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=Temple of the Sea= | ==Temple of the Sea== | ||
Where does Meowth state that diamond and pearl would be great names for games? --{{u|Theryguy512}} 12:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC) | Where does Meowth state that diamond and pearl would be great names for games? --{{u|Theryguy512}} 12:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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* To ''[[M06|Jirachi Wish Maker]]'': | * To ''[[M06|Jirachi Wish Maker]]'': | ||
** [[List_of_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_III#Negaiboshi_Jirachi|Negaiboshi Jirachi]] | ** [[List_of_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_III#Negaiboshi_Jirachi|Negaiboshi Jirachi]] | ||
* To ''[[M08| | * To ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'': | ||
** The [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#10th_Movie_Deoxys|10th Movie Deoxys]] hold a Nevermeltice, a reference to Deoxys' initial appearance a the north pole in the movie. | |||
* To ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_III#Had.C5.8D_Regis|Hadō Regis]] | ** [[List_of_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_III#Had.C5.8D_Regis|Hadō Regis]] | ||
** [[List_of_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_III#Had.C5.8D_Mew|Hadou Mew]] | ** [[List_of_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_III#Had.C5.8D_Mew|Hadou Mew]] | ||
* To ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#World_Hobby_Fair_Manaphy|World Hobby Fair Manaphy]] | |||
* To ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Movie_Darkrai|Movie Darkrai]] | |||
* To ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Movie_Shaymin|Movie Shaymin]] | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Movie_Regigigas|Movie Regigigas]] | |||
* To ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Movie_Arceus|Movie Arceus]] | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Shokotan_Pikachu-colored_Pichu|Shokotan Pikachu-colored Pichu]] (and spiky-eared Pichu) | |||
* To ''[[M13|Zororark: Master of Illusions]]'': | * To ''[[M13|Zororark: Master of Illusions]]'': | ||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Goone.27s_Scizor|Goone's Scizor]] | ** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Goone.27s_Scizor|Goone's Scizor]] | ||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Movie_Celebi|Movie Celebi]] | ** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Movie_Celebi|Movie Celebi]] | ||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Crown_Beasts|Crown Beasts]] | |||
* To ''[[M14|Victini and long title]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Ash.27s_Zekrom|Ash's Zekrom]] | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Ash.27s_Reshiram|Ash's Reshiram]] | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Juanita.27s_Golurk|Juanita's Golurk]] ([[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Juanita.27s_Golurk|wifi]]) | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Carlita.27s_Hydreigon|Carlita's Hydreigon]] ([[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Carlita.27s_Hydreigon|wifi]]) | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Eind_Victini|Eind Victini]] | |||
* To ''[[M15|Kyurem VS. The Sword of Justice]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Shokotan_Keldeo|Shokotan Keldeo]] | |||
* To ''[[M16|Extremespeed Genesect: Mewtwo Awakens]]'': | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Movie_Genesect|Movie Genesect]] | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Pok.C3.A9mon_Hills_Mewtwo|Pokemon Hills Mewtwo]] | |||
* [[List_of_Wi- | * To [[PK24]]: | ||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Movie_Meloetta|Movie Meloetta]] | |||
* To [[PK25]]: | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Kiyo_Eevee|Kiyo Eevee]] | |||
* To characters: | |||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_IV#Ash.27s_Pikachu|Ash's Pikachu]] | |||
** [[List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Pok.C3.A9mon_Center_Best_Wishes_Pok.C3.A9mon|Pokemon Center Best Wishes Pokemon]] - [[Ash's Pikachu]], [[Professor Oak]]'s [[Rotom]], [[Cilan's Pansage]] and [[Iris's Axew]] | |||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Team_Rocket_Meowth|Team Rocket's Meowth]] - has moves referring to actions Meowth has taken in the course of the show | |||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Recital_Piplup|Recital Piplup]] ([[Dawn's Piplup]]) | |||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Ash.27s_Scraggy|Ash's Scraggy]] | |||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Mystery_Eggs|Mystery Eggs]] - [[Ash's Pidove]], [[Cilan's Pansage]] and [[Iris's Axew]] | |||
** [[Iris's_Dragonite#In_the_games|Iris's Dragonite]] | |||
* Other: | |||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Decolora_Jirachi|Decolora Jirachi]] - [[BW132]] | |||
** [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Milos_Island_Thundurus|Milos Island Thundurus]], [[List_of_Wi-Fi_Japanese_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Milos_Island_Tornadus|Milos Island Tornadus]] | |||
I shall finish this later [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC) | I shall finish this later [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
==Bird Keeper Jose (GS)== | |||
In Gold & Silver, one of the callers that can be registered, {{tc|Bird Keeper}} Jose, sometimes calls the player instead of someone called "Kaz". (quote: ''Hello? This is JOSE... Wait, you're not KAZ! Sorry, wrong number.'') Is this a reference to [[Kaz]] from the Indigo League anime? Since I can't find any other in-game NPCs named Kaz. [[User:Shawn|Shawn]] ([[User talk:Shawn|talk]]) 11:18, 18 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Differentiating between cross-canon "references" and cross-canon "nods" == | |||
The current page is a bit of a jumble of multiple different types of "references" from across canon, due in large part to the multiple definitions of the term. However, I think it would be prudent to make a particular distinction between two primary kinds of "reference" that may occur, as I believe both have significant value to encyclopedic records, and at the moment one is being lost in favor of the other. For the sake of clarity, I am going to use the terms "reference" and "nod" to differentiate between these, though I am open to any other terminology that would be preferred. | |||
The distinction I am looking to make is between "nods" -- inconsequential details in a medium that reference, or subtly nod towards, another medium -- and "references" as in direct acknowledgements of events that only occurred in another medium. For example, the Team Rocket Grunts' designs in G/S/C resembling Cassidy and Jessie would be a nod, as this does not have any bearing on the plot of the games nor indicates that the anime characters of Cassidy and Jessie exist in the canon of G/S/C, but still "nods" towards them. However, Steven Stone referencing battling Rayquaza alongside Alain in the Delta Episode would be a reference, as this makes canon to the games events that have only been seen in the anime. | |||
The former case is far more common and currently make up the vast majority of the page, which means examples of the latter case are harder to find in the list. This is a shame, because both types of reference are fascinating and noteworthy in their own unique ways. I think it would be a boon to the readability of the page and the enjoyment of readers if the page was reorganized, or potentially split, to make it easier to find these vastly different cases. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 16:53, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||