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Talk:Hall of Origin

So if you beat Arceus here, with a Magneton gaining experience and therefore a level from that, it'd evolve, too. TTEchidnaFire echyGSDS! 19:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Hold up!

...if this is a separate area accessed by teleport from Spear Pillar (as indicated by the screen whiteout during the event), that should mean it can be accessed with the surf glitch. TTEchidna 23:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the point is you can access it, but you can't leave without the stairs.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 23:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
What if you use Escape Rope? |: Would you be able to get out with that...? Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 16:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Probably I guess. LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 16:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone should test it out o: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 16:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I can't cause I have no ascess to the Hall of Orgin. LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 16:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

a full:::::Me nether, i have no DS cheat devices ether. D: So i can't. But i'd really like to know now Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 16:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

There is gonna be an event to get the Flute soon I think. LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 16:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
What the...? Nintendo haven't even officially revealed Arceus yet! D: How can there be an event? Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 17:01, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I said I THINK. LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 17:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Damn, no need to go capital locks on me D: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 17:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Chill out guysss...I just opened my DS up and since I have the Azure Flute (got it from a friend's AR a while ago, I'm no cheater, I just wanted Arceus :P) I'll go check out the Hall of Origin and try to use an Escape Rope there. Assuming I can still reach it. --gabbie | talk 17:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Wait, do you guys want to know if you can leave it if you reached it via Surf Glitch, or if you can just leave it normally? --gabbie | talk 17:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
we want to know if you can escape using an Escape Rope. LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 18:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Uhuh. Cause if you can i wanna put a note about it in the article... Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 18:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
No I wanna DO IT. LugiaRules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 18:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me, chill out please. --gabbie | talk 18:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay well, I just finally got to the Spear Pillar (I had forgotten how to get there, haven't played this game in ages), and I blew the Azure Flute, and it just says this:
The Azure Flute echoed hollowly...
It appears to be meaningless using the Azure Flute here...
And I tried it in different spots, and it said the same thing, so basically, since I've already caught Arceus, the Azure Flute has become obsolete and I can no longer access the Hall of Origin. D: So...someone who's never done it before will have to try this out. --gabbie | talk 18:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
D| Damn. Can an Azure Flute be attached to a Pokémon and traded? Cause if it can, im gonna ask my friends if anyone has one i could borrow/have... Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 18:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, key items can not be traded. Sorry hun. D: --gabbie | talk 18:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh right D| I didn't know if it was a key item or not. Oh well. Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 18:47, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

How about battling Arceus with 6 poisoned Pokémon? You could catch it, it would transport to the PC, then you could walk around the Hall until your last Pokémon faints. --隼也 22:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that would work. |: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 22:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It won't work cos poisoning stops at 1HP now--Dion24 00:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

O: Does it? I...never noticed, my Pokémon hardly get poisoned... So yeah... D: Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 00:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Did not know that. Probably because I don't have a DS. --隼也 16:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

That was probably a faulty cheat if the flute didn't work. Once I get Arceus- already accessed Hall of Origin- I'll try it out.Kiryu 23:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

It's pointless to try it in the Hall of Origin. You can't use it in Spear Pillar, and since they're connected, I'm 99% you won't be able to there either.--Nostalgia 02:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't work. I just realized, if someone bothers enough to hack the game to get Arceus and get stuck in Hall of Origin, wouldn't it make sense that they could just get an AR, use the WTW cheat, and walk(rather, fall) off the platform?Kiryu 01:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
EXTRA EXTRA! I surf-glitched into the hall of origin! Then i caught arceus and then... Used an escape rope! It worked! This may need verifying but as far as i know it works. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 12:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


When I got the Azure Flute from the Action Replay I went to Spear Pillar and I still couldn't get to the hall of origin. Did anyone else have this problem or am I just a loser cheater? User:Rucario64

It's because you havn't activated the event itself. Do that and then the flute should work. Tywddle 19:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

You CAN escape from Hall of Origin

It has been proven that if you AR yourself to Hall of Origin without the Flute, the stairs are in fact there.

I don't know what started the rumor that if you AR to Hall of Origin there will be no stairs.

Remember that Hall of Origin and Spear Pillar are entirely separate areas. HoO always has the stairs, and Spear Pillar never does. - unsigned comment from Blueapple128 (talkcontribs)

Er, cool. — THE TROM — 03:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)=
Not just that, but I'm pretty sure that if you were to enter the Hall of Origin via surf glitch with a Pomeg Glitched Pokémon with the Faint status (See: Battling with no Pokémon), you might be able to catch Arceus via Master Ball or luck, then faint and black out back to the Pokémon center. I don't know if this will work, so can someone check? PhoenixGraphix 23:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


OK, so I know so far that

  • Going to the Hall and knocking out Arceus allows you to come back to the Hall later
  • Going to the Hall and catchin Arceus by any means prevents you to come back to the Hall
  • Arceus is ****ing awesome, having his own place in the heavens aboev a legendary mountain and being able to change type = Pwnage!

What I don't know is

  • What happens if you go to the hall, catch Arceus, leave, release Arceus, and come back.

Can I get an answer? --Giratina's Embodiment. 17:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Why would it reappear if you released it? When you release a Pokémon it stops existing. You're not going to find it ever again.—Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 20:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, if you relese a legendary pokemon, you can normally get it back. It worked on my freinds silver. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 12:22, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

We relesed an Ho-Ho and we found it back as the tower (was it the tin or the brass? cant remember) SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 12:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Hall of Origin forums

Should the fourum "Hall of Origin" be mentioned here? Cause, they're sorta dedicated to finding this place via the tweaking glitch and stuff.

You can find it at --~Poke~ 07:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Not notable, I think. --Maxim 13:19, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


It says in the article that the Arceus caught here is the second highest legitimate Pokémon in the game. But, you can only get there by hacking, since the Azure Flute hasn't been released. Pawsrent 21:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Really? I thought it had been released many months ago. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 22:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

i: No Twiggy, it hasn't actually been released yet. Anyway, It means legitimately programmed into the game. The Arceus here is still technically legit, as it can't been altered in any way (other than a shiny AR code). In this cirumstance, a non-legit Arceus would be from an "All wild Pokemon: Arceus" sort of thing. たかはり 22:16, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


Could using the walk through walls cheat, if used in the right place, get u down the staircase? Also is it above spear pillar, or just that spear pillar can be veiwed below so arceus can check on things? Also, i read that the unown radio signal on the pokegear is simular to the melody the azure flute plays... should we put that on the page? ----Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth (talk) 06:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Two things.

1)"As soon as the player steps onto the platform in Diamond or Pearl, the game will automatically initiate the battle. " - Nothing about what happens in Platinum.

2)Hall of Origin theme... Why I see comments that it's D/P/Pt title screen music, but backwards?... Can anyone check that? Marked +-+-+ 21:09, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Highest Levelled Pokemon

May I add the fact that the level 81-100 Magikarp is also tied first with the new level 1-100 Gyarados in the Nature Preserve? I thought I'd ask as I don't want to edit something that shouldn't be edited.TurtleLover1999 (talk) 18:12, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Hall of Origin Screenshot

The screenshot of the area's full map is improperly formatted. It instead stretches the previous (or second?) screenshot to wonky proportions. Gamescook (talk) 18:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

That's because we host files on a different server, and now Bulbapedia is using previous screenshot, but with actual screenshot proportions. Will take a while to update.Eridanus (talk) 19:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Coolio! Gamescook (talk) 19:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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