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:I'm with you. [[User:Pressthebutton|Pressthebutton]] 16:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | :I'm with you. [[User:Pressthebutton|Pressthebutton]] 16:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Our policy is to give Pokemon articles if it gets some significant amount of focus on it. All Bisharp has done is battle and has shown little to no personality, which means it's not very notable right now. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ::Our policy is to give Pokemon articles if it gets some significant amount of focus on it. All Bisharp has done is battle and has shown little to no personality, which means it's not very notable right now. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
== I'm gonna be the one to bring it up... == | |||
Georgia's Beartic, does it deserve a page? Two influencial battles with Excadrill, a battle in the Don Battle and it helped clear all that moss, saving Iris and co. If the writing for the battles are fleshed out a bit the History section will be strong and Beartic also showed personality in each of its appearances, so what are we thinkin'? [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 12:48, 2 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
:"''If the writing for the battles are fleshed out a bit the History section''"... That part worries me. It may end up looking like a bit stetchy article, like we are trying way too hard to prove a point. If there is nothing much to tell then I don't see a reason to "flesh/flash" anything. Even Paul's Weavile is more notable than Georgia's Beartic. So, it is a 'no', as far as my opinion is concerned. <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 13:06, 2 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Doesn't every rival have a page for their main Pokémon? And besides, since this topic was last discussed, Beartic has appeared in the Junior Cup thingy too. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] ([[User talk:Dilophosaurus Rex|talk]]) 00:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::The only Unova Rival (besides Goergia) who doesn't have at least 1 Pokémon with their own page is Burgundy. Beartic with its own page would be nice because there are a lot of things that could be discussed in the History Section. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 00:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Just to answer Dilophosaurus, Bianca's Emboar didn't have a page for a long time. Even if it's their main Pokémon, they aren't guaranteed a page unless they do something. Looking at Georgia's page, all of her Pokémon could get pages in my opinion. If a Pokémon has an episode focused on it (i.e. Her Vanilluxe), it could get a page. (That doesn't mean make a page for her other Pokémon. That's just me nudging the idea.) <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::Well, yes, that was because Bianca's Minccino did more. But Beartic is Georgia's main Pokémon AND it's done the most (by far) out of all of her Pokémon. I'd say that if Paul's Magmortar and Trip's Conkeldurr get pages of their own, then Beartic should get one too. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] ([[User talk:Dilophosaurus Rex|talk]]) 01:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::You are forgetting that Georgia isn't exactly the same as Trip or Paul. They are/were the main rival of the series while Georgia is not. Conkeldurr also stood out far more than most of Trip's Pokémon. Beartic isn't that far ahead of Bisharp. Anyway, I'm thinking about it and someone has a page in the works. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 04:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
Can we give Beartic a page now??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 17:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I'm sure we'll have to. It's her main Pokémon, it was included in '''all''' of Georgia's appearances (except the Clubsplosion), and it even helped Ash and co. clear all the moss in the Ferroseed episode. It made more appearances and did more notable things than either Magmortar or Conkeldurr (both mentioned above), and if they can have pages, I really don't see why Beartic wouldn't. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 22:16, 19 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Japanese name origin == | |||
I think it could be drawing inspiartion the character of ''Asuka Langley Soryu'' from ''Neon Genesis Evangelion''. Mainly because her middle name is Langley and ''Soryu'', although not exactly written the same as the town in which Iris is a Gym Leader, has the meaning of ''green dragon''. | |||
[[User:Renoir|Renoir]] ([[User talk:Renoir|talk]]) 04:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Georgia's Vanilluxe's gender == | |||
Excuse me, but how do you know Georgia's vanilluxe is a female? Do you have any prove if she (really) is female, considering that vanilluxe have no gender difference? {{unsigned|CallMeRandomThings~}} | |||
:Maybe because Ash's Oshawott is confirmed to be male, therefore Vanilluxe is female. And Don't bring up Charla and Ash's Charizard, neither of their genders are known.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 13:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Iris said it was, apparently. I haven't seen the episode in a while. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Georgia&diff=1687079&oldid=1680655 The summary]. As for Oshawott, let is not forget [[Misha|Purrloin]]. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 21:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Just to answer ForceFire, Charla is indeed female (she wears a pink bow, has a girl's name in both the original and the dub, and Liza even said so herself). Of course that's not relevant here, but I just thought I'd clear that up. | |||
:::As for Vanilluxe, I don't recall Iris saying that she's female, and even if she did, it's most likely an assumption since Iris wouldn't know herself (like Pansage and Krokorok). But Vanilluxe was clearly in love with Axew, and Oshawott fell in love with her. It wouldn't make any sense if Vanilluxe was also male (for obvious reasons). [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|<span style="color:orange">☆</span>]] 21:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::In the original version, Iris ''asks'' Georgia if Vanilluxe is a girl because it was flirting with Axew. Georgia replies "Yes, got a problem with that?" I would think the Pokémon's Trainer confirming it is good enough. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 00:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::If what you're saying is true, you sure have to give props to the dub for working around that... [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|<span style="color:orange">☆</span>]] 14:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== An easily-overlooked tidbit == | |||
