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Oh look, guys. Another archived page. Let's take care not to bombard me with questions on the release of {{2v2|Black|White}}. I won't have the game until the US release in March. {{u|Kogoro|Kogsie}} does have the Japanese game, though. So bombard her or {{u|MAGNEDETH|Deth}} unless you ''really'' need my opinion.
Oh look, guys. Another archived page. Let's take care not to bombard me with questions on the release of {{2v2|Black|White}}. I won't have the game until the US release in March. {{u|Kogoro|Kogsie}} does have the Japanese game, though. So bombard her or {{u|MAGNEDETH|Deth}} unless you ''really'' need my opinion.


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{{u|Ph4mp573r}} is a user, obviously a sockpuppet (probably one). We better question him...--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 12:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
{{u|Ph4mp573r}} is a user, obviously a sockpuppet (probably one). We better question him...--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 12:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
:No, he's not. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
:No, he's not. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
::As in Ph43r? Yeah.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 08:24, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Five weeks later, he's still not. Funny that. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:31, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Let's... just archive this as soon as possible.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 13:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


== Quick question ==
== Quick question ==
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== Learnset category ==
== Learnset category ==


I'm just a little curious how a regular user would take a Pokémon off the [[:Category:Pages which still use the old learnset templates|old learnset category]]. I've done a few and I can't find a way to take them off the list. [[User:Jo The Marten|Jo The Marten]] 01:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm just a little curious how a regular user would take a Pokémon off the Category:Pages which still use the old learnset templates. I've done a few and I can't find a way to take them off the list. [[User:Jo The Marten|Jo The Marten]] 01:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's automatic, when you update the page with the new template, just purge the page.  <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 01:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's automatic, when you update the page with the new template, just purge the page.  <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 01:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
::Alright. If that's the case, something is up with Cyndaquil. I made his learnset template and he's still in the category. The other Pokémon I did are off the list but Cyndaquil is still there. [[User:Jo The Marten|Jo The Marten]] 01:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
::Alright. If that's the case, something is up with Cyndaquil. I made his learnset template and he's still in the category. The other Pokémon I did are off the list but Cyndaquil is still there. [[User:Jo The Marten|Jo The Marten]] 01:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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This is not cryptic, just drop everything and think about it.[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
This is not cryptic, just drop everything and think about it.[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Kuki is suddenly Hitler? Last I checked, he was Jewish... Anyway, threats like that aren't exactly gonna work on me. Besides. It's a fucking wiki. There is no way to do any lasting damage, and it's literally no more than a minor nuisance, considering I have the ability to ''lock the wiki from editing'', ''delete revisions'', ''block your IP indefinitely'', and a ''whole hell of a lot of other things''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Kuki is suddenly Hitler? Last I checked, he was Jewish... Anyway, threats like that aren't exactly gonna work on me. Besides. It's a fucking wiki. There is no way to do any lasting damage, and it's literally no more than a minor nuisance, considering I have the ability to ''lock the wiki from editing'', ''delete revisions'', ''block your IP indefinitely'', and a ''whole hell of a lot of other things''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
No, I meant that many users will rise upon the network and virtually destroy all of you. The leaders will help rebuild it in a better light, and they'll sure not let "you and your grunts" in, i.e. put a century-long block on any IP any of you have.
[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 23:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


== Lightningrod and Storm Drain ==
== Lightningrod and Storm Drain ==
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:The archives were locked along with Bulbapedia and have yet to be unlocked.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 16:34, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:The archives were locked along with Bulbapedia and have yet to be unlocked.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 16:34, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::The Archives is a separate entity and the Editor in Chief there still apparently does not want it unlocked yet. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 16:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::The Archives is a separate entity and the Editor in Chief there still apparently does not want it unlocked yet. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 16:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Wish my word were able to keep BP locked longer, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
== pokemon ==
u used profanity a lot, so i'll use it.
WHY THE H*** CAN'T FRICKIN' ANYONE TELL ME WHAT THE H*** THOSE DAMN POKEMON AT THE TOP OF TALK PAGES ARE FOR? IS IT SOME SORT OF SECRET?
:Pokémon Health = User's Talk Page Space left. Simple. --[[User:AWA|AWA]] 01:04, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yep. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:32, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:If you want, you can have one too - see [[User:Ztobor/HPBar template sandbox|this template]] for instructions. It looks different from TTE's, though, I'll just tell you that in advance. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 18:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
== Something I'd like to discuss ==
TTE, there is one Isshu that I'm focusing on. That would be the [[Isshu]] region's page.
More specifically, it is the fact that many people have been mislead by the wording on the page. It leads one to believe that the basis of Isshu is New York.
Which it isn't.
New York is merely the motif, the design on the land, not the basis of the land itself.
