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Since when did Ash's Charizard use {{m|Submission}}?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 03:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | Since when did Ash's Charizard use {{m|Submission}}?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 03:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Basically he just spins around while flying to confuse the opponent before using {{m|Seismic Toss}}. --[[User:cbhadha|cbhadha]] 9:32, 29 June 2007 | Basically he just spins around while flying to confuse the opponent before using {{m|Seismic Toss}}. --[[User:cbhadha|cbhadha]] 9:32, 29 June 2007 | ||
== Gender == | |||
What episode was Charizard's gender confirmed? Just curious. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ 22:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I don't think it was a specific episode, I think it's just because it happens to have a crush on a Charizard with a lighter roar than Ash's and a bow on its head. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 23:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: Ah, just wonderin. ^^; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ 23:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Released? == | |||
Well, we don't technically list James's Cacnea as released (so I wonder if we should), but although Ash "released" Charizard, he technically just left it at the Charicific Valley, and it still goes in his Poké Ball without needing to be recaptured. So really, I'm wondering, should Charizard and Squirtle go where Cacnea does? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 03:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Hmm, good point. Well, I really think that should be possible. He does return in extreme battles. (like the Elite Four, Pokémon Frontier) So you're right, he isn't gone, and Charizard is still his. Ash just wants Charizard to feel well, and I really think he doesn't see the point of keeping his Pokémon at Oak's lab when there is a whole place for him.{{unsigned|TheBlazikenMaster}} | |||
Yeah I agree because Ash just left him there to train. It's basically leaving you're Pokemon at the Daycare! Because 1. He left it there for training 2. It gets stronger, just like in the daycare and 3. There was never any indication it was released. [[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]] | |||
Where the hell did anyone get "released" from? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)) | |||
== Charmeleon picture == | |||
Anyone got a pic of Charmeleon? [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 01:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
Do we realy nead one? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:We have them for Butterfree and Sceptile... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Look guys... == | |||
I don't mean too nag, but Charizard was never confirmed male...Errr...Unless a character refers to it as a "he" constantly, then i think it could be ether gender. I mean, but because it likes [[Charla|another Charizard which is a female]] doesn't mean anything. I mean, Charizard could be a female, and be a lesbian (: I mean, i'm pretty sure Pokémon have sexualities (''as in my LeafGreen (Well it was actually my cousins game but i know he didn't cheat on it or anything!), my male Blaziken and male Charizard came out with a normal Torchic egg xD Glitchy much?'') [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 19:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Entirely correct. I've removed the gender, and if anyone has a convincing argument that shows that this Charizard is male, I'll be happy to hear it. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 02:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah. That was like calling Ash's Bulbasaur a male because it liked May's Bulbasaur who's female (and that isn't even confirmed). I'm thinking, should we recheck Ash's Sceptile? Because that says it's male because of the whole Megainium thing. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Woah. I didn't think anyone was actually doing to listen to me and just start arguing...But like, i think a Pokémon's gender is only really conformed if someone goes "Oh you have a male ________" or "female ______" or if their constantly referred too as one gender. E.G. Ash's Pikachu constantly (like every episode) being referred too as He, Him, or His. (: But thats just my outlook on it [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 06:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::It probably is male but, like most Pokémon genders, that isn't confirmed. We need to start making a hard line here and from the situation with Pikachu, we should stick to "it" unless it is explicitly stated. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 14:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Political correctness much? [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 08:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
I agree | |||
But just to add on I've got some sites here that link him as being male (just to be sure!) [http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Charizard_-_In_the_anime/id/4912154 The First Website] [http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=210680 This one also applies to the hey you have a male____!] {{unsigned|Big Johnno}} | |||
:Oh wow... That totally proves it's male. A fan site... And sign your comments. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 09:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
its still serebii! {{unsigned|Big Johnno}} | |||
:Doesn't make it trustworthy. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 09:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
meh, try finding proof of charizard being female. come on I Dare You!<small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]] ([[User talk:Big Johnno|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Big Johnno|contribs]]){{ #if: |  {{{2}}} |}}''</small> | |||
