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:::: Particularly in regard to berries, the item list seems incomplete...several berries are supposedly found in Amity Square (like [[Durin Berry]] and [[Watmel Berry]], to name 2)) but aren't on the list at all. --[[User:Maki|Maki]] 10:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC) | :::: Particularly in regard to berries, the item list seems incomplete...several berries are supposedly found in Amity Square (like [[Durin Berry]] and [[Watmel Berry]], to name 2)) but aren't on the list at all. --[[User:Maki|Maki]] 10:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::I agree. I just found a Rabuta Berry walking around with Drifloon and was scratching my head for a moment. -- | :::::I agree. I just found a Rabuta Berry walking around with Drifloon and was scratching my head for a moment. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Chris]] 09:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::::I was gonna say the same thing about berries not listed- my Skitty found a Rabuta Berry! {{unsigned|KazeHaru Hime}} | |||
== Mr. Backlot? == | == Mr. Backlot? == | ||
I think one of the townspeople in Hearthome City says that Mr. Backlot (the owner of the mansion and the Trophy Garden) also owns Amity Square. I'm not sure, though...anyway, should this be added?? | I think one of the townspeople in Hearthome City says that Mr. Backlot (the owner of the mansion and the Trophy Garden) also owns Amity Square. I'm not sure, though...anyway, should this be added?? {{unsigned|Maki}} | ||
:Yes, someone does mention that. I agree that it should be added, but under the "Trivia" section. | :Yes, someone does mention that. I agree that it should be added, but under the "Trivia" section. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">S</span><span style="color: #554535">h</span><span style="color: #887868">i</span><span style="color: #BBAB9B">n</span><span style="color: #EEDECE">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">?</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">!</span>]]</sup> 13:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Added. Cheers. -- | ::Added. Cheers. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Chris]] 09:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Watmel Berry == | == Watmel Berry == | ||
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::Here's some examples. | ::Here's some examples. | ||
::[[ | ::[[:a:File:Amityturtwig.png]] [[:a:File:Amitygrotle.png]] [[:a:File:Amitytorterra.png]] | ||
::See? All of them are the same resolution: 32×32. | ::See? All of them are the same resolution: 32×32. | ||
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::Now, here are some others. | ::Now, here are some others. | ||
::[[ | ::[[:a:File:Amitypikachu.png]] [[:a:File:Amityclefairy.png]] [[:a:File:Amitysyduck.png]] | ||
::See? They're all different resolutions. What I was saying is, we should resize all of them to be 32×32. [[User:Chocolate|<font color="6D351A">Chocolate</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Chocolate|<font color="6D351A">Chat with Me</font>]])</small> 23:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC) | ::See? They're all different resolutions. What I was saying is, we should resize all of them to be 32×32. [[User:Chocolate|<font color="6D351A">Chocolate</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Chocolate|<font color="6D351A">Chat with Me</font>]])</small> 23:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
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== Berry man == | == Berry man == | ||
There's a man in the Platinum Amity Square that gives out berries in fives. Should it be mentioned in the article? | There's a man in the Platinum Amity Square that gives out berries in fives. Should it be mentioned in the article? {{unsigned|Kaisi}} | ||
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:Each hut has three warp points: one straight ahead, one on the right and one on the left. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 06:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC) | :Each hut has three warp points: one straight ahead, one on the right and one on the left. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 06:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Oh okay thanks, I didn't read that carefully. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 06:38, 10 May 2009 (UTC) | ::Oh okay thanks, I didn't read that carefully. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 06:38, 10 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
== That big FR/LG-style map - WTF? == | |||
What is that big FR/LG style fanmade map doing there? I can't seem to find a way to delete it! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:It should be deleted on the Archives; the location infobox template had it on set name. A user randomly uploaded that image. '''[[User:Kevzo8|<font color="#B69E00">K</font><font color="#DAA520">e</font><font color="#FFCB49">v</font>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<font color="#E3E3E3">z</font><font color="#C0C0C0">o</font><font color="#93abc3">8</font>]]''' 09:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Items == | |||
Platinum update please. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 17:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== [[Belue Berry]] == | |||
My Clefairy picked up one of them, but I don't know what the rarity should be. (It was shiny, if that helps)--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="black">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 23:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
My surf, volt tackle Pikachu from PBR picked up a Magost berry in Diamond I'm not sure about the rarity but it was the second item picked up (first was brown fluff). [[User:Mark342|Mark342]] 22:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Starters == | |||
can someone help me; i can supply the info of the starters for platinum version but i cannot sort out the rarity,i will be useing torterra so all items are for that so far ive got: | |||
Brown fluff x2 | |||
Round pebble x4 | |||
Green scale x2 | |||
Glitter boulder x1 | |||
Shed horn x1 | |||
can other people go around and post their 10 results please | |||
==Image== | |||
If anyone has the chance, please upload a picture of the map from Diamond and Pearl. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Drifloon berry rarity == | |||
I have doubts that the rarity of berries are ''rare'' at all for Drifloon. I haven't done extensive testing, but berries seem a lot more common than some accessories listed as 'common'. I was finding a purple scale a few weeks ago and here are the results:<br /> | |||