If it were truly the basis, why would the Motif be used not only in the PokePia of last month but also on Nintendo.co.jp (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html) and Game Freak's official blog (http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/?p=286).
It is not confirmed in any way to based solely on New York. Any source who says that has no official proof. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible.
Can you please fix the information on the page? This is not speculation, this is fact. What is up right now is speculation.
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 00:57, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's New York. Period. Look at Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. They don't match directly to Japan's regions. Hiun's just south Manhattan. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:32, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::No, it's not. There are too many size discrepancies between Isshu and New York. And there are plenty of other isshus that make an extremely strong case against Isshu being 100% Manhattan. If you ignore all those facts, you're really, really sorry. And if you ignore the fact that 2 OFFICIAL SOURCES FROM THE GAME DEVELOPMENT TEAM and the company that owns all the rights to the game , not fan sites, not some sites that don't deserve any trust from us, have stated, and I quote, イッシュ地方とした今回の舞台のモチーフはニューヨーク (New York is Isshu's Motif. モチーフ: this means motif. It translates as Mochifu.) then '''how dense are you'''?
::Seriously, pull your head out of your butt and look at the FACTS. No OFFICIAL source has comfirmed anything beyond the Motif level. In fact, if anyone other that Nintendo or Game Freak says the opposite, they're contradicting the highest-level-possible authority on the matter. And that includes this page.
::Change it. NOW.
::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::They would similarly claim that Kansai is Johto's ''motif''. The difference between Isshu and New York is the fact that ''if it were based on New York totally, all we'd have is city''. And technically, that'd essentially be true of the rest of the regions. Japan is a densely-populated country. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/?p=105
::::Do you know what it says there?
::::九州を舞台にしたんです。
::::"Kyushu is a stage."
::::So no, they would not use the word motif to describe the land's basis. They would use the word motif. Motif, when used for Hoenn, would describe Hoenn's tropical feel. Not the terrain and not it's coastline. The terrain of all regions tend to match the terrain of their real-life counterparts. Not climates. Climates have definitely been changed. But the geographic terrain is the same.
::::And FYI, Manhattan does not have dual mountain ranges.
::::Also, just to check, do you understand the definition of the word "motif"?
::::Motif is to Model/Stage/Basis as is the pattern of a shirt to the shirt itself. The motif of a shirt could be anything: Tye-dye, pinstripe, plaid. But does that change the base model of the shirt? No, it doesn't. Say you grab 3 of the same shirts off a shirt making line before they go to dyeing. They're all the same color: a dull white. A blank slate. Then you proceed to dye the first shirt red, the second shirt blue and the third shirt purple. Does that change the base shirts' shape or anything? No. It changes the motif (color) of the shirt.
::::This can also be applied to the Pokemon series: The motif of Isshu is New York. Take away all the cities, roads and non-geographical features. What are you left with? You're left with the base of Isshu, a location with three-peninsulas , dual mountain ranges on opposite peninsulas and a lake on the middle one. Does the geographical terrain of Manhattan match up to that?
::::Simple answer: No, it does not.
::::Do you understand my point yet?
::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:13, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Hoenn doesn't match up to Kyushu exactly. OMGZ MOTIFFFFF. Isshu is just as based on New York as Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are based on Kanto, Kansai, Kyushu, and Hokkaido. Just in a different manner. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Hoenn, if rotated 90 degrees clockwise (like it was confirmed to be, compared to Kyushu, by Mr. Junichi Masuda), will match the terrain and coastline of Kyushu pretty closely. The same cannot be said for Isshu and Manhattan. Your point is null.
::::::Question still remains: Do you understand my point yet?
::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::And FYI, if you strip away all the non-geographical parts of Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh and even the Ranger series games, you will find they match almost perfectly to that of their real-life bases.
:::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:25, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Alright, Mackinz. You're seriously being annoying. Don't you think TTE has better things to do than argue with you endlessly about a semantic point you'll never let go? Drop the sense of entitlement and accept that sometimes the majority opinion doesn't match your own. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::So, if the majority willed it, that would change the facts? Basically, right now, the Isshu page on Bulbapedia has totally dismissed all facts and gone with the general assumption that Game Freak using motif '''definitely''' means that the basis of Isshu is New York.
:::::::::I was right in my assumption that no one really cares about the definition of motif is.
:::::::::Just look at you right now, Andy. "...accept that sometimes the majority opinion doesn't match your own."
:::::::::You know what that says? It says you don't care about facts. You don't care about logic. You care about only wanting it to be your way. You only see it your way. You're not going on facts, you're going on an assumption. An ASSUMPTION. When there are FACTS to the contrary. This ISN'T "room for doubt" which I've argued about before. This IS me trying to get the FACTS out in the open and the only place that will actually LISTEN to the FACTS, or at least I thought it would, was Bulbapedia.
