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*They both carry that pack over their shoulders. | *They both carry that pack over their shoulders. | ||
Trivia-worthy? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 03:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC) | Trivia-worthy? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 03:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:If you wanna talk overall similarities between the two, there are '''a lot'''. In the anime, they both meet Ash by knocking him off his feet (Barry ran into him; Bianca fell over a rock, thus sending both Cilan and Ash flying into a lake... or whatever). The first time they meet Ash also involves a badge case (Barry loses his when he runs into Ash; Bianca is delivering one). Other similarities would include the first letter of their name (in english, anyway), and the fact that they are both rivals (in the games, possibly in the anime). Their dads actually appear in the games [and possibly in the anime] (Palmer is a frontier brain, Bianca's dad drags her away from training in the game... if I'm correct). Not sure if this information is of any use but.... XD. I'm new at this, if that wasn't evident. Embrace my noobiness ;P.--[[User:BabyRuRu|BabyRuRu]] 03:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Move to "Bianca" == | == Move to "Bianca" == | ||
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Thanks in the future. [[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 01:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | Thanks in the future. [[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 01:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:We already have another {{ | :We already have another {{mov|Bianca}} this one isn't going anywhere. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#00AF33;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#0098d9;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#F8D030;">'''Pikachu!'''</span>]] 05:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
::I suggest that now "Bianca" has been moved to "Bianca (movie)", this one should be moved to "Bianca", as she is far more notable than a movie character. In addition, she is not exclusive to the games; she has appeared in both the anime and the manga too. There are no old links regarding movie Bianca linking to Bianca, as I fixed any remaining. There are other incidences where one character is more notable than a CotD (which is what movie characters are) and is at the page itself, leaving a note with {{template|search}} at the top. If not "Bianca", at the very least, she should be moved to {{red link|Bianca (Unova)}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | ::I suggest that now "Bianca" has been moved to "Bianca (movie)", this one should be moved to "Bianca", as she is far more notable than a movie character. In addition, she is not exclusive to the games; she has appeared in both the anime and the manga too. There are no old links regarding movie Bianca linking to Bianca, as I fixed any remaining. There are other incidences where one character is more notable than a CotD (which is what movie characters are) and is at the page itself, leaving a note with {{template|search}} at the top. If not "Bianca", at the very least, she should be moved to {{red link|Bianca (Unova)}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::To be perfectly honest, I wasn't implying any of this. I just was expecting a simple replacement, from "Bel (game)" to "Bianca (game)". However with what ya'll said, I wouldn't mind the change to simply be "Bianca". --[[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 20:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | :::To be perfectly honest, I wasn't implying any of this. I just was expecting a simple replacement, from "Bel (game)" to "Bianca (game)". However with what ya'll said, I wouldn't mind the change to simply be "Bianca". --[[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 20:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::I disagree leaving Bianca where she is now is consistent with the other rivals such as Barry, Blue, etc. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#00AF33;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#0098d9;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#F8D030;">'''Pikachu!'''</span>]] 20:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | ::::I disagree leaving Bianca where she is now is consistent with the other rivals such as Barry, Blue, etc. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#00AF33;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#0098d9;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#F8D030;">'''Pikachu!'''</span>]] 20:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::::The other rivals have separate articles for their anime/manga counterparts, so calling them "game" is fine. Bianca only has one article, and all of her counterparts are here, so she is not exclusive to the games. Also, [[Wally]] doesn't get "(game)", probably because of his manga appearance. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 00:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC) | :::::The other rivals have separate articles for their anime/manga counterparts, so calling them "game" is fine. Bianca only has one article, and all of her counterparts are here, so she is not exclusive to the games. Also, [[Wally]] doesn't get "(game)", probably because of his manga appearance. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 00:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::::I don't mean to perpetuate this, but say for example Bianca's anime counterpart gets more screentime and becomes a full rival, like Barry did. In such a case, we would have to separate the game and anime pages anyway. Given her status as a game character, I'd be very surprised if Bianca didn't show up again in the anime. Just my two cents. [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 05:19, 15 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::She's not Ash's rival, yet. We are going to wait for more appearances before we even go there. She could just be another {{an|Casey}}. Anyway, SnorlaxMonster has a point. