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{{Forme info|386{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=S|1|5=D|2|4=A}}.png|psychic|psychic|[[Form differences#Deoxys|Deoxys's Formes]]|Deoxys in its {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Speed|1|5=Defense|2|4=Attack|3=Normal}} Forme|the artwork shown in the infobox, the [[Effort values|EV yield]] shown on the page itself, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the Pokéathlon stats entry which is unhidden, and the learnset entry which is unhidden|day}}
== Missingno. ==
== Missingno. ==


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== Shiny Artwork ==
== Shiny Artwork ==


I just uploaded the shiny artwork for Deoxys, but I'm stuck for placs to put it. <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 21:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I just uploaded the shiny artwork for Deoxys, but I'm stuck for placs to put it. <span style="background:#000000"><big><small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small></big></span> 21:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:..{{tt|he|Ken Sugimori, btw.}} made shiny Deoxys artwork? ..interesting. :0 [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 21:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:..{{tt|he|Ken Sugimori, btw.}} made shiny Deoxys artwork? ..interesting. :0 [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 21:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


I've actually found all of the shiny artwork... <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 21:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've actually found all of the shiny artwork... <span style="background:#000000"><big><small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small></big></span> 21:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Ooo.. link please? [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 21:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Ooo.. link please? [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 21:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


Hmm... It's basically just another Pokémon site. Oh and just to let you know it's in french. [http://www.pokebip.com Pokebip] <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 22:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Hmm... It's basically just another Pokémon site. Oh and just to let you know it's in french. [http://www.pokebip.com Pokebip] <span style="background:#000000"><big><small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small></big></span> 22:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


Ok... I told a white lie... No ''all'' of the Shiny Artwork, but some. XD <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok... I told a white lie... No ''all'' of the Shiny Artwork, but some. XD <span style="background:#000000"><big><small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small></big></span> 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Lol. Seems like it's just recolored in Photoshop or something though, but it's cool to look at :0 [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 22:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Lol. Seems like it's just recolored in Photoshop or something though, but it's cool to look at :0 [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 22:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


I like how they have the sprite image halfway through the animation. <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 22:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I like how they have the sprite image halfway through the animation. <span style="background:#000000"><big><small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small></big></span> 22:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Umm that Shiny art orginally came from [http://www.pokebeach.com Poke Beach]. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''''''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 22:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Umm that Shiny art orginally came from [http://www.pokebeach.com Poke Beach]. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''''''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 22:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:They're all just shooped. No need for shiny Sugimori art of all of these things. The normal art and shiny sprites suffice. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 03:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:They're all just shooped. No need for shiny Sugimori art of all of these things. The normal art and shiny sprites suffice. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 03:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


== Youtube Fake video ==
== Youtube Fake video ==
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:And another thing... if you want to start a new section on a Talk Page, click on the + at the top and sign your user name with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 18:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:And another thing... if you want to start a new section on a Talk Page, click on the + at the top and sign your user name with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 18:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, I forgot.  I just meant instead of cramming all four backsprites into sections of the box, it could cycle the way the Arceus sprite near the top of the page does.  I was also thinking that we could do that for the GenIV ones because you can get all 4.  We could also do it with Castform, Cherrim, Arceus, Unown, Burmy, Wormadam, Giratina, Shaymin, Rotom... The sprites could even cycle whenever the moving (Emerald + GenIV) sprites animation finishes.[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 19:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, I forgot.  I just meant instead of cramming all four backsprites into sections of the box, it could cycle the way the Arceus sprite near the top of the page does.  I was also thinking that we could do that for the GenIV ones because you can get all 4.  We could also do it with Castform, Cherrim, Arceus, Unown, Burmy, Wormadam, Giratina, Shaymin, Rotom... The sprites could even cycle whenever the moving (Emerald + GenIV) sprites animation finishes.[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 19:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::By the way, I meant this one
:::By the way, I meant this one <nowiki>[[Image:Arceus Formes.gif]]</nowiki> [[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 19:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Arceus Formes.gif]][[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 19:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That would be an epic pain. Plus, the only way to do that would be to change the nice, crisp pngs into crappy 256-color gifs, so everyone could see them. And that's a definite no. Anipngs would be for the animation of the sprites, not for showing all of them. The way we've got it is just fine, as far as I'm concerned, since you can click the images anyway to get to the fullsize versions. And we're not doing one of those stupid gifs for everyone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That would be an epic pain. Plus, the only way to do that would be to change the nice, crisp pngs into crappy 256-color gifs, so everyone could see them. And that's a definite no. Anipngs would be for the animation of the sprites, not for showing all of them. The way we've got it is just fine, as far as I'm concerned, since you can click the images anyway to get to the fullsize versions. And we're not doing one of those stupid gifs for everyone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


