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+==Type images==
 Motion to change the type images back into words. Two reasons: one, it can't be searched or sorted properly, two, it doesn't add anything, and if anything is worse - images don't scale, so that's bad for people who need large fonts to read comfortably, these images aren't particularly high contrast, and, screen readers (i.e. programs that read what's on screen) can't read images. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 17:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 :True. It wouldn't be too hard to change them back, it's just a simple find/replace of all instances of <nowiki>[[Image: and IC.gif]], then changing them to be {{t| and }}</nowiki>, respectively. Perhaps we could instead use the type icons in the evolution infoboxes? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 10:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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 Obviously you will know this, but the new Pokémon are out. Just wondered if we can add them? Or wait till official confirmation for the names and such comes through?--[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 16:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
-Here are some pictures of them: [[File:Desukan_Thing.png]] [[File:Denchura_Thing.png]] [[File:Ononokusu_Thing.png]] [[File:Doryuuzu_Thing.png]] [[File:Moguryu_Thing.png]]
+Here are some pictures of them:
 :We're waiting, just so you know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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 I was wondering why a lot of the Unova pokemon names still haven't been updated with their english names.  It's all over the internet, so I'm assuming someone doesn't want to change them yet for some reason, but if you do here's a forum that has a list on it:  http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?3840-English-Names-for-Gen-5-Pokemon  - [[User:Ash1Ketchum4|Ash1Ketchum4]] 04:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 :Because they're not confirmed by official sources. Be patient. :] --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 04:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
+::Can we consider these names as confirmed by now ? We saw by now that no mistake was made, the last proof about this was the use of [[Dewott]] and [[Servine]] in the anime !
+::PS : I also managed to get the French names of Pokémon on the [http://www.pokemontrash.com Pokémon Trash] website, and I don't think they are fake, the author of the news posted a video showing the game's French Version and the French "Unys" (Unova) Pokédex ! And, by the way, the french [[:fr:Accueil|Poképedia]] already published the English and French names !
+::--[[User:Wolfy|Wolfy]] 13:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
+:::We are using names which we see in videos of the game. We are not yet using the whole list. I think the French names can wait another 3 days - the other language names aren't that important. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:52, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
+::::By the way, does anyone have news about the German names ? I want them to complete my own Pokémon alphabetical list (In French) !
+::::--[[User:Wolfy|Wolfy]] 13:59, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
+:::::I would recommend using our partner [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis]] wikis for that. I don't know how confirmed the French names are, so they may actually need to be added; however, it is safest to just wait the 2 remaining days until the European release, which will include those names. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
+::::::I understand your doubts. I was also supicious about the stuff Pokémon Trash published, until I saw the videos at the end of the topic (I'm talking about [http://www.pokemontrash.com/1526-EXCLU-MONDIALE--Integralite-des-noms-fran_ais-de-la-5G.html this topic] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghqp3RhAYxI&feature=player_embedded this video]). I think this proof is engouh to say these names are confirmed, isn't it ?
+::::::PS:The only page of German [[PokéWiki]] I'm watching is the one about National Pokédex : I can't read the news, I can't talk German !
+::::::--[[User:Wolfy|Wolfy]] 14:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
+== Ulgamoth to Volcarona? ==
+I noticed it's page was changed to display the English name, I assume that should be done here as well. I would do it if I could, just drawing attention to it.[[User:Zond|Zond]] 00:56, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
+==GamesMaster==
+Can we at least remain consistent as to whether all of their names are used or none of them are? Throh, Roggenrola and Cubchoo are ''also in the magazine'''. Roggenrola is mentioned at the Gym 4 part, Cubchoo at the Gym 8 part and Throh on the Elite 4 page.
+:As of right now, ''nothing'' in that magazine should be considered credible. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 17:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+Then shouldn't the other names be reverted? [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 17:27, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+::I've been thinking of this for a while but there should be a chance should be re-protected due to the issues in finding valid sources. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 17:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::All of the GM names should be reverted, though with the site lagging as it is, it's taking me a while to determine exactly how much has been changed and what needs to be put back. And Tyler, I will certainly put that forward to the powers that be. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 17:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+:The page Cilan's Dwebble was recently moved as well as some Pokemon move pages have had the name Dwebble added to them (i.e. Dig) would you like me to start reverting them? [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 17:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+:: That would be most helpful. If anyone complains, point them in my direction. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 17:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::Okay, I'll get on it. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 17:42, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+::::Thank you Bikini Miltank for your earlier comment since I am trying to prevent an edit war if a issue like this gets out of control. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 17:45, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+Just reverted all of my edits back to the originals. At least it'll save a bit of time when the names are confirmed on Friday, yes? [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 17:49, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+:Thanks, I really appreciate everybody's help with this. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 18:04, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
+== High Quality .gif Sprites (Fully Animated) ==
+Recently, I was looking for fully animated sprites of all 649 Pokemon and their shiny forms (front & back) along with their sprites as shown in the Party Pokémon Menu in Black and White. While Seraching for these images, I stumbled upon two very good sites. Here are their URLs: (No pop-ups for either page, but some ads do exist.)
