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==Editing templates==
Hi. Thanks for your correction in [[Template:Anmov/f|here]], however, since this is a high-use traffic template, it means it's being used in +700 pages, and that could cause server stress. Imagine if you were editing a more complex template and you mess up, that could have been a trouble. Luckily, this one was simple enough. Next time, though, try suggesting the changes in the talk page, that way we'll look into it and make the edit entirely bug-free. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 02:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
:I'll be sure to do that in the future. :) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:33, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

== Code of conduct ==

When using edit summaries, please don't make comments [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=BW096&curid=167149&diff=1773464&oldid=1773447&rcid=1888718 like this one] in them. Good grammar is always a first priority here but be nice about it when you fix it. Not everyone here is a native English speaker here and can't always find a way to word things correctly. Telling them to "choke to death" is a little much. Thanks. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 19:08, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

== Scyther and Porygon2 ==

I was actually in an extensive debate about that base stat issue earlier, and I know that Scyther and Scizor actually have *equal* base stat totals. I accounted for that in the Porygon-Z note by specifying that Porygon-Z had lower values in certain stats, despite its base stat total being ''higher'' than Porygon2's. —[[User:Beta Zero|<font color="#000000">'''β'''</font><font color="#BBBBBB">''etA''</font>]] [[User talk:Beta Zero|<font color="#BBBBBB">''Zer''</font><font color="#000000">'''Ø'''</font>]] 01:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)''
:Ah. I guess I read too quickly to absorb that particular clause. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

== [[The Official Pokémon Handbook]] ==

''The TM doesn't learn the move, so the phrasing "learned by TM" is incorrect. ("Learn" and "teach" are not synonyms, despite what street slang tells you.)''
He traveled by train. We got there by any means necessary. Charizard learned Dig by means of a TM.
"By" indeed can be used as "via," "from," or "with." Don't insult my intelligence. I will admit that, in rewording "learnable," I forgot to put "by ''means of'' TM", but I don't feel like I deserved to be condescendingly criticized for it. Have some respect for people who actually add content to the wiki. Oh, and Kenji-girl was being extremely lenient—don't ever wish someone violence because of their writing, even in jest. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 23:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
:Okay, take two steps back from this conversation and breathe for a moment. It's just the Internet. Only on very rare occasions do I actually think less of someone for a grammatical mistake (and usually I will call them out by name); in this case, as in most cases, it's a teaching moment for the benefit of ''any''one who looks in the history, which is why I explain it instead of just silently correcting it. But if you want to think I'm being actively malicious and uppity, fine; there's nothing I can do about your mindset. (And I really shouldn't provoke you by replying to that last statement, but I have to bring it up - if you disapprove of Kenji-girl's lenience, bring it up with her. It's fruitless to say anything to me about it.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:48, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::You clearly haven't learned your lesson since you expressed regret neither to her nor me. That behavior is unacceptable.
::Fruitless? The whole point of this comment is to make you a better editor. I don't care that you corrected my grammar; I care that you put me down. I saw your other incident, so this is obviously an ongoing problem. Bulbapedia welcomes and thanks you for your contributions, just don't add superfluous commentary, whether you intend the attitude of your words or not. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 08:08, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:::If you're really that upset over an incident from ''months'' ago that didn't even involve you, then here goes: I'm sorry that I said something that, in the moment, was taken as far more extreme than it was intended. I can't guarantee that it won't happen again (after all, edit summaries can't be withdrawn after one rethinks), but as I'm sure you can see if you go to my user contributions, two incidents several months apart, out of hundreds of edits, does not an ongoing problem make. (Or do you have a problem with anything else I've said? If so, speak up. I'm glad to hear it.)
:::I'm really trying my best to be civil and listen to what you have to say, but ''your'' tone is making it kind of hard (which is a bit ironic, as you're complaining about ''my'' tone.) If you're a Bulbapedia staff member, I retract everything I'm about to say and am gladly corrected, but since your profile gives no indication of that, I don't see why you think it's your place to (1) bring up an incident from several months ago that an admin has already reprimanded me for, (2) decide that your judgment of that incident's severity is more important than that admin's judgment, and (3) decide that you have the authority to (3a) demand regret, (3b) determine whether something is "an ongoing problem", especially when nobody has commented on it since the initial incident ''months'' ago, (3c) judge what kind of behavior is "unacceptable", (3d) speak on behalf of Bulbapedia as a whole, and (3e) tell someone not to say something because ''you'' think it's "superfluous". I don't know Bulbapedia's talk page policies very well, but on most forums, we call that mini-modding, and it's sternly disapproved of. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::::It "was taken as" far more extreme? You really aren't listening. Surely your forum experience should tell you that hoping someone gnaws off their own foot and chokes on it isn't exactly polite discourse. It was taken much more lightly than it should have been, contrary to your opinion. It's been dealt with, however, and I have no business in it other than to remind you again that you cannot speak that way to anyone for any reason, even terrible grammar.
::::I have no tone; I'm trying to get it in your head how to behave around here. If you don't care at all what anyone other than an admin has to say, fine; it'll save me a lot of time while you keep on your course. My judgment of the incident is my entitled opinion and exists because it relates to a current incident: the tone of your summary. Here I am trying to help you not seem like a unpleasant person, and you say I'm directing the whole wiki. A wiki formed by fans of mostly equal status trying to create a comprehensive and formal database of the Pokémon franchise. I'm making suggestions to you for the greater good. That's all. I've repeated myself plenty—this is my last message, regardless of whether you've taken my advice or not. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 23:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::This conversation is over. Both of you need to take a step back and have some time away from each other. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 07:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