:::::::::Not anymore, I guess.
:::::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:41, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::I care about facts. On the [[PKWorld]] talk page, I refuted each of your points, and you then went and insulted me. And you did the same to TTE, the freakin' editor in chief! The point is you're arguing about a minor semantic quibble. Motif meaning something different than basis in this case is not a fact, it is your OPINION. Motif meaning basically the same thing in this context is our OPINION. So why don't you quit flaming people based on your own authoritarianism, and start doing something constructive? --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 20:49, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::First of all, I have not commented at all on the PKWorld page. You must be confusing me with someone else.
:::::::::::Second, compare http://www.synonym.com/definition/motif/ to http://www.synonym.com/definition/model/ , http://www.synonym.com/definition/basis/ , and http://www.synonym.com/definition/stage/ .
:::::::::::If you'll kindly notice, there are virtually no similarities between the definitions of Motif and Model, Stage or Basis.
:::::::::::In other words, this is fact: Motif does not mean Model, Stage or Basis. Thus, it should not be taken as fact that Motif means Basis when, in fact, it doesn't. Junichi Masuda is smart enough to know the difference.
:::::::::::Edit: Yes, I understand that you mean the [[Talk:Unova|Talk:Isshu]] page. I apologize for that. I should have used "Get a dictionary" instead of "Learn English". That was my fault entirely and I apologize. Do not let it corrupt discussion on facts.
:::::::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 21:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Alright, well, now that we've evened that out... I still think the motif could be considered equivalent to basis in this case. There's no other clear basis for the Isshu region, so while it does admittedly differ wildly from New York City and the surrounding area geographically, it still maintains those themes, or motifs, or whatnot of diversity, and thus is the closest thing we really have to basis. Am I making sense? Perhaps we could maintain the mention of basis, but note that it doesn't specifically refer to geography? --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 21:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Coastline is geographic. Just because there are mountains doesn't mean much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::As a combined answer to both of you, "it doesn't even have the same coastline." Though this is widely debatable, and I'm not in the mood to debate over a coastline, the "right" side (when angled to match Isshu's orientation) extends far below that of the "middle" of Manhattan. As well as the river's being of two different widths.
::::::::::::::Now, onto my direct reply to Andy: In my opinion, not that I'm fighting for it in this case one bit, I'm just trying to correct the wording on the Isshu page, not fight for my opinion, it's Shanghai. But do not take this as the reason why I'm fighting for the wording to be fixed. I'm a bit of a "grammar nazi" and I'm a logician.
::::::::::::::Maintaining themes does not determine where it is based: Since Hoenn is a tropical island theme, why is it confirmed to be Kyushu? Because Junichi Masuda confirmed it to be so. And the same is for Isshu: Junichi Masuda confirmed, in multiple official websites, that Isshu's motif, theme, what-have-you (but not basis) is New York. So you should not keep the word basis at all and, instead, use the word "motif" or "theme".
::::::::::::::Geography is all important when deciding where the games are based without official confirmation. Coastline, geographical terrain and etc. are always maintained so players can get an idea of where they are actually playing. The two mountain ranges are the "killing blow" that proves that Junichi Masuda meant Motif instead of Model/Basis/Stage.
::::::::::::::So please, until we get direct confirmation from Game Freak/Nintendo regarding Isshu's whereabouts in real-life and not it's "theme", can we please get the wording fixed?
::::::::::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 22:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::It's America. It's New York. Look, I'd love for it to have been Chicago instead. but it's not. Maybe in Gen VI. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::I never said you couldn't have your own opinion. I only ask that you change [[Isshu]] to reflect the facts instead of the opinion of the mass. Is that too much to ask? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 23:30, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Isshu#Just_throwing_this_out_there
Fix it.
Soon would be preferable.