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== Moveset comparison table ==
== Moveset comparison table ==


Is it possible to get a comparison table up to show the differences between the movesets of each Forme?  Something like what's on the [[Legendary golems]] and other pages.  Just stick it below the other four moveset tables, permanently hidden so it's out of the way. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 20:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a comparison table up to show the differences between the movesets of each Forme?  Something like what's on the [[Legendary giants|Legendary golems]] and other pages.  Just stick it below the other four moveset tables, permanently hidden so it's out of the way. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 20:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


I have added one at form differences--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 22:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I have added one at form differences--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 22:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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While I don't doubt Bulbapedia's information, as it's probably more accurate then the sources I'm about to state, both the Wikipedia article for Dexoys and the 2015 Guinness Book of World Records: Gamer's Edition state that Ken Sugimori designed the character and not Hironobu Yoshida.  --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 01:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
While I don't doubt Bulbapedia's information, as it's probably more accurate then the sources I'm about to state, both the Wikipedia article for Dexoys and the 2015 Guinness Book of World Records: Gamer's Edition state that Ken Sugimori designed the character and not Hironobu Yoshida.  --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 01:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:Neither this article nor Wikipedia cites a source for their claim, so I don't know which is correct. The GBoWR is not the most reliable book for non-world record info; in fact, they probably just got the info from Wikipedia. However, I also find it odd that you're asking this, since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Deoxys_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2023904 you were the one who added Deoxys's designer to this page in the first place]; what was your source when you did so? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:Neither this article nor Wikipedia cites a source for their claim, so I don't know which is correct. The GBoWR is not the most reliable book for non-world record info; in fact, they probably just got the info from Wikipedia. However, I also find it odd that you're asking this, since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Deoxys_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2023904 you were the one who added Deoxys's designer to this page in the first place]; what was your source when you did so? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::Oh snap! You are totally right, I do remember adding that now you have reminded me. I just looked back through my documents and I have found my original log of evidence: "A source that predates this is a [http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/index.php?title=Hironobu_Yoshida&oldid=278908 Spanish(?) Pokémon wiki] that was initially added 2nd Nov 2013. The very earliest I can seem to find in English though is from summer 2013, and it's [http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46539404&postcount=21 this forum] stating the Pokémon he created are: Wobbufett, Deoxys, Celebi, Dunsparce and Magmortar. Though the sources are stated to be from Bulbapedia originally, a link is not given. To me, the most likely reason is that it originates from Hironobu illustrating the Deoxys cards for the TCG. I went to Wikipedia to look back at the Deoxys page history and the source given does not actually state Ken designed it - or anyone for that matter, though it quotes 'Deoxys was created by Ken Sugimori with the aid of a development team' in the 2010 Wikipedia article itself. Since then, a source for this claim is needed on Wikipedia.
::Oh snap! You are totally right, I do remember adding that now you have reminded me. I just looked back through my documents and I have found my original log of evidence (with a new source I found by Googling just now which is a Japanese Twitter page): "A source that predates this is a [http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/index.php?title=Hironobu_Yoshida&oldid=278908 Spanish(?) Pokémon wiki] that was initially added 2nd Nov 2013. The very earliest I can seem to find in English though is from summer 2013, and it's [http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46539404&postcount=21 this forum] stating the Pokémon he created are: Wobbufett, Deoxys, Celebi, Dunsparce and Magmortar. Though the sources are stated to be from Bulbapedia originally, a link is not given. To me, the most likely reason is that it originates from Hironobu illustrating the Deoxys cards for the TCG. I went to Wikipedia to look back at the Deoxys page history and the source given does not actually state Ken designed it - or anyone for that matter, though it quotes 'Deoxys was created by Ken Sugimori with the aid of a development team' in the 2010 Wikipedia article itself. Since then, a source for this claim is needed on Wikipedia.


