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==Evice and Greevil==
Where in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness does it say that Evice wasn't the head of the original Cipher? I've played through the entire game and talked to everyone afterwards, and have been unable to find any source. - [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 17:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:It's never stated; just assumed as far as I know.  Either [[Chief Sherles|Sherles]] or some lady at [[Pokémon HQ Lab]] says it. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::A lady at the lab says that Evice was only the head of the Orre branch, yes. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 18:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::OK. I found her, but she also didn't state that Evice wasn't the true head of Cipher. She just wondered it. And the other thing I found to be an indication that Cipher v.2 had been around for more than 5 years was the fact that Citidark Isle has been surrounded by violent waves for as long as anyone can remember. And if the researchers had been making the waves, they must have been there for a ''long'' time. --[[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 20:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Logically speaking, the Researchers could be exaggerating, or the wave machine is just enhancing the weather effects. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 01:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, here's that the lady says.

*Blah blah blah Wes saves the day five years ago.
*Back then the leader was named Evice
*Lady wonders if Greevil replaced Evice, or if Evice was a step below Greevil.
[[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 20:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

He's the only Cipher member (other than Naps when he has the Shadow Teddiursa) whose entire team is made up of Shadow Pokémon. He's also got creepy eyes.... [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

It is stated by Sherles in an easily missed conversation at one point that they "arrested a man five years ago named Evice" who "appeared to be the head of Cipher." He then tells you that they discovered "Evice was only the boss of the Orre Region" which means two things: one, Greevil was always the boss of Cipher, and two, Cipher likely has operations in regions other than Orre. 

It's likely that Greevil, not Evice, is also the man who made a fortune in The Under's mines as per an old man in said town's PokéMart in Colosseum as well as the true commissioner of Realgam Tower, as Evice was never mentioned at any point to have possessed any kind of wealth or power outside of being Phenac's Mayor. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 01:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)