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Once again. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Isshu#Just_throwing_this_out_there
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 04:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
== This is killing me ==
The lack of standard on Japanese romanization is killing me. The MoS tells to use Hepburn (the one with macrons) but in the new articles no one uses it. When I moved [[Geechisu]] to [[Gēchisu]] I got scolded by Maverick that there is some problem with macrons but he didn't bother to discuss the problems. There is no standard at all currently. For example, on [[Isshu]] page I can see Sanyou and Shippou City but suddenly there's Soryu City. Why can't we agree on one consistent romanization scheme? What is happening now is a real madness - everything is romanized in a non-standard, unruly way. And finally, what's the problem with macrons? No one seems to bother to get rid of the problem. Please do something. It's a really bothersome thing. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:17, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:Macrons are hard to type. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::So what? This is what we have the palette for. And it shouldn't be a reason for such a mess in romanizations. I suggest enforcing Hepburn again. Or if not, at least choose one consistent scheme. What we have now is an unruly mess - like Sany'''ou''' but S'''o'''ry'''u'''. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:50, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'd say use the one that needs the least number of combining characters - i.e. macrons (e.g. in the above example, Sany'''ou''' instead of Sany'''ō''', which is the electronics company). It's easier to type and better supported. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 22:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Think of it this way, we all called Ho-Oh "Houou", not "Hōō" or "Hoo", before it was released in English. So if Soryu is Souryuu, hey, go ahead, change it, or whatever. For titles, macronless romanization is preferred - we can put in the proper one as soon as we get English names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::But still, this is not what MoS says. And this is a very nonstandard romanization. What fans use isn't really an argument. They're mostly influenced by Serebii, who uses such oddities as "Leparasudu" or "Goruggo" (really, I had to move the page yesterday because of this). Really, if macrons are hard to type, then why we are enforcing the Pokémon (with an accented E) thing so strictly? Accented E is also hard to type, unless you're French or whatever. Bulbapedia must have a policy on romanization. And it has. But for some strange reason it isn't following it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Accent e is ''a lot'' easier to type than a macron. If we have macrons in our Japanese Pokémon names, then we gotta make ''more'' redirects, and then fix more redirects on getting the English name, official romanization, or whatever. And I know they're influenced by Serebii. Check the top sitenotice. Don't use other fansites as if they're sources. A vain hope, of course, but still.
::::Plus, in the past, as with Ho-Oh (which is Houou in official Japanese use) we can take some liberties. Sanyou is following the standard that Houou did. You know as well as I di that the Japanese names are a placeholder. Wargle or Wooguru or Wōguru. Doesn't matter. It'll be moving anyway in six months or less, and afterwards will be unimportant. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Houou is trademarked romanization. Sanyou isn't. We MUST follow one consistent scheme or otherwise it will be a complete mess. I moved Soryu to Souryuu to conform with Sanyou (which should be San'you, if anything) and Shippou but perhaps I should have moved Shippou to Shippo and Sanyou to San(')yo? For all old pages which have no English names (and will probably never get, I'm talking about obscure manga stuff mostly), we use all consistent Hepburn. Six months is a pretty long time, still. By your logic, we could "romanize" ウォーグル as "Captainamerica" because "the page will be moved anyway when the English name is revealed, so it doesn't matter what name we use so far" or even we could move {{p|Tsutarja}} to Smugleaf because "it's only a placeholder and many fans use it". But that's not what our policy is. There is no thing as "placeholder". As long as there is no English name we should use a properly romanized Japanese name. I don't see much room for liberties. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:32, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Technically, Sanyou ''is'' properly romanized. It's an alternate romanization from Sanyō, just like Houou is, while trademarked, an alternate romanization of (proper Hepburn) Hōō. Wargle is Wouguru, Wooguru, or Wōguru. Hell, technically, if we're up-to-date, we ought have macrons over the syllable n's. Shin̄ō, that is, not Shin'ou, or Shin'ō as we have it now. But that's a pain in the ass if it's the page name - everyone would be going through a redirect. Name me one person on this entire wiki who types out the macrons, instead of using the palette. é is easy. It's Alt+130. But the macrons? I dunno if there are even alt codes for them. No actual languages ''use'' them, just romanizations of languages. I will agree with you that yeah, we should ''probably'' use the "proper" romanization in the infobox, but in the page title, it's just unnecessary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
==Template help==
Something's wrong with the evobox template. In Pokémon with divergent evolutions, where the second evolution method involves trading with a held item (example: {{p|Poliwag}}, {{p|Slowking}}, {{p|Clamperl}}), the template is broke. See for yourself. I can't find out what's wrong with it, can you look into it? --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 20:26, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:Agh, dammit, find and replace did me wrong. I fixed it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:45, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
== I should've asked this quite a few edits ago... ==
In move pages, should the possible parents for breeding be indicated in <code><nowiki>{{ms|###|Pokémon}}</nowiki></code> template? I've never really noticed it in the Pokémon pages and don't remember to have ever seen one in a move page, but I just saw Charmander's page and it occurred to me. [[User:Mr. Charlie|<font color="#000000">'''Mr. Charlie'''</font>]]<small>([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|<font color="#0000FF">''TalkToMe''</font>]])</small> 00:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's supposed to be <code><nowiki>{{MSP|###|NAME}}</nowiki></code>. MS doesn't link properly because some people wanted it to be able to link plainly, instead of to X (Pokémon), in the case of, say, glitch Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ugh. Unlike [[Template:Learnlist/breed4]], which seems to adjust its width as necessary, as it appears in Pokémon pages, [[Template:Moveentry]] always goes for the smallest width possible and ends up placing only one Pokémon per line, which makes it look really bad. For example, if Aerodactyl could learn Roost by breeding from Pidgey and Spearow lines the two templates make the same info show up like this:
