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==Type images==
Motion to change the type images back into words. Two reasons: one, it can't be searched or sorted properly, two, it doesn't add anything, and if anything is worse - images don't scale, so that's bad for people who need large fonts to read comfortably, these images aren't particularly high contrast, and, screen readers (i.e. programs that read what's on screen) can't read images. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 17:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Motion to change the type images back into words. Two reasons: one, it can't be searched or sorted properly, two, it doesn't add anything, and if anything is worse - images don't scale, so that's bad for people who need large fonts to read comfortably, these images aren't particularly high contrast, and, screen readers (i.e. programs that read what's on screen) can't read images. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 17:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:True. It wouldn't be too hard to change them back, it's just a simple find/replace of all instances of <nowiki>[[Image: and IC.gif]], then changing them to be {{t| and }}</nowiki>, respectively. Perhaps we could instead use the type icons in the evolution infoboxes? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 10:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
:True. It wouldn't be too hard to change them back, it's just a simple find/replace of all instances of <nowiki>[[Image: and IC.gif]], then changing them to be {{t| and }}</nowiki>, respectively. Perhaps we could instead use the type icons in the evolution infoboxes? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 10:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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Obviously you will know this, but the new Pokémon are out. Just wondered if we can add them? Or wait till official confirmation for the names and such comes through?--[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 16:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Obviously you will know this, but the new Pokémon are out. Just wondered if we can add them? Or wait till official confirmation for the names and such comes through?--[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 16:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


Here are some pictures of them: [[File:Desukan_Thing.png]] [[File:Denchura_Thing.png]] [[File:Ononokusu_Thing.png]] [[File:Doryuuzu_Thing.png]] [[File:Moguryu_Thing.png]]
Here are some pictures of them:  
:We're waiting, just so you know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:We're waiting, just so you know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


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::::Viewing the animated sprites in Internet Explorer Version 8 or 9 works well. Not sure about IE Version 7 though. But the main point is that in the latest versions of Internet Explorer, the battle sprites seem to work fine. '''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 20:45, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
::::Viewing the animated sprites in Internet Explorer Version 8 or 9 works well. Not sure about IE Version 7 though. But the main point is that in the latest versions of Internet Explorer, the battle sprites seem to work fine. '''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 20:45, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well, I blew the dust off of Internet Explorer, and using my IE6, they were too fast as well. I considered upgrading to IE8 just to test this, but I'm never going to use it and I would have had to restart my computer. Thing is, we mainly cater for pretty much every browser ''except'' IE (primarily Firefox, secondarily Chrome, Safari, and Opera), and if something works in IE but no other browsers, something is very wrong with it. Try encountering one of the Pokémon on your Black or White game, and opening that page. Count how long it takes to complete one cycle. I used Metapod, and the images on that page are much too fast. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:39, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well, I blew the dust off of Internet Explorer, and using my IE6, they were too fast as well. I considered upgrading to IE8 just to test this, but I'm never going to use it and I would have had to restart my computer. Thing is, we mainly cater for pretty much every browser ''except'' IE (primarily Firefox, secondarily Chrome, Safari, and Opera), and if something works in IE but no other browsers, something is very wrong with it. Try encountering one of the Pokémon on your Black or White game, and opening that page. Count how long it takes to complete one cycle. I used Metapod, and the images on that page are much too fast. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:39, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::Hmm. I see. I'll try  viewing the sprites on my Windows 2000 Professional computer. Since It has IE 6 or something like that, I'll see if you're right about your observation. But if the sprites are the right speed, then I guess your computer has a graphics problem or something. My Windows XP has a NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS Graphics Card Version 191.07 in it so that may be why they look so good on the computer I'm using right now. My Windows 7 laptop (currently at the repair shops) has an Intel(R)Core(TM)2 Duo SU7300 (1.30GHz, 800MHz FSB) Processor w/ a 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4550 Graphics Card in it, and it uses IE 9, so that may also be why the icons look so good. Maybe it could be a graphics problem with your computer or something. Although, it could be due to an obsolete graphics card in your computer. '''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 21:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
:I just tested on my computer, and the sprites were slightly fast (animation wise. The cycle also seems to be a bit truncated) in Firefox 5.0 and very fast (ditto) in IE 7. Also, I can undersatand a graphical problem making them slower, but why would it make them faster? <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 04:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
== Redundant Entries ==
Why do Pokémon like Rotom, Unfezant and a few others have multiple entries on this list? This is a list of Pokémon by National Pokédex number, not a list of mini sprites. Their form differences are listed on their specific pages, so maybe we could just use the basic, male sprite on here? [[User:Perlgia|Perlgia]] 22:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:I completely agree with this suggestion. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:32, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
::Totally agreed. I don't see the logic in including extra rows for the alternate formes of some Pokémon (ie: Giratina) but not for others (ie: Unown). It's rather inconsistent. Moreover, it's disconcerting to see some Pokémon listed multiple times, as when looking at the table, one expects each row to belong to a different Pokémon. I think we should list each Pokémon once, regardless of whether it has alternate formes. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 05:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:::we should only list alternate forms if they have different types (Darmanatan and Shaymin) ......and even then maybe not. [[User:Volcronaperson|<span style="color:#000000; background:#000000">_</span><span style="color:#ff0000; background:#000000">Volcronaperson</span><span style="color:#000000; background:#000000">_</span>]] 21:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
On the subject of this, the new formes for Kyurem, Keldeo and the Genies need to be put on the list. Imo gender differences are redundant and make no difference to the Pokémon and definately shouldn't be included. For people using the lists for their own purposes, it is useful to have all the different formes because, in the competitive world, different formes are completely different Pokémon, with different stats or different types.[[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] ([[User talk:Lucky V4.0|talk]]) 09:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
== Generation VI Announced ==
In fact, [http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=294275 here] is the three starter Pokémon from the announcement.  Should we start planning for new Pokémon now, or...are we waiting for a full Pokédex?  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 22:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Oh, LMAO...just found [[Chespin (Pokémon)|this]].  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 22:06, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
== [[Xerneas]] and [[Yveltal]] ==
[http://www.joystiq.com/2013/01/09/pokemon-x-y-legendary-details-meet-xerneas-and-yveltal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fjoystiq+%28Joystiq%29 Think we can start these now.]]  I was going to, but apparently, I don't have permission to create pages around here.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
== Add Ninfia To Gen VI? ==
Title. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 15:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
== Add Yanchamu, Yayakoma, Erikiteru, and Gogoto? ==
Since we know they are 100% real. [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 09:01, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
==Add Fairy-types where applicable==
Sylveon confirmed Fairy, Marill, Jigglypuff and Gardevoir also fairy. {{unsigned|Backup}}
:Mawile is confirmed now as well and needs to be changed.[[User:Pokeprof1|Pokeprof1]] ([[User talk:Pokeprof1|talk]]) 20:31, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
== mawile ==
you still need to change mawile's type lol [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 10:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)