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Should we not add into the behavior section that Dusknoir is afraid of light, as it is shown in [[DP090|Ghoul Daze!]]. {{u|Eevee obsessed 008}}
Should we not add into the behavior section that Dusknoir is afraid of light, as it is shown in [[DP090|Ghoul Daze!]]. {{u|Eevee obsessed 008}}
I don't think Dusknoir was actually afraid of the light. When Dawn shown the flashlight on Dusknoir, she was also yelling at Dusknoir thinking he hurt Conway. Dusknoir was waving his hands in innocence, as a way of trying to tell her he didn't hurt Conway. He then floated away from the accusation. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 06:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


== Confusing Trivia ==
== Confusing Trivia ==
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Uhh, "base moves"? What the Furret does that mean? '''[[User:SharKing|<font color="#330099">Shar</font><span style="background:#330099; color:#FFFF00;">K</span><font color="#FFFF00">ing</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:SharKing|<font color="#FF0000">Productions</font>]]</sub>''' 19:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Uhh, "base moves"? What the Furret does that mean? '''[[User:SharKing|<font color="#330099">Shar</font><span style="background:#330099; color:#FFFF00;">K</span><font color="#FFFF00">ing</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:SharKing|<font color="#FF0000">Productions</font>]]</sub>''' 19:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Moves that it learns at level 1. [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 19:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Moves that it learns at level 1. [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 19:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, OK. The terminology confused me, and it might confuse others. We need to rewrite that detail differently. '''[[User:SharKing|<font color="#330099">Shar</font><span style="background:#330099; color:#FFFF00;">K</span><font color="#FFFF00">ing</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:SharKing|<font color="#FF0000">Productions</font>]]</sub>''' 03:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Try coming up with a different, less confusing term for 'Base Moves.' To be honest, I didn't find that confusing. You can assume that Base Moves are moves Dusknoir would learn at the start. But, meh. The only term I can come up with is 'Starter moves.' [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 08:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure if 'Starter moves' would be a very good term to use. Then it sounds as if they mean moves that are within a Starter Pokémon's move set. I personally think that 'Base Moves' is already an easily understandable term, but if we were to change it anyways, then I think something like 'Beginner Moves' would be a more suitable phrase.[[User:ShadowCloak789|ShadowCloak789]] 08:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
== Name Origin Sentence ==
"Dusknoir's name is derived from ''{{wp|dusk}}'' and ''{{wp|black|noir}}'', which is French for ''black''."
That would mean that both dusk and noir means black in French. Which it doesn't.
I changed it to "Dusknoir's name is derived from ''{{wp|dusk}}'', the beginning of darkness in the evening, and ''{{wp|black|noir}}'', which is French for ''black''." someone seems to be against it and removed it. Explain yourself. [[User:Synner|Synner]] 05:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:No, it doesn't mean that. If both meant black in French it would have to be:
::"Dusknoir's name is derived from ''{{wp|dusk}}'' and ''{{wp|black|noir}}'', which '''are''' French for ''black''."
:: Or: "Dusknoir's name is derived from ''{{wp|dusk}}'' and ''{{wp|black|noir}}'', which '''are both''' French for ''black''."
:Since the singular form of the verb "to be" is used, it is a single thing which is referred to. The itallics also eliminate the third possible meaning, which is that the phrase "dusk and noir" means black in French. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 06:10, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
::Your'e right. Since my mothertongue is Swedish the Swedish grammar I'm used to sometimes deludes me. Thanks! [[User:Synner|Synner]] 12:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
== What could that attack have been? ==
In Ghoul Daze, when Dusknoir's eye glowed yellow and he fired that blue orb at the ghost girl, what could that attack have been? I know it was never mentioned what attack it was, but I think it highly resembled Focus Blast, though it might not have been that. Still, would it be worth mentioning that it at least resembles Focus Blast or other similar attack though it wasn't mentioned what it was? I mean a wild Pokémon in the anime may use a move like Scary Face or Sandstorm and even if the move wasn't mentioned, we'd most likely know what attack move that was. Kinda like Paul's Gliscor using Sandstorm (before capture of course) in Riding the Winds of Change and the move name was never explicitly mentioned in that episode. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 10:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
:It looks much more like a {{m|Will-O-Wisp}} (compare with Fantina's Drifblim's) than a {{m|Focus Blast}} (compare with Paul's Ursaring's) to me. Focus Blast in the anime is a near-perfect sphere with a circular ring around it, while Will-O-Wisp is blue fire. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 18:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Nah Dusknoir's Will-O-Wisp earlier in the episode was fiery and shot from his hands. He used it to scare Mitchell and Brock away. Fantina's Drifblim also had a fiery Will-O-Wisp. The orb Dusknoir used on the ghost girl looked to be fired from his eye, and the blue orb was round and quite large, and had no fiery effects. It could very well be a different form of Will-O-Wisp, but I doubt it was. But I do agree it might not have been Focus Blast as Paul's Ursaring and Nando's Lopunny both use a Focus Blast from the hands that has a circular blue effect around it, wheras Dusknoir's "blue orb" didn't have that effect. But other than the circular blue effect, Dusknoir's orb did seem to resemble a Focus Blast in color and shape. Dusknoir also seemed to fire the orb from his eye instead of his hands. But then again Dusknoir was holding Angie and Ash to protect them they would've been sucked in if Dusknoir moved his arms to attack. It could possibly just either be a different version of a Will-O-Wisp, his own version of a Focus Blast that was shot from his face, or just another attack similar to that orb. But we may never know for sure until Nintendo reveals what that attack was. Assumming they ever do. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 08:36, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Like you said, we may never know for sure, but I think it resembles Aura Sphere quite a bit. Not to mention, in the trivia section of the episode itself, it says it highly resembles Aura Sphere. How a Dusknoir would be able to learn that is completely beyond me, but it's certainly something to think about.[[User:ShadowCloak789|ShadowCloak789]] 08:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
== Theatre masks? ==
Are the designs on Dusknoir's torso an allusion to theatre masks? It would shed new light on the name, with "noir" referring to the film genre; which is noted for its dark atmosphere which Dusknoir seems to embody. [[User:EcstasyovDusk|EcstasyovDusk]]EcstasyovDusk