{{learnlist/breedh|Aerodactyl|rock|flying|4|1}}
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}<br>{{MSP|021|Spearow}}{{MSP|022|Fearow}}|Roost|Flying|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|Cute|0}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Aerodactyl|rock|flying|4|1}}
{| {| align="left" style="background: #{{Flying color light}}; {{roundy|1em}} border: 3px solid #{{Flying color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" style="background: #{{Flying color light}}; border:1px solid #{{Flying color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{Flying color light}};"
! width="30px" | #
! width="36px" | &nbsp;
! width="66px" | [[Pokémon (species)|{{color|000|Pokémon}}]]
! colspan="2" width="62px" | [[Type|{{color|000|Type}}]]
! width="132px" | Father
{{Moveentry|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}<br>{{MSP|021|Spearow}}{{MSP|022|Fearow}}|}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}
Any way I can get around this?  [[User:Mr. Charlie|<font color="#000000">'''Mr. Charlie'''</font>]]<small>([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|<font color="#0000FF">''TalkToMe''</font>]])</small> 10:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm planning to slightly redo that template eventually. Just do the menusprites now, it'll be able to look awesome later. Beats me as to why it tries to shrink... meh. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::I just noted that it seems to only go "wrong" when there are 3 or more sprites supposed to be in the same line... It seems to work just fine with only two. Maybe some sort of width limit or something?  [[User:Mr. Charlie|<font color="#000000">'''Mr. Charlie'''</font>]]<small>([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|<font color="#0000FF">''TalkToMe''</font>]])</small> 15:08, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Might be why it's acting up right now. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:10, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
== Question ==
Hey TT, I've a question for you. Why have you protected all (most of the) the Best Wishes episode articles? There isn't any kind of speculation crackdown problem, no spamming problem or anything. Then, is there a valid reason for their protection? Just asking, thank you. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 04:31, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:From creation or from editing? Or from moving? If BW001-003 are protected from editing, that should expire, I'd say. From moving, never expire. From creation... I think I did up to 010 on that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::I'm talking about moving, it's about creating. So, it's 1 to 10? 11th is also under protection. So, I'm asking about the reason for protecting them *Creating the new articles issue*. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 10:32, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I only protected up to 11. After that it's (for better or worse) a free-for-all. I reduced the time, though it's doubtful it'd expire before we get an announcement. Not like we exactly need it to expire... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 08:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::TT, as you are the active one right now. Can you please unprotect [[BW009]]? We have its title now, so it'll be great if you un-protect it asap. Thanks <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 20:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
== Signature customisation ==
How do you add colour to your signatures?  [[User:Ruberduck0123|Ruberduck0123]] 06:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:<code><nowiki>[[User:Ruberduck0123|<span style="color:green;">Ruberduck0123</span>]]</nowiki></code> would give [[User:Ruberduck0123|<span style="color:green;">Ruberduck0123</span>]]. You can also use hex codes (from
ColorPicker.com) for example. Have fun. [[User:Takharii|<span style="color:#FFD733;">'''たか'''</span>]][[User talk:Takharii|<span style="color:#DAA520;">'''はり'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''い'''</span>]] 06:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::[[User:Ruberduck0123|<span style="color:#AAAAFF
;">'''Ruberduck'''</span>]][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|<span style="color:#00DD00
;">'''0123'''</span>]] Yay! Now how do I apply it to my signature?  [[User:Ruberduck0123|Ruberduck0123]] 07:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Click on the ''my preferences'' link on the top right, and paste that into the box in the signature section. Make sure to check that box beneath it, or the code will appear as the text of the link. You can check it works by previewing an edit four tildes. (Basically sign your talk page, and then preview the page rather than saving it to check it works) <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 08:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::: Awesome, thanks!  [[User:Ruberduck0123|<span style="color:#DAA520 ;">'''Ruberduck'''</span>]][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|<span style="color:#999999 ;">'''0123'''</span>]] 08:11, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
== Pokémon Podcast Deleted ==
Hey.
I've been a long time user of the site, love it, it's awesome! Recently, I came across this amazing Pokémon Podcast in iTunes called {{red link|It's Super Effective}}. I was a listener to [[WTPT]] for a while, but the seemed to drop off completely this year which is sad. Anyways, since I liked It' Super Effective so much, I wanted to help out and make a page for the site. I've helped on Wikipedia before, but not this site. Made my account, started editing the page, and someone deleted it right away. Well... I was only working on the page for 2 mins or so. So I started editing it again, siting sources, linking to other Pokémon Podcasts like [[Bulbacast]] and it got deleted and blocked by {{u|Kogoro}}. She said because I didn't add any Categories, which I was planning on, it got deleted. Which I totally understand, but I was looking up code to make sure it fit the site appropriately, and she said it wasn't notable. Again, I was trying to link everything appropriately. In all honesty, I think the site is extremely notable. They do a show, if not two a week. The Podcast has been in the top 200 video game Podcasts since they launched, making it up to #12 most downloaded and they've been featured on the front page of iTunes Podcast store. That's pretty awesome and not a lot of Podcasts make it to the front page. I just wanted to help out and start an article. Their site, http://www.pokemonpodcast.com, is very legit too, they doing a new article Monday-Friday and they haven't missed a beat.