::I decided to look into some Japanese websites and [http://games.yahoo.co.jp/qa/detail?qid=1083185690 this Yahoo answer] from 2012 states similarly to the English forum. I found this [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://twitter.com/ccccryaccc/status/554628966791647232&prev=search twitter] post which, while posted this year, seems to contain a screenshot of a strategy guide containing Hironobu's creator profile, where he is credited for creating Deoxys. I read more into this guide and apparently it is from an official strategy book - I still need to find a full visual source though. Then I found this site. The person on this site wanted to find out who designed Darkrai, and they found what seems to be [http://ameblo.jp/ilovedarkrai/entry-11708850068.html a lot of evidence]. This, along with many other Japanese sites also having this information, seems relatively convincing to me and, if right, would mean he would have designed Darkrai as well. Still, it would seem strange I haven't found a source from the developers mouths - though that doesn't seem to happen often anyway." I'm really not sure how I forgot about most of this, I guess it's because I didn't think it would ever be worthwhile. Still, this is all the information I found so make of it what you will.
::I decided to look into some Japanese websites and [http://games.yahoo.co.jp/qa/detail?qid=1083185690 this Yahoo answer] from 2012 states similarly to the English forum. I found this [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://twitter.com/ccccryaccc/status/554628966791647232&prev=search twitter] post which, while posted this year, seems to contain a screenshot of a strategy guide containing Hironobu's creator profile, where he is credited for creating Deoxys. I read more into this guide and apparently it is from an official strategy book - I still need to find a full visual source though. Then I found this site. The person on this site wanted to find out who designed Darkrai, and they found what seems to be [http://ameblo.jp/ilovedarkrai/entry-11708850068.html a lot of evidence]. This, along with many other Japanese sites also having this information, seems relatively convincing to me and, if right, would mean he would have designed Darkrai as well. Still, it would seem strange I haven't found a source from the developers mouths - though that doesn't seem to happen often anyway." I'm really not sure how I forgot about most of this, I guess it's because I didn't think it would ever be worthwhile. Still, this is all the information I found so make of it what you will.


