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In the article it says that James hasn't achieved much, but in the Chronicles episode Training Daze he and Jessie were promoted and got their white uniforms. Jessie and James are higher up than a regular Team Rocket member.  Should this be mentioned? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 23:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
In the article it says that James hasn't achieved much, but in the Chronicles episode Training Daze he and Jessie were promoted and got their white uniforms. Jessie and James are higher up than a regular Team Rocket member.  Should this be mentioned? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 23:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:They are not higher than others, in fact, Giovanni pushes them away into foreign places to get rid of them, if I remember correctly. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 23:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:They are not higher than others, in fact, Giovanni pushes them away into foreign places to get rid of them, if I remember correctly. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 23:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
He actually has achieved a lot in my opinion. He has helped save the earth at least one time, in the movie "the power of one".[[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 04:52, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


==Should we...==
==Should we...==
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::::::::::::::Considering this hasn't been a problem on this site, and this does not seem to be a big "debate" on any of the popular forums, I think we will be fine. Not to mention I don't see how anyone can call it Lavender. Lavender is almost as dark as purple, and his hair is light. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 02:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Considering this hasn't been a problem on this site, and this does not seem to be a big "debate" on any of the popular forums, I think we will be fine. Not to mention I don't see how anyone can call it Lavender. Lavender is almost as dark as purple, and his hair is light. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 02:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Really is it that hard for people to determine? First impressions, in my layman's opinion I have never thought of it as anything but blue until I saw this rant with people over-analyzing the whole thing. I feel that if I took a random cut (from the picture) of his hair and asked people its color, they would say blue with only the odd art student who could come up with crazy colors like "periwinkle" -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:08, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Really is it that hard for people to determine? First impressions, in my layman's opinion I have never thought of it as anything but blue until I saw this rant with people over-analyzing the whole thing. I feel that if I took a random cut (from the picture) of his hair and asked people its color, they would say blue with only the odd art student who could come up with crazy colors like "periwinkle" -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:08, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Just to inform you all. If you watch the episode Numero Uno Articuno you will get to know EXACTLY what color his hair is as he admits it himself. Meowth says "Don't worry your blue head" and James replies "Its not blue its Lavender" so this argument is worthless since its clearly been stated as to what his hair color is.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 17:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Correct. He says his hair IS NOT blue but Lavender. I do have a question about that though. Was this only mentioned in the English dub, or in the Japanese dub as well - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]'''</span> 18:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I remember him saying it was lavender but i thought i also remember him saying it was cyan.[[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 04:54, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


==Disguises==
==Disguises==
I noticed that on [[Jesse]] we have her in all sorts of interesting disguises, shouldn't we post some of James' too? I am not sure if he invented new names for his alter egos like she did. Most notable though is that shot from the censored TV episode where he has boobs, the controversy it created seems notable for listing it here. [[User:Tyciol|Tyciol]] 09:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that on [[Jesse]] we have her in all sorts of interesting disguises, shouldn't we post some of James' too? I am not sure if he invented new names for his alter egos like she did. Most notable though is that shot from the censored TV episode where he has boobs, the controversy it created seems notable for listing it here. [[User:Tyciol|Tyciol]] 09:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:They're alter egos. Not disguises. Jessie gets them cause she participates in contests unlike James who does nothing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 10:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:They're alter egos. Not disguises. Jessie gets them cause she participates in contests unlike James who does nothing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 10:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, James did enter a contest disguised as jessie.....[[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 17:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


== Picture ==
== Picture ==


Is it okay to put anime artwork of James in the anime section instead of the screenshot from an episode. This is the picture I was thinking about.[[File:James Anime.png|right|thumb|125px|James]] - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]</span> 14:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Is it okay to put anime artwork of James in the anime section instead of the screenshot from an episode. This is the picture I was thinking about.[[File:James anime.png|right|thumb|125px|James]] - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]</span> 14:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:A better idea, that picture should be in the infobox. James is an '''anime''' character after all. We don't see anime Brock with Sugimori work in his box. We can maybe move the Sugimori work to trivia. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:A better idea, that picture should be in the infobox. James is an '''anime''' character after all. We don't see anime Brock with Sugimori work in his box. We can maybe move the Sugimori work to trivia. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