:And now it's getting out of hand. All for making Charizard, Pikachu, and pretty much everyone on Ash's team male, say aye. Honestly, if we're using the "OH LOL CHARIZARD MIGHT BE A LESBIAN" argument... come on. I'm as supportive of homosexuality as anyone else in their right mind, but really, if we have to wait for Charla to show up and hand Dawn a Charmander egg... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::-_-' There is still no logical proof as charizard appeared before '''GENII'''. Which showed Genders for the first time, Now charizard being a First Gen Pokémon, The creators had no Idea About its gender, But there is still no proof, I mean Charmander could've been a girl before even turning into a Charmeleon, And as a Charmeleon it was a Boy, And so on, There is lot's of theory about Chari's gender. Oh yeah, Sign your Frikkin' Comments --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::No proof of any Pokémon's gender. If the freaking gender differences shown by a Pokémon that itself debuted before Gen IV (I'm talking that damned Venusaur now) isn't big enough of a hint for everyone that they ''do'' apply in the anime, I don't know what is, Pikachu's dong slipping into a shot or something? Look, here's a hint. If Misty comes back with Gyarados and IT HAS WHITE WHISKERS (as they were blue before) then undoubtedly, completely, we ''must say'' that Ash's Pikachu is male, Jessie's Wobbuffet is male, and so on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::It's pathetic. Change back to Male, honestly, this is ridiculous. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 10:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::I agree that it should be stated to be a male unless somebody can prove it's gay. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::::Ok so everyone on Ash's team is Male. [[User:Crystallucario|<span style="color:#000000">~'''Crystal'''</span>]][[User talk:Crystallucario|<span style="color:#000000">~'''Lucario~'''</span>]] 11:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::::This discussion isn't over until the page is unprotected. And it's up to an admin to do so. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
Look...It shouldn't be assumed Male just because theres no proof what gender it is. It's just sexist saying all Ash's Pokémon are male. |: Gender difference shouldn't count as that was in Gen4, and Charizard is from Gen1/The first Pokémon seasons/whatever. |: [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 15:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
If you think that saying that Ash's Pokémon SEEM to be male is sexist, then you need to GROW THE FUCK UP. | |||
The anime makes it VERY clear when a Pokémon is a female, either by its appearance, or it behavior (look at Ash's Chikorita). | |||
Moreover, the anime NEVER stated that a Pokémon whose gender hadn't been previously revealed, is female, at it would be too bizarre. | |||
If they didn't bother at making a Pokémon, girly-like, then the Pokémon is EXTREMELY likely to be a male (again, I have yet to see a case where the opposite happened). But if the writers made it act manly, like they did with Charizard when he is in the presence of Liza's female Charizard, then it's OBVIOUS that it is a male. | |||
:Okay, yeah most likely Charizard is male. But being that there are some people that feel that it could be otherwise, maybe we should leave it as unknown until it is 100% confirmed. I mean Pikachu has just as much evidence that it is male as Charizard and yet we still refuse to call it that. It's a little hypocritical. | |||
:Oh yeah, and I don't like ignorant bastards calling others dumbasses for thinking differently! You know, people who are that uncomfortable about homosexuality are usually trying to hide their own homosexual feelings. *snap* --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 20:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Well, I understand that, the word "gay" is often used in a negative way. I still think it's male, but you're right it's not 100% confirmed. When exactly do any of you plan to unlock this page? Just curious... [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 20:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Some people think differently? Who ''seriously'' thinks that, unlike about ''Pikachu'', which I'm about ready to say "throw that crap out the window" because it wouldn't matter if they '''''showed Pikachu's dong on TV''''' to them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Saying that Charizard is "Gen I" doesn't make much of a difference since Gen II was already in development at the time the anime was created (Ho-Oh ''was'' in the first episode, after all). So the animators may have already had a grasp on genders even before Gen IV introduced physical differences. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 16:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Honestly, I'm not against homosexuality(my sister has a friend that is gay), but Charizard has to be male, at least in the American version because, they aren't going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 19:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::[[Harley|Uh-huh]]. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 23:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Ok, this is really stupid. I actually want to edit the page. but i cant cuz of this whole arguement. didnt we agree to be neutral about this stuff? we dont know its gender until it is stated in the original. its same thing with Pikachu or whatever other Pokemon is highly speculated. so can the protection finally end? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:And why does this conversation always have to end up being about homosexuality and Harley?? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 00:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I really agree. Who cares whether or not Charizard is homosexual? I really think this silly discussion should end today. I don't know about the rest of you but I personally don't care if the Charizard is a homosexual or straight. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::I second that motion. I'm all for gays on television, but this series will hardly do anything for the community. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 00:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Okay, so shall we keep it unknown until we see Misty's Gyarados back with white whiskers? Or the Pink Butterfree with black wingdots? Misty ''has'' to return SOMETIME during DP... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'd rather vote on keeping it male until the homosexuality has been proven, but I'm voting for unknown instead. Whatever makes the page unprotected. It's bad enough that I can't edit my crappy user page, if the protection will still be here several weeks from when I'm posting this, it will be WAY too out-of-date. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
The page has been unprotected either today or yesterday, I can't remember which. Either way, I ''highly'' doubt that this Charizard is gay. People just want to make it as a possibility because no one ever said what the gender is in the series. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 01:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:You're right, I didn't notice, sorry about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I vote we put Charizard as Male because they are not going to promote homosexuality in a show aimed at kids, at least, not in the American Dub. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 22:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::We aren't voting on anything! It stays as Unknown. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 02:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::I still think it's ridiculous to find homosexuality a possibility. I'd like to see another more realistic reason why it stays unknown. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