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 05:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::We can't say, will she, or will she not, thus there is no reason to leave this article with wrong name just because of assumption. If eventually anime Bianca will grow into notable character, the article will be splited. Bulbapedia works with present, as far as I understand, not with possible future. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 13:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::If her anime counterpart appears often enough, she would deserve her own page. However, at the moment, she only has one page, which is titled as if she is exclusive to the games. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I just don't get it. This article has a well written anime section along with a manga section and still, its name is "Bianca (game)", doesn't make any sense. Just Bianca would be nice till we have a separate anime article for her. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 14:31, 17 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Having a disambag doesn't make any sense for only two entries. That is what the "This article is about x. For y, see here" template is for. This Bianca appears as a main character in the games and various manga, and also appears in the anime. The other Bianca only appears in one movie. This article should be moved to [[Bianca]] with a hatnote placed. <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 19:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
*I agree with moving it to just "Bianca". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 14:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
::I honestly would like to leave this at it is as of now, since this Bianca is the best known counterpart overall, if Bianca shows up in the anime more often, like {{an|Barry}} or even [[Ritchie]], then I would agree to separate this article onto two. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #3B7EAD"><b>Masatoshi</b></span>]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #1f1f1f"><small>''talk''</small></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|<sup><span style="color: #2E6287">''contribs''</span></sup>]] 14:01, 29 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes, she could have an anime article if she appears often enough, but we would likely end up doing it like [[Brock]] and [[Brock (anime)]] due to the manga anyway. This article is not only the game Bianca, so it should not be titled as if it were. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::Exactly. This is not a game only character, thus the (game) tag is misleading. At the very least, this should be moved to (Unova), but this character is going to be more popular then the (movie) Bianca, so she needs to have prominence, and have a "Did you mean ___" notice at the top asking the reader if they meant to look for "Bianca (movie)". That is how things are handled when only 2 instances of a name occur. <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 14:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::That would be the best way to go about this. Even if Bianca got a Bianca (anime) page, this should still be at Bianca since it has a manga section as well. [[User:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000099">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''M'''</span>]] 17:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::I also agree for the move to just Bianca for now considering she is a new character and it is better to wait until more information to pile through before newer pages for Bianca are created. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 17:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::So what are the final thoughts? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 18:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::(Once again I'm ignored) In my opinion, this article is not just about Biance in the game, it is about Biance in general and so the article should be named Bianca, or even Bianca (Unova), for now. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 00:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Just throwing in my vote that I think the disambig should be dropped. This article so far comprehensively includes game, manga and anime information. If we had a seperate page for anime, I'd consider leaving it as is, but I think it should be moved. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 04:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::CharacterDex <strike>Co-Head</strike> Head Psy wouldn't mind it being Bianca. The movie Bianca, as important as she is in the movie, is just that, a movie character. Rival Bianca is more important than her. Just my little two cents <strike>and judgement</strike>. --[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''P S Y'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 07:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Munny == | |||
In the games, when (SPOILER) [[Team Plasma]] kidnaps her {{p|Munna}}, Bianca refers to it as ''Munny'', however it has no nickname in later battles of course. Is is trivia worthy? — ∀<tt>[[User:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>ЫъГѣ</u></span>]] ∃[[User_talk:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>Talk page</u></span>]]</tt> 17:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Name Section == | |||
The description of her Japanese name says it may be related to the "prefix -''bel''". If it were a prefix, it would be ''bel-'', but I don't know if it is a prefix and the hyphen should be moved, or if it's actually a suffix and the hyphen is in the right place.[[User:Geekvixen|Geekvixen]] 06:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC) | |||
== This and Cheren's title == | |||
