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Is there a list somewhere detailing which Pokémon can be obtained via fishing in each game, with details on in-game locations/rods used? I'm wondering because I want to know what shinies can be obtained through chain fishing. [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Is there a list somewhere detailing which Pokémon can be obtained via fishing in each game, with details on in-game locations/rods used? I'm wondering because I want to know what shinies can be obtained through chain fishing. [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
:If you go to a location article it will list the Pokémon that can be caught by fishing in that area. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 02:50, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
::{{u|TheICTLiker4/List of fishing encounters|I created a page revolving around all fishing encounters}}. Right now, it's only about Pokémon in Generation I that can be fished up by Old and Good Rods. Please make sure the page is well contributed to, as a user can edit someone's namespace max 3 times a day. Thank you in advance. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#2b2">'''TheICT'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#22b">'''Liker4'''</span>]] 16:32, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
== Source on Triple-Obstacle Chain Fishing Gen VI (XY) ==
"If three sides are blocked, every cast will hook a Pokémon."
I have had several instances in various locations where a cast did not yield a Pokemon. It timed out and the message "Nothing seems to be biting..." appeared. This happens with two rocks adjacent a tile and a land (even if the land isn't reachable by the trainer) or three rocks adjacent a tile. This happens while fishing while surfing (the bobber is two tiles away from the trainer) and while on land (the bobber is one tile away from the trainer). This happens when casting over a rock (while surfing).
I'd like to see a source on this either way. I don't have a capture card so trying to hold my phone and surf to do this would be a pain, but if there's no source anyone has, I'll go ahead and record I suppose.
[[User:Exaskryz|Exaskryz]] ([[User talk:Exaskryz|talk]]) 03:04, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
:In short, the source is: experience. I did a total of 800 casts (in 2 or 3 different places, and most with the Super Rod but 100 with the Old Rod) in places where the bobber was closed in on three sides and ''never'' got "Nothing seems to be biting..." during those casts.
:I have recently discovered that, I think land can only close in a side if it's a beach; at the beach, the walkable land and surfable water are *right* next to each other, but in other places, there's a 1-tile, unwalkable and unsurfable border between them (normally you jump over it when you use Surf; you can explicitly test this border if you walk to the edge of land, take 1 step back, and then try to fish towards the border&mdash;it will fail).
:(Also, FWIW and perhaps related to that border: the bobber ''always'' lands 2 tiles away from the Trainer (even diagonally).)
:What exactly do you mean, "casting over a rock"? And are you saying that's the only time you experience this discrepancy with the 100% claim?
:You don't have to record a video, if you can just snap a good picture of your position and your cast, that might be informative enough. Or it might enable someone else (like me) to test that spot themselves. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:31, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
::Here's an image of casting over a rock, and another place where I don't cast over a rock (this is what I was talking about with a one-tile forward cast.) These rocks are found on Route 15 in Kalos.
::imgur.com/a/vGBQi (Couldn't hyperlink it because Wiki says to type words in a box that doesn't appear for me.)
::I run into the "Not even a nibble..." message on average around a dozen consecutive casts in these spots. Is there anything I'm doing wrong by removing items from my Pickup and Thief Pokemon between battles? Anything wrong with using O-powers (PP restoration for Thief)? Or must you have a Suction Cups/Sticky Hold ''and'' have three obstacles for the bite to be guaranteed? If it's the latter, the article does not make that clear at all.
::[[User:Exaskryz|Exaskryz]] ([[User talk:Exaskryz|talk]]) 01:44, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:::Hm, I didn't think you could cast directly over a rock like that, I'll have to double-check that (maybe it's just on Lapras).
:::Your problem is actually in your choice of spot entirely (if they're all like those two pics). Like I said above, I just recently discovered that in spots like those, the game doesn't recognize an obstacle on the third/landward side. I originally did most of my testing around beaches, and there the land ''can'' count as an obstacle.
:::A good example spot with three sides is if you go to the northwest point of [[Cyllage City]] (on the beach) and then Surf into the water and try fishing in any of those alcoves on the north between the big rocks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:57, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
== Gen VII Fishing ==
As fishing in Gen VII lets you reel in items, would adding a table containing the items one might get when fishing be an idea? [[User: Jaxon|Jaxon]] ([[User talk: Jaxon|<span style="color:#cb6b00">make fun of my</span>]] '''[[Special: Contributions/Jaxon|<span style="color:#eb0b2b">failures</span>]]''') 22:47, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
:I guess it makes sense only if they're the same across all locations. If they depend on the location (the way the Pokémon do), mentions on the location pages seem more appropriate. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 22:56, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
::If they do differ across locations, wouldn't it also make sense to combine the Pokémon and items into one fishing table? --[[User:Gp|Gp]] ([[User talk:Gp|talk]]) 07:30, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
:::Are we sure that we can only should have a table if all items can be obtained at any fishing location?  All we would need to do is add a third column to note which locations can obtain these items.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:32, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
== Bubbling spot ==
What are the odds of finding a "Bubbling spot" ? The fishing odds are different, but what are the conditions to find a bubbling spot ? [[User:Geographik0903|Geographik0903]] ([[User talk:Geographik0903|talk]]) 18:02, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
:I may be wrong, but as far as I have surmised, each area has one predetermined bubbling spot. It stops bubbling after you fish at it, and starts bubbling again when you leave the area and return. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:43, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
::Does the odds of encounter rate change, or does it remain the same even after the bubbles are gone? The article doesn't make that clear. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:31, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Based on the offical guidebook (p.104) "However, don't approach too quickly or get too close to a rare fishing spot, or it will suddenly become a regular fishing spot." [[User:ReignBough|ReignBough]] ([[User talk:ReignBough|talk]]) 10:15, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
== Generation II encounters ==
The Generation II encounter lists are gigantic and dominate the page, but don't add much value. I think just a single table, explaining which category each location falls into, would be much more compact and useful. Readers could still go to the location pages themselves to see the encounter tables. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:17, 5 July 2021 (UTC)