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Undo revision 3715886 by Pokemaster124 (talk): Please don't respond to conversations over 6 months old. Additionally, that reply was made prior to Gen V's release, so saying he's "wrong" is entirely hindsight.
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:Doesn't matter. Just because it had a bow, doesn't mean it's meant to imply that it's female. Putting a bow on something does not mean it's suddenly of a specific gender.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC) | :Doesn't matter. Just because it had a bow, doesn't mean it's meant to imply that it's female. Putting a bow on something does not mean it's suddenly of a specific gender.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC) | ||
::Of course it does, it's obvious. That's cultural implication, there is no other reason to do that. The show is made for children, so they are supposed to understand it.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 23:25, 7 June 2021 (UTC) | ::Of course it does, it's obvious. That's cultural implication, there is no other reason to do that. The show is made for children, so they are supposed to understand it.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 23:25, 7 June 2021 (UTC) | ||
:::People can come to their own conclusions, sure. It's obvious, sure. But it doesn't mean we're going to put it on the site. Cultural implications is not a good reason to add it, especially in this day and age.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::Why not? Because that just seems like a gatekeeping, filtering facts we don't like.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 14:41, 8 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::Because the clothing doesn't determine ones gender? A pink bow doesn't automatically make it female.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:25, 8 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::::That's what I'm saying. It's not determined, it's implied, so it will only appear as trivia. Also, in the episode "EP124:Snubbull Snobbery" Brock says that pink bows on Snubbull make her a girl, so it's even stated for the children.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 19:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::::That's still different, in the sense that it was ''stated''. We can say that about Snubbull because we have something verbal to go off of. If it weren't stated, then it'd be speculation based on gender stereotypes, and that is not what we want.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:07, 9 June 2021 (UTC) | |||