+===Page 1: http://dialgafans.pytalhost.de/ for Gen. V Battle Sprites===
+.) For this site, the shiny sprite is on the bottom of each Pokémon's sprite group and the regular sprites are on the top half of their sprite group. Pokémon are shown 50 at a time. Sprites for the front of a Pokémon are shown on the left half of their sprite group, and sprites for the back of the Pokémon are shown at the right half of their sprite group. Just be aware that not all sprites are fully animated, but most are. This site is only for sprites of Pokémon during a battle sequence, such as a battle against a wild Pokémon. This also has ALL forms of each Pokémon as well (Most of them are fully animated). For example, all of Arceus's forms are here (shiny and normal).
+===Page 2: http://www.upnetwork.net/fb/sprites/sprites1.html for Gen. V Menu Sprites===
+.) For this site, There '''ARE''' Shiny Sprites! Please be aware that these sprites are sorted by Generation (001-151, 152-251, 252-386, 387-493, and 494-649). All Pokémon from each generation are shown in each section. These sprites are shown in the "POKéMON" Menu in Black and White Versions, along with the PC Boxes and the "POKéMON" Menu during battles. This does not have different animation speeds or effects, though. Also be aware that Normal Sprites are shown on the top half of the page, and shiny sprites are shown on the bottom half of the page. Just beware: In Pokémon Black and White Versions, and all other Pokémon Main Series Games, there aren't any shiny sprites of this kind! I would advise that you would use sprites '''ONLY''' from the TOP HALF of the page! This also has ALL forms of each Pokémon as well. For example, all of Arceus's forms are here (shiny and normal). This page also has the normal and shiny sprites for Missingno.
+Please give these pages a quick view, as it would be very nice to see these sprites on Bulbapedia. Maybe not tomorrow, but someday, it would be great so see these on Bulbapedia.
+===Things to be Aware of:===
+.) <span style="color:#ff0000">These sites only cover '''SPRITES''', not a Pokémon's cry. You can find those elsewhere. (http://pokemon.marriland.com/black_white/pokedex is a good source.)</span>
+.) <span style="color:#ff0000">Some sprites may not load properly in some browsers. If this does occcur, try changing the browser you use to view the page or update your browser if possible.</span>
+.) <span style="color:#ff0000">I can already guarantee that if you are usng Internet Explor Version 8.0.6001.18702 on a Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2 to view the 2<sup>nd</sup> link, the shiny Unova Pokémon (#494-649) WILL NOT show up. This may be because they haven't been created yet or it could be a browser or system error. Please be aware of that.</span>
+.) <span style="color:#ff0000">If you try to view the 1<sup>st</sup> site using the same computer and browser settings as previously stated above, many sprites on all pages WILL NOT load. It doesn't matter which page you are viewing; most of them still won't show up. I have tried to view these two pages on a Windows 7 PC and they DID load, so it's most likely a browser or system error. Please be aware of that.</span>
+'''<span style="color:#ff0000"><u>DO NOT UPLOAD ANY OF THESE SPRITES OR CRIES TO THE BULBAGARDEN ARCHIVES OR BULBAPEDIA WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THE SOURCE ''AND'' FROM A STAFF MEMBER FIRST!!!!!</u></span>'''
+Hope you enjoy these sprites as much as I do!