Really, I would just like the Article to be unblocked and exist because these guys rock and they love Bulbapeida, and I wanted to help them out.
Again, the site rocks! {{unsigned|Committhistomemory}}
:Talk to her about it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:55, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
== Delete. ==
[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Electric_Rock_Cave|This.]]--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 07:54, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:Way to go with your fricking link. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:55, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::What? Sorry. Cookie? http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Electric_Rock_Cave--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 07:56, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Two in a row? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:56, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Hey. Come on. Tic-tac-toe? There you go. {{red link|Talk:Electric Rock Cave}} Nobody's perfect.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 07:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Alright. I give up.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 07:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Tonight is not your night. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:20, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
== Seven Sages ==
Should it be noted that, when the [[Seven Sages]] page is created, there were seven Taoist Chinese sages that wrote poems criticizing the government/administration of the time and some became part of the Jin Dynasty? I thought it was an interesting find. I don't know if you found it already so I'm just asking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sages_of_the_Bamboo_Grove
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:If that's what they're based on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
::Do they have any similarities (in their roles or whatnot) other than the fact that there's seven of them? The Legend of Zelda also has [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Seven_Sages Seven Sages], but I don't know if we should add either basis unless there's more evidence than just their number. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 11:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I have no idea, Andy. But it seems kinda strange that in both the games and in ancient China we have seven sages that tried to make a new government (Seven sages of China criticized the government of the time, seven sages of BW tried to install N as king) and both became a part of their new government (though, N's rule was temporary). Its also worth noting that they were Taoist (Ying and Yang, etc.). But I have not researched them enough at this point to make a connection deeper than that.  Seven, Taoist sages that wanted a new government and became part of it. Whether or not you agree that may be what the sages from BW are based on, you have to admit there are some similarities. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 12:24, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I guess that sounds close enough. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 15:58, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
== Letting you know ==
If you can edit pages this would be useful. I'm just letting you know that on the [[Zoroark | Zoroark(Pokémon)]] page it says that it is unkown where Zoroark can be caught. But he can be caught out Forest of Illusions, which is east of Raimon City. So if you or someone lse could edit the page, that would be good for people trying to look for Zoroark with their [[Shiny Pokémon | shiny]] [[Legendary beasts]]. {{unsigned|Cool469}}
:Way to go with your linking, dude. {{p|Zoroark}}. THE END. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
== Hey Phattychidna ==
When you have free time, please, please come on AIM. We need to discuss this sprite template update along with the issues with the back sprites. As you can see, it's a big job, so the sooner we roll out this shiz, the faster we can get it done.
Keep it chill, <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 23:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
== The New Disambig ==
I took care of it as you requested, but I have to run and there may be a couple loose ends I forgot to tie up.  If you could have a look at it, it would be much appreciated.  Thanks.  Also, I have at least one thing I'd like to discuss with you, so we can do that soon.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#00B7EB">''P''</span> <span style="color:#008080">''o''</span>]] [[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#0095B6">''L''</span> <span style="color:#00CCCC">''i''</span>]] 19:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
: I would like to add a link to the accesory page on the Dasambig, because there is an accesory called spring. I can't do it my self because it's protected can you either unprotect it or do it for me? ([[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 20:09, 7 October 2010 (UTC))
::I don't think... anyone... searches accessory names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Better safe than sorry, I suppose. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 11:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
== Hello!!  ==
So, I'm new here and I was wondering where did you get the Pokémon of the day thing? i would love that!! Also, how do you make a table with a backrground?? I need help, and a lot f it! Please respond in my talk page!! [[User:Lovewaterpokemon|~~ Lovewaterpokemon~~ ^ _ ^ ]] 00:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Lovewaterpokemon
== Animated PNGs ==
Do they work on Firefox? I'm sure most people (like me) use IE, and they'd be incredibly pissed off. Please stop. [[User:TyphlosionBlaze|TyphlosionBlaze]] 02:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, and no, sorry. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 02:53, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::Why do you still use IE? Firefox isn't the only browser with APNG support, either. Opera has it as well. And asking me to stop using APNGs because you can't see the animation is like asking me to stop using roundycorners because you can't see them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
: I don't see why they have to stop just because you're using the wrong browser....you can easily download firefox.besides it not like you have to see the pngs...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::I don't understand why someone would get pissed over not being able to see an animated .png file. It's not like you can't still see the static image. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 04:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::And if you REALLY insist on seeing the animation, you can download the image and view it in another program. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 14:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
== Lets confirm your proof ==
''This is not a debate/argument starter''
Hey TTE, it's me again. I noticed you added some trivia to [[Generation V]] so I thought I'd ask you what made you come to the conclusion that Gen V does not take place in a similar timing to any other game. Granted, I know why it can't be part of the "Three-years after" period of Johto and Sinnoh (Cynthia, Looker and whatshername ) but I cannot see why it cannot be part of the "Main" period of Kanto and Hoenn. That is, unless I missed something. Which I may have. So, can you please tell me why you added that bit of trivia?
