Arceus challenge the player when they step onto the glass platform. The Arceus sprite still appears, but just as in the actual event, it cannot be directly interacted with. Additionally in {{game|Platinum}}, as with Darkrai and Shaymin, the Arceus sprite will not appear in the area at all unless the player has the Azure Flute in the [[Bag]]. To actually battle Arceus in the Hall of Origin, the challenge script itself must be triggered (see [[Pal Park Retire trick]]).
* Unlike {{p|Darkrai}} and {{p|Shaymin}}, simply obtaining access to the (real) Hall of Origin (e.g. through the void glitch) does not mean that the player can battle {{p|Arceus}} there. This is because the scripts in the area are normally programmed to only trigger through the [[Azure Flute]] script in the [[Spear Pillar]]. The player can ascend the stairs, but the script to uniquely tilt and zoom the camera will not activate, nor will the script to have Arceus challenge the player when they step onto the glass platform. The Arceus sprite still appears, but just as in the actual event, it cannot be directly interacted with. Additionally in {{game|Platinum}}, as with Darkrai and Shaymin, the Arceus sprite will not appear in the area at all unless the player has the Azure Flute in the [[Bag]]. To actually battle Arceus in the Hall of Origin, the challenge script itself must be triggered (see [[Pal Park Retire trick]]).
* In [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], the Hall of Origin resembles the pattern seen during the Sinjoh Ruins event in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
* In [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], the Hall of Origin resembles the pattern seen during the Sinjoh Ruins event in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
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