Shouldn't they have "(game)" at the end of their title like [[Silver (game)]]? {{unsigned|Pikachu Bros.}} | |||
:Nope, because it doesn't just cover her in the games. Includes manga as well. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:11, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::OK. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:cyan">Pikachu Bros.</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:red">talk</span>]])</small> 17:13, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Manga Pokemon infobox== | |||
The infobox about her Pokemon in Be a Master!! Pokémon BW leads to Pokemon Adventures article about her Oshawott. Could someone fix it or is it intentional? [[User:Ariano|Ariano]] 11:15, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I would think we're trying to turn Bianca's Oshawott into a collective page, similar to how [[Cilan's Pansage]] (for example) has info from the anime, games, and two different manga. But you might have to ask {{u|Zesty Cactus}} who is the lead head of the manga. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 14:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Glasses...? == | |||
Is it just me, or is that Cheren's glasses she's wearing in B2/W2? ''Drakko'' 21:26, 24 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
:No one knows. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:29, 24 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
::The frames are different. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 06:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
== 1st Official Female Rival == | |||
If your a guy whose played sapphire ruby or emerald May was your rival. But if you're a girl(like me)you know Brendan was your rival but in black and white if your boy or girl Bianca is one your rivals. Trivia worthy? {{Unsigned|Rusa11|21:12, 13 June 2012}} | |||
:Since you could have female rivals in Gen III and Gen IV too, no, it's not trivia worthy. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:16, 13 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
May is not an official rival because she is only the rival IF YOU ARE A GUY. Which may be hard for you to believe but are not all pokemon fans and who in Gen IV?[[User:Rusa11|Rusa11]] ([[User talk:Rusa11|talk]]) 00:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
:May is still an official rival, regardless if you only get her half of the time. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 00:24, 16 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
Ok can I at leased put Bianca as the first fem rival if you are a girl. Or something like that.[[User:Rusa11|Rusa11]] ([[User talk:Rusa11|talk]]) 00:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Nope. Been stated by two other users that it is not trivia worthy in the slightest. I have to agree. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 00:57, 16 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Not to mention personal gender means nothing. There are plenty of people out there (like myself) who play as both the Male and Female characters. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:59, 16 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
I met play as a girl not if you are a girl. And okay, understood.[[User:Rusa11|Rusa11]] ([[User talk:Rusa11|talk]]) 16:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Animated sprite == | |||
Shouldn't Bianca's sprite be animated like Cheren's and N's (although it seems like the sprites on their pages are static images too)? And the sprite of Bianca on her page right now is from the introduction (the part after you select and name your character) [[User:Alishere|Alishere]] ([[User talk:Alishere|talk]]) 21:50, 20 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Age? == | |||
I was wondering why, exactly, the sidebar states her age is 10 in BW, and 12 in BW2. It was stated numerous times even before the release that her age is at least older than the previous protagonists, and just looking at the picture of her makes it clear she is not a 10 year old. I've never seen a 10 year old with hips like that. Just because trainers usually receive their first pokemon when they're 10 doesn't automatically mean Bianca is 10. [[User:Noka|Noka]] ([[User talk:Noka|talk]]) 18:33, 27 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Note the + sign next to the 10 and 12. It means she's '''at least''' that age. Could be 14, 16, or even 18. We don't know. The reason it's there is because Cheren said he knew Bianca for 10 years in BW. Since 2 years passed in BW2, he's known her for 12 years. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 19:03, 27 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Not Professor== | |||
Could it be added in the trivia that Bianca is the only (former) rival that give the starting Pokémon to the trainer and not the professor or did somebody (not rival) did this already? | |||
==Bianca's age== | |||
how its possible ???? Bianca is 10 yo in BW and 12 yo in BW2 ????? who said that ?????, Bianca 's age looks like a 16 years old girl aprox, the main characters are teenagers (Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren and Bianca), her body not looks like a 10 years old | |||
sorry for my english, but, spanish is my language ;) {{unsigned|DarkTrainer}} | |||
:It doesn't say that. It says that she is '''at least''' 10 and 12 in the games. That's why the plus is there. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:11, 10 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Potential trivia addition == | |||
Would it be trivia-worthy that Bianca and Cheren are the only characters whose teams can be influenced by starter choice in a previous game? | |||
[[User:Gadvac|Gadvac]] ([[User talk:Gadvac|talk]]) 04:20, 19 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Move? == | |||
Should the article be moved to "Bianca (game)"? --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 12:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC) | |||