It stays unknown until an anime character calls it a male or refers to it as a "he". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:ok so your going to wait until the episode when charizard returns and ash be like "hey guys its charizard...did u guys know hes a male" lol ''...not going to happen...'' look there never going to do stuff like that and u know it , if they were to have said something it should be on the episode when ash caught it or sometime after but since it didnt u should look at its personalities like ..the writers are trying to hint at all of us that charizards a male by giving it male personalities ..there never going to confirm it...i know bulbapedia is strict bout this stuff but u cant just let it be unknown even after the show ends.. [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]] | |||
::To put it simply, YES. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 00:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
I too think this is rediculous, there's no chance he's homosexual in a kids show. I think it should be changed to Male. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)) | |||
:Sigh.... And yet we have Harley... --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 10:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Harley being gay is pure speculation. It was never confirmed. But still, we cannot say Charizard is male until it is confirmed he is male. [[User:Pokeman21|Pokeman21]] 1:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
I know about Harley, but [[Ash's Totodile]] is listed as Male for the same reason, because he fell in love with Azumarill. Surely either Charizard should be changed to Male or Totodile changed to unknown. [[Ash's Totodile|This]] is what i mean, there is a lack of consistency with genders here. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)) | |||
:I agree. There should be consistency. Therefore I'll change Totodile to Unknown until someone has solid evidence that it's male. I mean, we have strict guidelines for Ash's Pikachu despite Dawn's Buneary be confirmed female. So should his other Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 10:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
Charizard I think deserves to be called a Male in the page because he has fallen in love with a female pokemon with a bow on it's head and has the name "Charla", what more proof do you need he is male. Honestly I wish that some people on this site had brains for this. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 14:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Charla is obviously a crossdresser. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 14:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Well getting back to planet earth for a second I don't think that is going to happen in pokemon (James does not count since he does this often enough with Jessie). I mean it is so obvious. If Gayness is looked down upon then how do you think romance is looked upon in the anime. Apparently most of Ash's pokemon are classed as things simply for being in love with a female pokemon but all female pokemon have to do to be classed as female is be in love with a male character (or in Bayleef's case Ash) or even just wear flowers or whatever. [[User:WolfMan of Light|De Wolfy is here]] 23:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Most of the time the flower wearing and man loving comes with a verbal confirmation. I think that those without SHOULD be removed. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Another point to make. Similar to abilites, just because a Pokémon is definitely male in the games (e.g. {{p|Tauros}}, {{p|Nidoking}}) doesn't prove that it's male, and the converse is true as well... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 23:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::I think what it all comes down to is fan speculation, what different people ''want'' to think; very few genders have actually been confirmed, either verbally or by noting gender differences in Gen IV, so what's wrong with leaving the rest "Unknown"? At least we're not claiming authority on things we really don't know for sure. It's one of the things I really wish the writers of the show would tell us outright through an interview or something. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 23:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::Would {{MTR}} be one of those examples? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 23:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::: The way this goes, very few genders will ever be confirmed. I agree with not having pokemon like Torkoal that don't have any idea but Charizard points to 99% being male. If Charizard's gender can't be put down here there's very few that can and very few that ever will. The way this is going we might just as well remove genders from every pokemon on this site. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 10:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)) | |||
::::::: I agree. Change "unknown gender" to male. Those who insist on the possibility of Charizard being a female lesbian are being RIDICULOUS, not only because this is a children's show, but also because Pokémon CAN'T be homosexual (gay Pokémon don't exist in the video games). {{unsigned|Spideym}} | |||
:::::::: [[Harley|LIES!]] Charizard can be be female, Yes, Homosexuality is allowed in a children show, I mean in Japan they don't give a damn about guns, nudity or swearing. The only thing that makes Charizard a male is being attracted to Charla, That is 1 out out the millions of possibility that it could be male.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::::::: Anime aimed at young kids DON'T have homosexuality. The Pokémon anime never did (Harley was never confirmed to be gay). And if we're going to leave Charizard's gender as "unknown" by considering the possibility of it being homosexual, then we should do the same about Ash's Bayleef. {{unsigned|Spideym}} | |||
:::And the humas also. I never heared anyone say Jessie is a girl. [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 18:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
<small>(resenting indent)</small> Charla could be a male you know. It's like stating {{wp|Dame Edna}} was female, but is really a man in disguise.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