:Course, are you sure that's official art? I see an error on it. James is missing his belt buckle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Course, are you sure that's official art? I see an error on it. James is missing his belt buckle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I got it from a [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/playground/hanten.html mini game] at the Japanese pokemon movie website. I'm assuming it's official as it's from there i guess. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]</span> 00:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Even If this picture is not satisfactory, could another picture of anime artwork of James work? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]</span> 00:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I prefer this picture myself.[[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 17:46, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
What is with James having a picture of him in a black suit? He has never worn a black suit except when in disguise? is there a place where this was discusses?[[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 17:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:it's his new outfit check the news... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
== Uniform ==
Is his new uniform considered a grunt [[Team Rocket uniform#Grunt uniform|uniform]] without the hat? Does this mean that he was demoted or something? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]'''</span> 14:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:I dout he has been demoted becsause the Boss dose not even consider them part of team rocket [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 14:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::Considering Giovanni has ordered them to take over Isshu for him, I highly doubt they have been demoted. Also, the outfits are slightly different from grunt uniforms. They are the same as their old outfits except that the white is now a dark gray and they have slightly darker gloves and boots (regular grunt uniforms are pure black). --[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 14:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
== Jame's Pokemon ==
It says James never fought before catching any of his Pokemon but in "heres looking at you elikid he goes into a flash back bout when he caught weepinbell. He used weezing to catch it. [[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 04:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Trivia Change/Removal? ==
Just noticed this trivia: "He is one of the only main characters to, after being given his first Pokémon, at one point not have any Pokémon on hand, if one doesn't count the events depicted in So Near, Yet So Farfetch'd. This was in A Poached Ego! during the brief moment after he released Weezing and before he caught Cacnea. He currently has no Pokémon with him. The other character was Ash briefly when he was traveling to Hoenn."
Now, James currently has no pokemon, and despite the aforementioned Ash incident, Jessie was also without a pokemon. So, I'm thinking that this trivia should be changed to more of a "James is the only main character to, after being given his first Pokémon, not have any Pokémon on hand for more than X amount of episodes." Currently, it'd be 6. However, it just seems redundant for the trivia to remain the way it is, seeing as Jessie, Ash, AND James have been pokemon-less in the past now. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 23:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:28, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
== James being in a lower position than Jessie ==
Is Jessie in a higher Team Rocket position than James? She has more Pokémon than James and has been recognized more in every type of media especially in Unova where she caught one Pokémon and James caught zero so far. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am moderately sure that Jessie, James, and Meowth are all Grunts, haven't caught myself up to the BW season though so I can't say for sure and if I recall correctly there were times when they weren't even Grunts as they had been kicked out a couple times. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 02:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::Nope. they all work together. At times James is more dominant and at other times Jessie is. Also just because she has a Pokemon in BW before James doesn't give her higher authority either. I am sure James will catch one in a couple of episodes from now. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 03:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
== James' Nummel ==
According to [[AG053]] James had owned or at least befriended about 6 Nummel when he was younger. There's even a picture shown... I just dont know how to upload the picture.
== Yamask. ==
Why isn't Yamask in the Pokemon or (on hand) section? and it looks like he captures a Amoongus in Series N but that will be kept to later.
Same for Jessie and Woobat. and capturing of Frillish. Captures left to a later date obviously. [[User:Prinben|Prinben]] ([[User talk:Prinben|talk]]) 12:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
:I looked at the article and noticed there is no "on hand" section instead there is [[James#Pok.C3.A9mon currently owned|currently owned]] section, which Yamask is in fact on. I guess that happened because having just one Pokémon in the hand section isn't good enough. I don't know, I think it would have been better as at hand section. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 17:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