+〜'''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 01:54, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
+:I have no idea why the Black and White animations have not been uploaded, but you will likely need to get Admin approval first before uploading any. As for the shiny menusprites, they are fake, so they probably can't be used, although we ''could'' use the shiny Celebi sprite for pages relating to the one in Mystery Dungeon, since we use a fake sprite for Red Gyarados. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 03:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
+::I know the shiny menusprites are fake, but it would be really cool if the actual menusprites for shinies were the shiny coloring. By the way, did you check out both pages? They're really cool. '''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 13:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
+:::We already have all the menu sprites, and don't want the Shiny fan-made ones. Also, the non-Shiny ones look miscolored; for example, Charmander is much to pale, while Ditto is pink rather than purple. As for the animated sprites, while we do want animated battle sprites, all of them seem to be going too fast (on both Chrome and Firefox, more so on Chrome, but that may just be because Firefox lags). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:38, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
+::::Viewing the animated sprites in Internet Explorer Version 8 or 9 works well. Not sure about IE Version 7 though. But the main point is that in the latest versions of Internet Explorer, the battle sprites seem to work fine. '''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 20:45, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
+:::::Well, I blew the dust off of Internet Explorer, and using my IE6, they were too fast as well. I considered upgrading to IE8 just to test this, but I'm never going to use it and I would have had to restart my computer. Thing is, we mainly cater for pretty much every browser ''except'' IE (primarily Firefox, secondarily Chrome, Safari, and Opera), and if something works in IE but no other browsers, something is very wrong with it. Try encountering one of the Pokémon on your Black or White game, and opening that page. Count how long it takes to complete one cycle. I used Metapod, and the images on that page are much too fast. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:39, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
+::::::Hmm. I see. I'll try  viewing the sprites on my Windows 2000 Professional computer. Since It has IE 6 or something like that, I'll see if you're right about your observation. But if the sprites are the right speed, then I guess your computer has a graphics problem or something. My Windows XP has a NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS Graphics Card Version 191.07 in it so that may be why they look so good on the computer I'm using right now. My Windows 7 laptop (currently at the repair shops) has an Intel(R)Core(TM)2 Duo SU7300 (1.30GHz, 800MHz FSB) Processor w/ a 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4550 Graphics Card in it, and it uses IE 9, so that may also be why the icons look so good. Maybe it could be a graphics problem with your computer or something. Although, it could be due to an obsolete graphics card in your computer. '''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 21:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
+:I just tested on my computer, and the sprites were slightly fast (animation wise. The cycle also seems to be a bit truncated) in Firefox 5.0 and very fast (ditto) in IE 7. Also, I can undersatand a graphical problem making them slower, but why would it make them faster? <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 04:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
+== Redundant Entries ==
+Why do Pokémon like Rotom, Unfezant and a few others have multiple entries on this list? This is a list of Pokémon by National Pokédex number, not a list of mini sprites. Their form differences are listed on their specific pages, so maybe we could just use the basic, male sprite on here? [[User:Perlgia|Perlgia]] 22:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
+:I completely agree with this suggestion. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:32, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
+::Totally agreed. I don't see the logic in including extra rows for the alternate formes of some Pokémon (ie: Giratina) but not for others (ie: Unown). It's rather inconsistent. Moreover, it's disconcerting to see some Pokémon listed multiple times, as when looking at the table, one expects each row to belong to a different Pokémon. I think we should list each Pokémon once, regardless of whether it has alternate formes. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 05:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
+:::we should only list alternate forms if they have different types (Darmanatan and Shaymin) ......and even then maybe not. [[User:Volcronaperson|<span style="color:#000000; background:#000000">_</span><span style="color:#ff0000; background:#000000">Volcronaperson</span><span style="color:#000000; background:#000000">_</span>]] 21:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
+On the subject of this, the new formes for Kyurem, Keldeo and the Genies need to be put on the list. Imo gender differences are redundant and make no difference to the Pokémon and definately shouldn't be included. For people using the lists for their own purposes, it is useful to have all the different formes because, in the competitive world, different formes are completely different Pokémon, with different stats or different types.[[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] ([[User talk:Lucky V4.0|talk]]) 09:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
+== Generation VI Announced ==
+In fact, [http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=294275 here] is the three starter Pokémon from the announcement.  Should we start planning for new Pokémon now, or...are we waiting for a full Pokédex?  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 22:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
+:Oh, LMAO...just found [[Chespin (Pokémon)|this]].  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 22:06, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
+== [[Xerneas]] and [[Yveltal]] ==
+[http://www.joystiq.com/2013/01/09/pokemon-x-y-legendary-details-meet-xerneas-and-yveltal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fjoystiq+%28Joystiq%29 Think we can start these now.]]  I was going to, but apparently, I don't have permission to create pages around here.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
+== Add Ninfia To Gen VI? ==
+Title. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 15:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
+== Add Yanchamu, Yayakoma, Erikiteru, and Gogoto? ==
+Since we know they are 100% real. [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 09:01, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
+==Add Fairy-types where applicable==
+Sylveon confirmed Fairy, Marill, Jigglypuff and Gardevoir also fairy. {{unsigned|Backup}}
+:Mawile is confirmed now as well and needs to be changed.[[User:Pokeprof1|Pokeprof1]] ([[User talk:Pokeprof1|talk]]) 20:31, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
+== mawile ==
+you still need to change mawile's type lol [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 10:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)