This is probably just a bit of an observation, but should it be noted that Georgia is the only one out of the seven Unova rivals who isn't known to have at least one badge (Burgundy has the Trio Badge, and all other Unova rivals are in fact competing in the Unova League)? [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 23:36, 26 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Georgia's goal isn't about getting Gym Badges though.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 03:26, 27 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::True, but I still thought it was worth mentioning. Besides, Burgundy nor Stephan never had any goals about that either (at least none that were explicitly stated or still standing), yet they still have badges of their own. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 03:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== In Game Reference == | |||
In Black and White 2, there's a Pokéfan in the Celestial Tower named Georgia, and her only Pokémon is a Cubchoo. Could this be a posible reference to the anime character? --'''[[User:Zewis29|<span style="color:green;">Zewis</span>]] [[User talk:Zewis29|<span style="color:blue;">(29)</span>]]''' 16:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:No, her name is originally Teiko. Besides, she has a Cubchoo instead of Beartic and Pokéfans are much older than Georgia.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Two things about Vanilluxe == | |||
at '''19:58''', Iris told Georgia, "Although it's hard to admit it, Vanilluxe really saved the day. Hope you'll thank ''it'' for me." This brings up two things that are pretty much left out: | |||
1. Iris referred to Vanilluxe as an "it" and not a "she" , so Vanilluxe's gender ''isn't'' confirmed. | |||
2. Georgia's response was, "Well, if I get the chance." Does that not imply that Vanilluxe is no longer or going to be with her anymore (meaning that she released or gave it away)? [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|<span style="color:orange">☆</span>]] 23:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Pokemon are always call it, regardless if their gender has been revealed or not. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 00:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Shouldn't we remove the gender then? I don't recall Iris calling it a "she" (at least not in the dub; I don't know Japanese, and I can't find a subbed version of the episode). [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|<span style="color:orange">☆</span>]] 03:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::IT was called a she in the original Japanese dub. Anything said in the Japanese overrides anything said in the dub.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 03:22, 21 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Ok, but that doesn't answer my second question: shouldn't Vanilluxe be in a "released" or "formerly owned" section? Georgia's dialogue at the end of the episode implied that she didn't have it anymore, and she even said she caught it to use it against Iris, yet she hasn't done so even once. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|<span style="color:orange">☆</span>]] 14:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Georgia's Beartic == | |||
Uh. So why is Georgia's Beartic not allowed an article, yet other rivals (with the exception of [[Burgundy]]) have at least one page for one of their Pokémon? Despite the fact it's appeared in nearly every episode Georgia has been in. --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 17:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Someone will answer when someone with the authority to answer sees this. Please stop making substanceless edits just so you can complain about not getting an answer in the edit summary. Be patient. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
Georgia's Beartic isn't allowed a page, yet Lucy's Seviper is allowed to keep it's page despite belonging to a Character of the Day? Also it's been 3 days and I still haven't gotten a proper answer. --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 15:42, 10 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
It's been weeks and still no proper answer, also I see there's a page for Alexa's Gogoat. Why not give Georgia's Beartic an article? It's been on the show longer and has appeared in nearly every episode Georgia has been in. --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 22:16, 24 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
:[[User:Reshi643/Alexa's Gogoat|That page]] is currently in the userspace and is thus not subject to notability guidelines. {{tt|As far as I can tell|though by no means do I think I was thorough in looking}}, {{u|Kenji-girl}} (who, as Head of Anime, has the final word) has not given an opinion on it and no staff members have edited it or the [[User:Reshi643/Alexa's Helioptile|Helioptile article]] made by the same user, so there's no indication they are aware of them yet. Please don't argue that one page should exist just because {{wp|Wikipedia:Other stuff exists|another similar one does}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:06, 24 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
Nobody's answering my question.--[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 23:07, 24 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I don't mind Beartic having a page. [[User:MatchMaster/Georgia's Beartic|Someone made a really nice one]]. As for Lucy's Seviper, it appeared in the games and the manga too. The reason some have articles is not always because of what they did in the anime. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 04:41, 25 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
THANK YOU. --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 11:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC) | |||