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{{indent}}[[Ash's Unfezant]] and {{AP|Scraggy}}, [[Cilan's Pansage]], [[Iris's Axew]] and [[Serena's Braixen]] have all been distributed with predetermined Natures. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 20:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | {{indent}}[[Ash's Unfezant]] and {{AP|Scraggy}}, [[Cilan's Pansage]], [[Iris's Axew]] and [[Serena's Braixen]] have all been distributed with predetermined Natures. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 20:02, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
:I myself just verified the event for [[List of Wi-Fi Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Ash's Scraggy|Ash's Scraggy]]. Korea also got one. I know of the Braizen, and am aware that Pansage and Axew got them as well. I don't know about the Unfezant (EDIT: It was distributed as a baby Pidove in an Egg, that be why). [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | :I myself just verified the event for [[List of Wi-Fi Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Ash's Scraggy|Ash's Scraggy]]. Korea also got one. I know of the Braizen, and am aware that Pansage and Axew got them as well. I don't know about the Unfezant (EDIT: It was distributed as a baby Pidove in an Egg, that be why). [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
::You definitely have a good point (as you noted above) that we need to be consistent. The main reason I think we should put all of the | ::You definitely have a good point (as you noted above) that we need to be consistent. The main reason I think we should put all of the Natures in is that it just doesn't make sense to me to include event-exclusive Abilities/genders but not Natures. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 20:15, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::I feel like Aggron989 made a good point with this page being about every aspect of "Ash's Pikachu", despite it being primarily about the anime. Since we list event based abilities and genders, as well as the fact that there's a nature parameter listed in the template itself, leads me to believe that it would be acceptable to list those natures in the infobox. Consistency however is important, but I feel like if we list one of the three (gender, ability, nature) then all of the three should be listed, or not at all. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 20:18, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | :::I feel like Aggron989 made a good point with this page being about every aspect of "Ash's Pikachu", despite it being primarily about the anime. Since we list event based abilities and genders, as well as the fact that there's a nature parameter listed in the template itself, leads me to believe that it would be acceptable to list those natures in the infobox. Consistency however is important, but I feel like if we list one of the three (gender, ability, nature) then all of the three should be listed, or not at all. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 20:18, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::I see what you are saying. However, I point out again how many "Unknown" entries there would be. We already have that in several for Ability where it's just not known ([[Ash's Krookodile]] and [[Ash's Palpitoad]] are two recent examples from Unova). The more Unknown entries we have right there at the article introduction, the more we look like we don't know what we're talking about, you know what I mean? Personally, I'd be in favour of removing all "Unknown" entries for abilities and leaving only those confirmed in there (gender is an exception, it should stay even if unknown). That might also give leeway for Nature to be added to just the few confirmed in the games; however, they might have just been added for the games, and are not necessarily what the Pokémon has. It would be best to use the game nature against the personality and characteristics section to see if it matches. Even then, I'd leave it there. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | ::::I see what you are saying. However, I point out again how many "Unknown" entries there would be. We already have that in several for Ability where it's just not known ([[Ash's Krookodile]] and [[Ash's Palpitoad]] are two recent examples from Unova). The more Unknown entries we have right there at the article introduction, the more we look like we don't know what we're talking about, you know what I mean? Personally, I'd be in favour of removing all "Unknown" entries for abilities and leaving only those confirmed in there (gender is an exception, it should stay even if unknown). That might also give leeway for Nature to be added to just the few confirmed in the games; however, they might have just been added for the games, and are not necessarily what the Pokémon has. It would be best to use the game nature against the personality and characteristics section to see if it matches. Even then, I'd leave it there. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::I've observed in other infoboxes that there are some things left out entirely if unknown and some where the word "unknown" is actually entered into it. Personally, I think Nature should be the only one of the three that is left out entirely if it's not confirmed, because as was pointed out earlier, it's the only one of the three that hasn't been addressed in the anime. Since it is the anime infobox, maybe we could make that distinction by not putting "Unknown" on every Pokémon's page, but still putting it in if it exists? This is getting kind of complicated... I do see where you're coming from, though. I'm honestly not sure which method would follow Bulbapedia convention more closely. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 20:39, 19 May 2015 (UTC) | |||