belue berry - 3, | |||
black beard - 5, | |||
cornn berry - 7, | |||
durin berry - 1, | |||
magost berry - 6, | |||
narrow leaf - 1, | |||
narrow scale - 4, | |||
nomel berry - 10, | |||
pamtre berry - 1, | |||
purple scale - 1, | |||
rabuta berry - 10, | |||
red feather - 1, | |||
spelon berry - 1, | |||
watmel berry - 4, | |||
white moustache - 5, | |||
yellow feather - 3. | |||
Two berries got a massive 15.8% occurrence rate each, and berries overall occurred 68% of the time. Interestingly though, I seemed to get berries more often the longer I was in there. This might be luck, though, or perhaps the more accessories you have, the less the chance of finding them. -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 07:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
:It seems I was mistaking psyduck's list for drifloon's here, but the post still stands for editors with permissions to edit (I can't). Nearly the whole list is missing, and I think it could do with a huge makeover. -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 07:42, 26 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I've unprotected the page. Do what you can. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks for unprotecting. I'll add the items shortly but won't touch the rarity. My reasons being that I think the items are assigned probability rates when a Pokemon enters the zone. I went to test it again (data set 1), I tested 50 items, then left the zone and reentered with the same drifloon for another 50 (data set 2) | |||
{| | |||
| Name || colspan="2" style="padding-right:20px;text-align:center;background-color:blue;color:white;font-weight:bold;"| Data set 1 ||colspan="2" style="padding-left:20px;text-align:center;background-color:green;color:white;font-weight:bold;"| Data set 2 ||class="sortable" style="background-color:grey;color:white;font-weight:bold;"|1:2 | |||
|- | |||
|spelon||7||14%||1||2%||7.00 | |||
|- | |||
|narrow leaf||6||12%||1||2%||6.00 | |||
|- | |||
|pamtre||4||8%||2||4%||2.00 | |||
|- | |||
|watmel||2||4%||1||2%||2.00 | |||
|- | |||
|durin||6||12%||5||10%||1.20 | |||
|- | |||
|rabuta||3||6%||3||6%||1.00 | |||
|- | |||
|purple scale||1||2%||1||2%||1.00 | |||
|- | |||
|magost||10||20%||11||22%||0.90 | |||
|- | |||
|nomel||6||12%||7||14%||0.86 | |||
|- | |||
|cornn||5||10%||13||26%||0.38 | |||
|- | |||
|shed claw||0||0%||3||6%||-- | |||
|- | |||
|narrow scale||0||0%||1||2%||-- | |||
|- | |||
|belue||0||0%||1||2%||-- | |||
|} | |||
Cornn and spelon berry (and perhaps narrow leaf) seem especially affected, and rabuta berry too if the first data set is included. -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 05:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
According to the posted lists, this isn't supposed to be possible, but, uh, apparently it is. | |||
== Shroomish can find a big leaf in pearl? == | |||
Shroomish found a big leaf in amity square on my Pearl version, literally 10 minutes ago. That's not on the list, and unfortunately I cannot venture to guess at it's rarity. unless someone wants to crack open the coding of amity square, that's all I've got on that, beyond a screenshot for proof. | |||
Attached screenshot for authenticity sake. | |||
Well... apparently I'm not "auto-confirmed" yet, so i cant upload my image. Anyone want to give me a backdoor into that? | |||
{{Red link|File:bigleaferror.jpg}} | |||
^^ until I can actually ADD that, I suppose I'll just place the big leaf into the list shared by Pikachu and Shroomish. I'm going to venture to guess that, since nobody else seems to have noticed it, it should go under the rare category. If someone wants more out of this, they can get it so that i can upload my image. | |||
[[User:Qprime|Qprime]] ([[User talk:Qprime|talk]]) 05:46, 24 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
Starting to think Shroomish might have simply been mis-grouped. I just got a blue feather, blue scale, rabuta berry, and white beard. NONE of which shrromish are supposed to be able to find, according to the current list. Other then the rabuta berry, this actually seems to more closely match Jigglypuffs list. Go Figure. I'll hold off on any more changes until this gets looked at for a few days. | |||
[[User:Qprime|Qprime]] ([[User talk:Qprime|talk]]) 06:01, 24 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Possible accessories for each Pokemon == | |||
I updated the wiki page with new accurate data for Pokemon Platinum. I used an emulator with cheat engine and a bot to get a very big drop sample for each Pokemon. Every Pokemon has a drop table of 10 accessories. Certain accessories are more rare than others. You can't own more than 9 copies of the same accessories. The Pokemon will give a berry instead of giving a 10th copy. This means once you have 9 copies of each of the 10 possible accessories, all you can get is berries. All Pokemon give all berries from Cornn to Belue. Trainer Id and Secret Trainer id doesn't affect the accessories. Drop rates for Diamond and Pearl are different. | |||
[[User:RainingChain|RainingChain]] ([[User talk:RainingChain|talk]]) 00:18, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Can you ''only'' get the Berries if you have 9 copies of an Accessory already? Or, like, if you only have 1 of each Accessory, would it be possible to pick up a Berry? | |||
:Also, why did you remove the rarity information entirely? You said you had a large sample (how big?); can you tell us anything about the rates? Or is there maybe a problem, like you didn't track your data well enough to separate when one thing was at max? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:41, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::You can get berries at any time. I've got a berry as my first item once while having no accessories. Some accessories are more rare than others, but not by much. Normally, one of the ten accessories is about x5 more rare than the others. Other accessories have similar rates. I don't believe it's really useful information but I do have the statistics for that if you want. With my setup, I get 1 accessory per second. About the sample size, I ran the bot until I've got 9 copies of all accessories so it's pretty big (around a couple thousand). [[User:RainingChain|RainingChain]] ([[User talk:RainingChain|talk]]) 22:40, 31 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::A relative rarity is good to note. If you can put your results somewhere like pastebin or something, I can see if I can make anything useful of them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC) | |||