: Now you're getting ridiculous. If they made Charla girly-like and NEVER gave us a reason to consider it a cross-dresser, then saying it is, is PURE FANFICTION. {{unsigned|Spideym}} | |||
:: Pokémon don't have to be gay. How about the rest of the Charizard at Charicific Valley, They're all Male right? WRONG! You can never predict it, The people may give a sort of manish look for Charizard but really is female, That is why I mention Dame Edna...--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 07:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::: But we didn't see them being attracted to a FEMALE Pokémon, which we did about Ash's Charizard! And if you're going to say something as ridiculous as Charla being a crossdresser, then I will say that Misty might be a boy who had a gender change, since they never specifically said she isn't >_> {{unsigned|Spideym}} | |||
:::: That may be true you know.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 08:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::: Someone should change Misty's gender to "unknown" in her page, then _-_ {{unsigned|Spideym}} | |||
::::::: Okay then, let's leave Charizard as unknown and change all the humans and rest of pokemon to unknown too. Infact, we might aswell just completely remove the genders from everything, it's just REDICULOUS. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)) | |||
:::::::: Number one, we were having fun forgetting about this. | |||
:::::::: number two, you had to bring this up again? | |||
:::::::: --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 02:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
== We obviously need to discuss which image we want in the article. == | |||
I can see obviously that the image keeps changing. My vote would be [[a:Image:AG340.jpg|this]], because it actually shows it is Ash's Charizard. While [[a:Image:Ash's Charizard.jpg|this]] and [[a:Image:Ash_charizard.jpg|this]] could be any Charizard. Yes, I am very aware of the image title already states who the Charizard belongs to, but people should see who the Charizard belongs to just by looking at the image. 13:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I'm the one who put the one with Ash in it, but the current pic has great quality, so I'm content--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 14:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Dragon Rage == | |||
The note in trivia on when the move dragon rage was first used by Ash's Charizard is wrong and I have tried to change it but everytime I do it gets changed back. Watch episode 112 enter the dragonite. Charizard uses it there and there might even be a time before then when he does. --[[User:Pazusalmon|Pazusalmon]] 23:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:The trivia is saying that it first used '''{{m|DragonBreath|Dragonbreath}}''' in the battle with Gary. Infact, Dragon Rage was used even before [[EP112]]. That was used in [[EP105]] when Charizard begins to trust Ash. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
Shouldn't we mke the pics a gallery--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 18:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:What pics? You mean the four we have in the article? I honestly think we need more to make a gallery. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 18:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Edit War == | |||
Alright, we're ending this right now. Edit warring is '''strictly''' frowned upon here at Bulbapedia. So why don't we discuss here which screenshot is better? | |||
Personally, I think the one with Charizard preparing to battle is a better screenshot. Why? Because Charizard takes up the entire photo. Yes, you can see Ash in it, but does that really matter? Many of Ash's Pokémon ({{AP|Corphish}}, {{AP|Heracross}}) don't have screenshots that contain him. Why is this one any different? --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 14:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
Heracross does! But u destroyed the gallery--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 14:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I'm sorry for doing that, but I needed to stop the immature edit war that was going on. And Heracross doesn't, I just looked at the article. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 14:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
The original head pi, from Ka Boom with A View--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 14:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I agree with PAK Man, the one without Ash looks a lot better. I personally can't believe there is an edit war yet again on this article. Why is this article a source for edit wars? I don't know, but I really think it has to end. If I were an admin, I also would have protected the article, because I really hate edit wars, we have a discussion page for a reason. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I vote for the one with both Ash and Charizard. The one when it is getting ready for battle is hunched over and distorted. The animation in that episode wasnt good in the first place,, and that pose doesnt help. Plus, this shows how big charizard is compared to Ash. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 15:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Could anyone remove that Charmeleon pic? It really has poor quality. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[User:Jmath/Sandbox|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 20:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Zippo == | |||
why does it say Zippo's a Charizard? ---Sk8torchic | |||
:Manga.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|<font color="green">K</font>]][[Gary's Blastoise|<font color="green">kl</font>]][[Blastoise (TCG)|<font color="black">l</font>]][[User:Kkllnn|<font color="pink">nn</font>]] <small>[[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]]</small> 20:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
== "Useless" == | |||
Under "Trivia" it says "When it was a Charmeleon, it was one of the few (if only) Pokemon that Ash deliberately insulted. He called it "useless" in Attack of the Prehistoric Pokemon. (dub only)" When I heard him say this, I understood it to mean that it was useless to try giving orders to Charmeleon. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 02:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
:It also forgets the é and a not in-between if and only (I fixed it now, but whoever added it needs to work on their style). I don't watch the anime, but if it's false, go ahead and remove it. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 02:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC) | |||