Unless its some secret source that ''everyone'' is supposed to believe. *eyeroll*
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
: The "main" period of Kanto and Hoenn is three years before Johto and Sinnoh. Seeing as how [[Caitlin]] has an older appearance and makes minor reference to being unable to battle, and also seeing as Cynthia talks about the Trainer who defeated Giratina, I'd say this is evidence enough that Generation V occurs after Generation II/IV, and therefore not at the same time as Generation I/III.
: Additionally, I request that you at least attempt to keep your attitude to a minimum. This may be the Internet, but nobody likes an egotistical wanker. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#FF6600">Darkeiya</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#00CCFF">talk to me!</span>]]''</small> 02:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, thank you for explaining that. Well, that crushes my hopes for Hoenn remakes this generation. Also *goes to comment on your talk page* --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Aw but '''''I''''' wanted to crush the Hoenn fan's dreams.
:::I suppose I'll just do it in song! '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:49, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
== {{template|learnlist/tutor5}} ==
What's up with it? When I enter this:
<code><nowiki>{{learnlist/tutorh|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20|Tough|0||'''|no|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}
</nowiki></code>
it comes out like this:
{{learnlist/tutorh|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20|Tough|0||'''|no|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}
Also, on {{DL|Blastoise (Pokémon)|By tutoring|this}} page, instead of the Gen V set, why do we have the Gen IV set? --<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFA500"><font face="Old English Text MT">''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Sher</span>]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Bengal</span>]]''</font></span>-</span> 10:04, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:You need to remove the contest information. Contests don't exist in Gen V, and the [[Pokémon Musical]]s don't have special move types. You also needed to change the no|no|yes into a yes|yes|no.
<code><nowiki>{{learnlist/tutorh|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20||'''|yes|yes|no}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}</nowiki></code>
{{learnlist/tutorh|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20||'''|yes|yes|no}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Kakuna|bug|poison|5|1}}
:&mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:32, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
::Alright thanks, but the {{tt|Blastoise page|at least!}} is still having problems.--<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFA500"><font face="Old English Text MT">''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Sher</span>]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Bengal</span>]]''</font></span>-</span> 11:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:::We never got around to updating it? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
== Lists of egg moves ==
I [[Special:Contributions/Smithers888|have been]] updating quite a few of the previous generation learnset pages to the new templates. Having finished the generation I pages and moved on to the generation IIs, I had the following thought, we still list moves learned by breeding on pages for evolved Pokémon which cannot be obtained by breeding. [[Talk:Pokémon breeding#Lists of egg moves|This discussion]] resolved that these were added for convenience to give the Pokémon's complete potential learnset on one page. However, it still falls short of this aim in the case of moves learned only by pre-evolutions by other means (e.g. level up).<br>
There is another issue regarding Incense breeding, e.g. the egg moves available to {{p|Azumarill}} depend on whether it was bred as an {{p|Azurill}} or a {{p|Marill}}. Any thoughts? --[[User:Smithers888|<span style="color:#FF1111;">Smit</span><span style="color:#1111FF;">hers</span>]][[User talk:Smithers888|<span style="color:#FFD733;">888</span>]] 21:33, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:Miltank man's been trying to draw up a prevo chart, but we're not final on it yet. Don't concern yourself with prevo level-up-only moves yet. We have past generation level-up, TM, and tutor moves to deal with, too. But that can all come '''''after''''' we finish the learnset upgrades, okay? And as for Azumarill, um... shit. Combine both sets for now, we'll untangle them later on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
== Notice ==
There are 4 outdated catch templates on 4 different user pages. Can I have permission to remove these outdated catch templates and if not can you do it?--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 01:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
:You could probably just subst it, unless you really want to update them. Either way, it isn't against the rules to edit their pages as long as it's only for the template update. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
::You're fine on it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
== Physiology ==
If you need any help, call me.[[Zekrom|<span style="color:#A8A878">ܥZƐkrom</span>]] [[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:#FF8000">~</span>]][[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:#FFB000">~</span>]][[Special:Contributions/444Zekrom|<span style="color:#FF8000">~</span>]] [[Reshiram|<span style="color:#B69E00">ܥRƐshiram</span>]]
== [[Template:AbilityVariations]] ==
is it ok what i do with {{a|Dry Skin}} and {{a|Herbivorous}}? so the variation can have to categories --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 12:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:What now? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:44, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
== Clickable map? ==
On Wikipedia, I've seen a feature that might be useful on the maps - some of the images have regions that, when you click on specific regions of them, send them to a certain page.
