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Since when did Ash's Charizard use {{m|Submission}}?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 03:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Since when did Ash's Charizard use {{m|Submission}}?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 03:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
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== Gender ==
== Gender ==


What episode was Charizard's gender confirmed? Just curious. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 22:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
What episode was Charizard's gender confirmed? Just curious. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ 22:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it was a specific episode, I think it's just because it happens to have a crush on a Charizard with a lighter roar than Ash's and a bow on its head. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 23:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it was a specific episode, I think it's just because it happens to have a crush on a Charizard with a lighter roar than Ash's and a bow on its head. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 23:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


:: Ah, just wonderin. ^^; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:: Ah, just wonderin. ^^; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ 23:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


== Released? ==
== Released? ==
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Do we realy nead one? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Do we realy nead one? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:We have them for Butterfree and Sceptile... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:We have them for Butterfree and Sceptile... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


== Look guys... ==
== Look guys... ==
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Look...It shouldn't be assumed Male just because theres no proof what gender it is. It's just sexist saying all Ash's Pokémon are male. |: Gender difference shouldn't count as that was in Gen4, and Charizard is from Gen1/The first Pokémon seasons/whatever. |: [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 15:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Look...It shouldn't be assumed Male just because theres no proof what gender it is. It's just sexist saying all Ash's Pokémon are male. |: Gender difference shouldn't count as that was in Gen4, and Charizard is from Gen1/The first Pokémon seasons/whatever. |: [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 15:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
If you think that saying that Ash's Pokémon SEEM to be male is sexist, then you need to GROW THE FUCK UP.
The anime makes it VERY clear when a Pokémon is a female, either by its appearance, or it behavior (look at Ash's Chikorita).
Moreover, the anime NEVER stated that a Pokémon whose gender hadn't been previously revealed, is female, at it would be too bizarre.
If they didn't bother at making a Pokémon, girly-like, then the Pokémon is EXTREMELY likely to be a male (again, I have yet to see a case where the opposite happened). But if the writers made it act manly, like they did with Charizard when he is in the presence of Liza's female Charizard, then it's OBVIOUS that it is a male.


:Okay, yeah most likely Charizard is male. But being that there are some people that feel that it could be otherwise, maybe we should leave it as unknown until it is 100% confirmed.  I mean Pikachu has just as much evidence that it is male as Charizard and yet we still refuse to call it that. It's a little hypocritical.
:Okay, yeah most likely Charizard is male. But being that there are some people that feel that it could be otherwise, maybe we should leave it as unknown until it is 100% confirmed.  I mean Pikachu has just as much evidence that it is male as Charizard and yet we still refuse to call it that. It's a little hypocritical.
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::::::: I agree. Change "unknown gender" to male. Those who insist on the possibility of Charizard being a female lesbian are being RIDICULOUS, not only because this is a children's show, but also because Pokémon CAN'T be homosexual (gay Pokémon don't exist in the video games). {{unsigned|Spideym}}
::::::: I agree. Change "unknown gender" to male. Those who insist on the possibility of Charizard being a female lesbian are being RIDICULOUS, not only because this is a children's show, but also because Pokémon CAN'T be homosexual (gay Pokémon don't exist in the video games). {{unsigned|Spideym}}
:::::::: [[Harley|LIES!]] Charizard can be be female, Yes, Homosexuality is allowed in a children show, I mean in Japan they don't give a damn about guns, nudity or swearing.  The only thing that makes Charizard a male is being attracted to Charla, That is 1 out out the millions of possibility that it could be male.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::: Anime aimed at young kids DON'T have homosexuality. The Pokémon anime never did (Harley was never confirmed to be gay). And if we're going to leave Charizard's gender as "unknown" by considering the possibility of it being homosexual, then we should do the same about Ash's Bayleef. {{unsigned|Spideym}}
:::And the humas also. I never heared anyone say Jessie is a girl. [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 18:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
<small>(resenting indent)</small> Charla could be a male you know.  It's like stating {{wp|Dame Edna}} was female, but is really a man in disguise.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
: Now you're getting ridiculous. If they made Charla girly-like and NEVER gave us a reason to consider it a cross-dresser, then saying it is, is PURE FANFICTION. {{unsigned|Spideym}}
:: Pokémon don't have to be gay. How about the rest of the Charizard at Charicific Valley, They're all Male right? WRONG! You can never predict it, The people may give a sort of manish look for Charizard but really is female, That is why I mention Dame Edna...--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::: But we didn't see them being attracted to a FEMALE Pokémon, which we did about Ash's Charizard! And if you're going to say something as ridiculous as Charla being a crossdresser, then I will say that Misty might be a boy who had a gender change, since they never specifically said she isn't >_> {{unsigned|Spideym}}
:::: That may be true you know.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 08:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: Someone should change Misty's gender to "unknown" in her page, then _-_ {{unsigned|Spideym}}
::::::: Okay then, let's leave Charizard as unknown and change all the humans and rest of pokemon to unknown too. Infact, we might aswell just completely remove the genders from everything, it's just REDICULOUS. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC))


:::And the humas also. I never heared anyone say Jessie is a girl. [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 18:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: Number one, we were having fun forgetting about this.
:::::::: number two, you had to bring this up again?
:::::::: --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 02:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


== We obviously need to discuss which image we want in the article. ==
== We obviously need to discuss which image we want in the article. ==
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The note in trivia on when the move dragon rage was first used by Ash's Charizard is wrong and I have tried to change it but everytime I do it gets changed back. Watch episode 112 enter the dragonite. Charizard uses it there and there might even be a time before then when he does. --[[User:Pazusalmon|Pazusalmon]] 23:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
The note in trivia on when the move dragon rage was first used by Ash's Charizard is wrong and I have tried to change it but everytime I do it gets changed back. Watch episode 112 enter the dragonite. Charizard uses it there and there might even be a time before then when he does. --[[User:Pazusalmon|Pazusalmon]] 23:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:The trivia is saying that it first used '''{{m|Dragonbreath}}''' in the battle with Gary. Infact, Dragon Rage was used even before [[EP112]]. That was used in [[EP105]] when Charizard begins to trust Ash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:The trivia is saying that it first used '''{{m|DragonBreath|Dragonbreath}}''' in the battle with Gary. Infact, Dragon Rage was used even before [[EP112]]. That was used in [[EP105]] when Charizard begins to trust Ash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


Shouldn't we mke the pics a gallery--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 18:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we mke the pics a gallery--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 18:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)