::There's no on hand section because we don't know if Yamask is still with James or not due to the trio leaving Team Rocket. To be safe, we changed it to "currently owned" so it would be less speculative. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 20:40, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Can I just ask, when was the trio leaving/left team rocket? can someone just fill me in here?[[User:Prinben|Prinben]] ([[User talk:Prinben|talk]]) 11:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
== Carnivine and Nummel  ==
James said he had these Pokemon as a child. hows that possible? if those Pokemon were not yet discovered when he was a kid. {{unsigned|Archerboy58}}
:The discovering part only applies to us, not the anime. Besides, games=/=anime. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 22:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
== Age is 25? ==
On their respective pages, it says that Jessie and James are 25 as of M02. But I've looked around and haven't found any mention of their ages in relation to that movie. I doubt this is true, so I was wondering if anyone knew of any sources confirming this? [[User:The Tomboyish Mermaid|The Tomboyish Mermaid]] ([[User talk:The Tomboyish Mermaid|talk]]) 10:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
:Just to avoid further confusion before anyone asks: the main discussion about their ages is in [[Talk:Jessie#Age is 25?|the talk page for Jessie]], as most of the clues we get are in relation to her. In the anime, James' age is said to be the same as Jessie's by extension. {{unsigned|Gabo 2oo}}
== Still owns Cacnea? ==
I don't really think he still owns Cacnea. The narrator said that his story with Cacnea had come to an end - generally when a Pokemon is put into training there's some "for now" that implies they could come back. I'd say "given away" is more accurate. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 17:31, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
:Hellooooo?
:Also, here's another point - the specific reason for Gardenia taking Cacnea was to teach it Drain Punch, but even though we know it's learned Drain Punch from Barry, she still hasn't returned it. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 18:16, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
::Ash also left Primeape to train with Anthony for the next P1 Grand Prix, and hasn't gotten him back yet. Yet Primeape is still considered Ash's in-training. Squirtle was sent back to Vermillion City to lead the Squirtle Squad, and he's still listed as in-training. Same thing goes for Cacnea. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 18:20, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
:::But there's evidence that they are still technically Ash's Pokemon.
:::Primeape left for a very specific type of training that we don't know if it is yet completed. Also, the narrator stated he may come back, didn't he?
:::Squirtle has actually been seen returning, like Gliscor and Charizard - the difference being that he went back to his "training" while Charizard and Gliscor went to the lab.
:::The closest thing to Cacnea leaving for a specific reason was to learn Drain Punch, which, per Barry, he has learned, yet he's still with Gardenia being used full-time as her own gym Pokemon. And the narrator specifically said James and Cacnea's story has come to an end - that's a very definite "won't be coming back". And he hasn't been seen coming back, unlike Squirtle, Gliscor, or Charizard. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 20:59, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
== Inaccurate trivia ==
"James is the only main character to have one Pokémon and release/give it away, then get another Pokémon of the same species." Dawn's Pachirisu. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 18:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
:I think it is referring to another Pokémon, not the same one, as Pachirisu was the same one she released, while James got a different Weepinbell.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
==surname Morgan==
I noticed this shows up in https://books.google.ca/books?id=ub4zAQAAIAAJ&dq=%22james+morgan%22
Anyone know where this might have originated? [[User:Tyciol|ty]] ([[User talk:Tyciol|talk]]) 20:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
:Either way, it's not official.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
== Hair color ==
The infobox says James's hair is lavender... to me, at least, it's very clearly not lavender. I suggest changing it to periwinkle. [https://www.gardendesign.com/pictures/images/900x705Max/site_3/english-lavender-lavandula-angustifolia-garden-design_11716.jpg Here is a picture of lavender], and [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Vinca_minor_Nashville.jpg/1200px-Vinca_minor_Nashville.jpg here is a picture of periwinkle]. Lavender is a much more violet color than the color of James's hair, whereas periwinkle is more of a light blue, like James's hair. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 20:16, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
* I compared the picture directly with the colors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_purple) under shades of blue and it appears to be between Cornflower blue and Glaucous.
[[User:HarmonytheRocketEeveon|HarmonytheRocketEeveon]] ([[User talk:HarmonytheRocketEeveon|talk]]) 16:32, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
::I think that periwinkle is a better term because it's much more well known. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 19:32, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
:::True, so it's like a slightly darker Periwinkle. [[User:HarmonytheRocketEeveon|HarmonytheRocketEeveon]] ([[User talk:HarmonytheRocketEeveon|talk]]) 14:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)