An example of that would be the following image:
Basically, my suggestion is, create some sort of template that allows you, say, click on the square for Ecruteak City, and have it take you to the page for Ecruteak City. Would that be feasible? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 17:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:That's called an image map, and yes, it is epic. I would love it if Bulbapedia had those, but I personally don't know how to make them. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 18:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::You mean something like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Sandbox#incompleted_Image_Map_for_Johto this?] <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 19:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::: we on pokewiki have all imagemaps for the five generations -> you are free to use it because we all friends XD --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 19:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::::You did them all? Well why didn't you tell us!? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::You have not asked :P. is it not me that created this: {{de|Vorlage:Map Kanto|Kanto}}, {{de|Vorlage:Map Johto|Johto}}, {{de|Vorlage:Map Hoenn|Hoenn}}, {{de|Vorlage:Map Sinnoh|Sinnoh}}, {{de|Vorlage:Map Isshu|Isshu}} and {{de|Vorlage:Map Almia|Almia}}
PS: some of the Kanto maps from your are not correct--[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 06:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:Which ones? I know we have fan-edited Gen I/III maps in the style of Gen IV... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:40, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
as sample:<!--
<gallery>
File:SilphKantoTownMap.gif|very wrong
File:MapBlackthorn.gif|bad cuted, mt silver is johto
File:Johto_Slowpoke_Well_map.gif| is the only style that is right
</gallery>-->
an idea could be to use the gifs from us (because the imagemaps are for this) --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 06:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:First one's the HGSS-styled Kanto Gen I map. Probably done for consistency with the rest of Kanto, just like the FRLG-styled Johto Gen II map I made.
:Second one's definitely wrong, because Mt. Silver isn't on that half of the map, even if it's a Johto area.
:Third is perfect. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
PS: a sample:<!--
{|
|-
!bulba
!pokewiki
|-
|[[File:Johto Blackthorn City Map.png|link=]]
|http://www.pokewiki.de/images/e/ef/Ebenholz_City.gif
|-
|[[File:Johto Route 45 Map.png|link=]]
|http://www.pokewiki.de/images/2/2c/Map_Route_45.gif
|}-->
pokewiki has different highlighting, sometimes it looks better then in the game :P --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 07:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:As close to the game as possible. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
== ? ==
Could I use Bulbanews' news on my wiki?<span style="color:blue">—<small>♫</small></span> <b>[[User:Cool469|<span style="color:red;">Cool469</span>]][[User Talk:Cool469|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b>  05:12, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
== List pages only have Snivy's English name ==
[[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|This page]] and [[List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number|this page]] have the English name for Snivy, but not Tepig or Oshawott. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 18:35, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:Taken care of, but TTE--this is what you get for having stuff protected for no good reason. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 18:42, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
::Hey, the same thing happened in 2006. I was locked out from editing the Sinnoh dexlisting. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:39, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Still, no reason to return the favour >_> [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 00:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
::::It ''so'' is. Gotta prevent doofuses from screwing things up, saying something like, I dunno, Pikachu, is number 157. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
== 'deadly'menthane ==
i tried putting something on pikamanders page, but it went into deadlymenthane's(check recent changes.).is there a similarity?----[[User:Ethan brendan lucas|<span style="color:orange">EBL</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan brendan lucas|<span style="color:red">talk to me!</span>]])''</small> 01:16, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:...uh. What? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:Deadlymethane is Pikamander2. That user had a name change in 2008. It would have been more appropriate to post it on that talk page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
== Could I? ==
Am I allowed to use [[Template:Tt]] on my wiki? <span style="color:blue">—<small>♫</small></span> <b>[[User:Cool469|<span style="color:red;">Cool469</span>]][[User Talk:Cool469|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b>  07:10, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
:If you plan on making money off it, no.
:If you don't attribute it to us, no.
:Otherwise, yeah, go ahead, use the code. It's nothing too complex anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
== Template:Item ==
Is completely broken [[List of dummied out key items|here]] for Gen I items. It seems to be a colspan problem, but since you wrote the template, I was hoping you could fix it. I'd probably break it if I tried. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:21, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
:Jello got it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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