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== Brute Force ==

Just to confirm, I was in a Shuffle Discord chat where they were talking about Brute Force being bugged and take advantage of it as long as you can before checking in, because the extra data fixed it. So yes, the increase to Brute Force was a glitch, and it was restored in v1.4.7. Coincidentally, it was around that point I finally started playing again, so I missed a lot of events. RIP me.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:55, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
:So what you're saying is that it was only x3 during the glitch period? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 00:48, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::Yes, I remember reading that something was overpowered but never paid attention. I do remember the version, though, and when Boblers said the version number I realized that's what it had to be. Since he tested it in the current build, I trust that what he has is accurate, and from my memory and that Shuffle chat trust that it was Brute Force, as that was the only thing I believe was fixed the very next day. Unless there's one I'm forgetting.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 01:08, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:::This may be a technicality, but I don't think the increase to Brute Force's multiplier was itself the glitch, though the two did coincide. From what I've read on [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/63jwz2/a_new_bug_found_on_mobile_new_updated_version/ these] [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/63k36i/pokemon_shuffle_update_110_compiled_info/ reddit] [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/63zast/brute_force_bug_fixed/ posts], the actual glitch was that Brute Force boosted the attack of all types instead of only those Not Very Effective against the enemy Pokemon. The official japanese site even announced the x2 -> x3 buff to Brute Force, although they have since deleted it (see the third reddit post for more info on that). The combo multiplier buff just happened to be at the same time as the glitch appeared, and was then removed at the same time as the glitch was fixed. It seems to me that they messed up while attempting to add the buff, and then had to rollback the skill entirely because a fix couldn't be found fast enough. 
:::With this in mind, how should mention this in the Skill article, if at all? Unowninator's edit earlier today that removed the hover-over note on Brute Force got me thinking about this. Would it be more appropriate to put this as a point in the trivia, or as a statement on the skill like "in 3DS v1.4.6 and mobile v1.10-1.10.1, the skill erroneously activated for all types" with the hover-over note on the multiplier restored? [[User:Boblers|Boblers]] ([[User talk:Boblers|talk]]) 03:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::::THAT is what I was missing. Now I wholly remember that the buff was being applied to everything matched in chain with Brute Force, and that was the glitch I read about. I guess I never knew about the 3x buff because I never played it, and didn't know it was added and then removed with the glitch. Thanks for clarifying the sequence of events for me there, Boblers.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:58, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::Well I did try mentioning the glitch, but Pumpkingking undid my edit for some reason. I then wanted to put it in trivia as a compromise, {{tt|but my ban's still in effect|which I'm just realizing has lasted over a year. Isn't this rather overkill?}}. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:03, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::I was just thinking it might be a trivia thing, myself. I'll think about it, but let's leave it be for now. I'll review where you originally edited it.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 04:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::What? When did I do anything of the sort? Are you mixing me up with Boblers? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:19, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Skill&diff=2623299&oldid=2623281 Nope]. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:21, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Ah, I see. It was in the "incomplete" header. Like I said, I'll think about the best way to do it. I'd like to note the glitch somewhere for historical purposes, and information on the glitch can also be preserved at [[Pokémon Shuffle/Version history]] if it isn't already (for the appropriate versions).  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 04:30, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::Oh, that was ages ago and I had forgotten about it by now. Yeah, I think the version history is the best place for it, perhaps with a small note on Brute Force's entry to the gist of "in version X, a glitch affected Brute Force, more details {here}" with a link to the subsection in the version history article. But I really don't think we need to go into a lot of detail on the Skill article, because it was clearly unintended behavior and was patched incredibly quickly. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:57, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
{{indent}} The Version History actually already has a mention of the Brute Force glitch, with the glitch being introduced in 3DS 1.4.6/Mobile 1.10.0 and the fix being implemented in 3DS 1.4.7/Mobile 1.10.2. Is the info in these entries sufficient, or should more info be added to them? [[User:Boblers|Boblers]] ([[User talk:Boblers|talk]]) 05:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

== Skill ==

Please do not just blindly revert something you don't agree with, like you did [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Skill&diff=next&oldid=2642947 here]. Discuss it on the talk page to come to a solution. My reasoning behind removing Pokémon icons was sound in that we have a sortable list at the other page already, and it's pointless to have to bounce around updating data in multiple locations. I don't even understand what you were comparing it to. I personally find icons in the Skill table extremely clunky when we can already sort in the list every single Pokémon that has the skill at quick glance.

I do see as I was typing this that you did post on the talk page there, so I'll discuss it further there.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:47, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:Yeah, when I started typing my undo reason, the talk page was still empty & it didn't occur to me to check until my edit was undone. But I would like to talk to you about this, so like you said, I'll talk to you on the other talk page. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:52, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

== Edit wars ==

Hi! Just to give you a heads up, if there's a plain edit war going on, we ask that users refrain from contributing to the edit war. (It is part of our {{bp|blocking policy|policy}} that we ''can'' block anyone who participates in an edit war.) Instead, please just let a staff member know and wait for us to handle it. If it's basically anything short of simple vandalism, it'll be alright for that long.

Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:01, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:Are you talking about the Serena thing? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:23, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:Also, are you saying that vandalism should be edit warred with? Or am I misunderstanding? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::1) Yes.
::2) It may depend on the severity of the vandalism. If a user replaces whole pages with a wall of vulgar language or images and tries to keep it that way, we certainly don't want that staying up. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:::Got it. Thanks. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:00, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

== Entei (Super Mystery Dungeon) ==

It would be good if you could discuss why you removed the delete tag on the Entei (SMD) page before removing it. As I already mentioned on the discussion page, the page adds nothing new from the [[Legendary beasts (Super Mystery Dungeon)]] page. While I understand that Entei is the most important out of the three, the page is essentially a copy-paste (with a bit less info) of the Legendary beasts (SMD) page. --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:green">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:30, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
:Point taken, TBH, I didn't think of checking the talk page, so it just looked like it was there for no reason. Sorry. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:33, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

== Revelation Dance and Protean ==

Hey, regarding [[Special:Diff/2654937|this edit of yours]], I wanted to ask: Did you test it with a typeless user, and it regained its primary type? Or did you test/confirm it with some dual-typed Pokémon, and it lost its secondary type (like [[Special:Diff/2654946|this]] suggests)? (And if it's the latter, would you be able to test the former?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:00, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, that's right; I forgot about Burn Up. All I did was Skill Swap it to my Oricorio. Now you've gotten me curious. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:29, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
::Okay, if the user is typeless, so is the move. I've tested it with Protean and Color Change. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:22, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
:::Thanks! :) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:55, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

== youtube screenshots ==
How come they're not valid here, I've had no trouble with them before--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:48, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
:They're not allowed without the owner's permission. Sorry, I forgot to mention that part. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:56, 24 June 2017 (UTC)