::On an unrelated note, I ''just'' realized are User/Talk signatures are eerily similar. I copied the font type and colour from my school wiki blog when I first made my profile, but it seems so close to yours maybe they got the code originally from you.  --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 03:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::On an unrelated note, I ''just'' realized are User/Talk signatures are eerily similar. I copied the font type and colour from my school wiki blog when I first made my profile, but it seems so close to yours maybe they got the code originally from you.  --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 03:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
== Mythical? ==
Is Deoxys still Mythical, even though it is obtainable through normal gameplay? [[User:Flanl|Flanl]] ([[User talk:Flanl|talk]]) 23:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
:This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Deoxys is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
== The name in other languages ==
Should I add Deoxys translated names in Russian, Czech, Greek, Hungarian and Serbian? Since its name has ben translated. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 17:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
:Officially and not the same as in English? [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
::They're most likely from [[M07#In other languages|dubs of ''Destiny Deoxys'']], and they meet both of Eridanus's criteria. Feel free to add them, Raltseye. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:51, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Thank you I have added them all now. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 18:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
in greek language the word oxys means acid so the name Deoxys is the first to of the word deoxyribonucleic and the word oxys(Greek word for acid) if somebody can add it to the page of the deoxys at <<name's origin>> because i am not able to do it (User:Wertyuiooo)
== Locked Page ==
Apologies if this is the wrong section to post this, but is Deoxys' page locked? For some reason I'm unable to edit it, though I'm able to edit other pages. [[User:Rainingblues|Rainingblues]] ([[User talk:Rainingblues|talk]]) 07:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
:Editing on this page is currently restricted to {{bp|Autoconfirmed users}} and above due to an edit dispute. Since you've only joined recently, it may be a little bit before you can edit it. Once you've made more edits and some time has passed, you'll automatically be granted access to this page. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
:: Latching on to this post, how long is it to be autoconfirmed? Newcomer myself. [[User:ShadowBlizzard|ShadowBlizzard]] ([[User talk:ShadowBlizzard|talk]]) 19:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
:::The specific details (number of edits and length of time) are not shared with users (most likely to prevent frivolous edits to get to autoconfirmed quicker). Best you can do is just make other edits elsewhere and keep checking back to the autoconfirmed-only page. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 22:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
==Name Origin==
hello i want to add somethink at the name's origin if you see a little upper i have find out that it's name is based on the word deoxyribonucleic(de-) and the the Greek word oxys {{unsigned|Wertyuiooo}}
== Deoxys Listed as "Legendary" on Pokèmon Center Website ==
According to the Pokèmon Center website, Deoxys is a legendary Pokèmon, not a mythical one.
source: http://www.pokemoncenter.com/info/Pokemon_Characters
The legendary Pokèmon list includes Mewtwo, Lugia, Regirock, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, '''Deoxys''', Xerneas, and Yveltal.
The mythical Pokèmon list includes Mew, Jirachi, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, and Diancie. Note that the image for mythical Pokèmon also shows Genesect.
This is the first source I've personally seen that claims Deoxys to be either legendary or mythical. If it is the only official source on the matter, then I would recommend changing this article accordingly. However, because there may be another source that contradicts this, I will hold off on the edit. [[User:Pacack|<span style="text-shadow: 2px 1px 1px #FFE300">ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack</span>]] 03:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
:It is explicitly called Mythical in ORAS. Refer to [[Talk:Legendary Pokémon#Deoxys]] (if you wade through to the end). That is interesting, though; it's the first thing to inarguably class Deoxys as Legendary, giving us a bona fide conflict now... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
::I'll bring it up on the Legendary Pokémon page. If nothing else, it might deserve to be mentioned as a conflict. [[User:Pacack|<span style="text-shadow: 2px 1px 1px #FFE300">ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack</span>]] 01:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
== That whole event thing. ==
What I'm trying to say is that, although Ranch isn't a core game, it basically makes it so that Mew no longer requires an event, technically making Deoxys the 2nd Pokemon, and not the 1st.
Okay, now someone may be thinking "Ranger Manaphy", but AFAIK, there's no way to reset that data to get a new one, because the game doesn't erase it. At least with Ranch you can delete the data from the Wii menu & start from scratch to get another. That's why I said "catchable." [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:03, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:I went ahead and added a "games outside the core series" clause that should cover Ranch Mew, Ranger Manaphy Egg, Colosseum Bonus Disk Jirachi/Celebi, and any other ones I'm forgetting at the moment. I hope that solves both sides' issue with the trivium. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:14, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::The trivia is ''not'' talking about whether you can get a Mythical Pokemon without an event, ''period''.
::The trivia is saying, Deoxys is the only Mythical that is IN a CORE game, and that does not require an event to get it. Is Mew in a core game? Sure. Without an event? NO. Celebi? Sure. Without an event? NO. (Same for Darkrai, Arceus, Shaymin, Victini.) Jirachi/Manaphy? Not IN a core game. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:24, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Ranch isn't an event. Therefore, Mew IS obtainable without an event. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::::And that's NOT what the trivia is about. ...Please, can you tell me: where is Haley's Mew present in a core game? (Remember: CORE game.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::... When you transfer it. Yes, I get that you can't get it without Ranch, but an event and spin-off games are 2 completely different things. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::And that's not IN a core game. Which is ''what the trivia point is about''. Hayley's Mew is not in a core game; it has NO bearing on this trivia. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:50, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Deoxys is the only Mythical Pokémon to become '''''available'' within a core series''' game without an event.
:::::::: Available being the keyword. The Mew gets transferred to the core games without an event. That's why it should be reworded. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::No. "Within" is the key word. I.e., without touching any other game. You start a core game, walk around in the game, and eventually in the game, you find a Mythical Pokemon, without having done anything in particular anywhere ''but'' in the same game. A reasonable person is almost ''entirely'' likely to read it like that. You're just too focused on your own point to see anything else clearly. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::Okay, fine. You got me there. When I have something on my mind, it's hard to focus on anything else. And I always miss stuff when reading, 2 of my weaknesses. *sighs* Sorry to waste your time. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:53, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
== A few things ==
1) Is the English transliteration for the Greek name correct? I always thought nu tau was "d" and not "it".
2) Since there's been official word saying Deoxys is Legendary and official word saying Deoxys is Mythical... why not both? The different reports don't have to be conflicting. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#98CC00">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#FFC37D">onkey</span>]] 17:17, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
:1) As far as I know, no, it's not. Though I might be wrong as I can't speak Greek.
:2) I don't see what point you're trying to make. When is it said that Deoxys is legendary? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 17:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
::1) Ok.
::2) It was on the Pokémon Center website in 2015. I can't find it anymore, but if you look in the Mythical Mania section now, every Mythical Pokémon from gens 1-5 is there... except Deoxys. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#98CC00">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#FFC37D">onkey</span>]] 17:42, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
== Mythical Status ==
Should Deoxys even be called a mythical Pokemon anymore? I mean, we don't need a mystery gift to get. We can get it in the post story of ORAS. Not really mythical anymore {{unsigned|Swonic}}
:Please refer to the discussion on Legendary Pokémon's talk page regarding Deoxys, it was explicitly called a Mythical Pokémon in ORAS.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 12:43, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
== Trivia Point ==
"Using the first letter from the names of three of Deoxys's Formes, one can spell "DNA" (Defense, Normal, Attack). The letter "s" at the ending of Deoxys's name could stand for Speed." What point is this trying to make? This seems like a kind of silly piece of trivia. I believe it should be removed. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
:I think the trivia about DNA is interesting, given that Deoxys is based on DNA. The "s" point I can't make any sense of and think should be removed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:35, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks. It reads a lot better now, imo. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
== Deoxys symbol  ==
I would like to add this to the origin section:
The ∴ symbol on Deoxys' back may be a {{wp|therefore sign}}, indicating a logical consequence in computing and mathematics. Possibly the symbol suggests a constellation like a similar grouping of asterisks, known in typography as a "group of stars" indicating a break in text. In Tamil language the symbol indicates an aspiration called a ''Visarga'', meaning "sending forth, discharge". Overall the symbol may suggest Deoxys' extraterrestrial origin, its ability to discharge lasers, and its employing computational language. [[User:Samuelmather|Samuelmather]] ([[User talk:Samuelmather|talk]]) 03:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
== Speed Form + Zap Cannon in Go? ==
Last night I corrected Defense Form's moves in Go; it had Zap Cannon listed instead of Thunderbolt. I *think* the same error applies to Speed form too, but I can't confirm it because I don't have that form to use an Elite TM on. Does it really have Zap Cannon? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:08, 7 August 2020 (UTC)