==Talk page conversations==
You knew better than to respond. If you think you probably shouldn't reply, then don't. You're never going to get in trouble for not replying to something like that, but you can get in trouble if you do reply. I'd also appreciate it if you don't tell people how they should be acting, it tends to read as if it's an attack. Leave it to an uninvolved staff member. Thanks. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 07:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

== Image captions ==

In regards to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Battle_Frontier_(Generation_IV)&diff=next&oldid=1844380 this edit summary], the grammatical convention is to not use a full stop unless it is a sentence; in most cases, image captions aren't sentences (although there are exceptions). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 18:40, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks for the clarification. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

== Berry Juice & Shuckle ==

Never knew Shuckle can make Rare Candy out of Berry Juice, but I'm going to try this anyways on my Pokemon Crystal to see if this urban legend is true or not. <br>
[[User:Amanda113122|Amanda113122]] ([[User talk:Amanda113122|talk]]) 05:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Per [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Proton&oldid=1920029| this edit]. I'm facepalming so hard right now. Why didn't I think of that? Anyway, happy editing! --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 00:18, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

== Trvia ==

Stop removing Triva from the pages. It does NOT need to be unique. Trivia means interesting facts. Only  3 of 700 (maybe 800) is pretty unique too btw.  [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 23:10, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
:You seem to be fairly new here, so you aren't familiar with our consensus on trivia. To prevent trivia sections from ballooning out of control, we try to avoid things that apply to more than one Pokemon/evolutionary line/game/etc, since there are ''lots'' of things that apply to two or three things, and duplicating trivia across a lot of pages is repetitive and boring to read. We also try to avoid "first since..." or "only one except..." trivia, since these are basically just rephrasings of "not first" and "not the only one". (And no, anything other than 1 isn't unique at all. The definition of unique is that something is the ''only'' one.) Thanks for your enthusiasm, though! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:35, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Ive been here longer than you have. Trivia does NOT mean unique. Its means INTERESTING, which they are. It does not have to be only one. Please stop removing them. [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 17:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
:Intimidation will get you nowhere. Yes, the definition of trivia used on many other wikis (especially on Wikia) is just anything interesting, but on Bulbapedia we try for a higher caliber encyclopedia. This includes, among other things, disallowing trivia below a certain threshold of notability, because otherwise they get ''un''interesting by the sheer massive volume of so-called "interesting" things that must be trudged through if a user reads the section. For trivia talking about how many of something fit certain criteria, our threshold is that only a single Pokemon, evolutionary family, or other unit can fit the criteria. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

== Grammatical dispute ==

Just to let you know that "was" means once it is but now not only. If using "was" in this sentence, it will lead a wrong message of any Pokémon other than Victini as the first one being available with this move. For example, once Victini is the first one being available with this move, but now, Rayquaza, not Victini, is the first one being available with this move. Fact is fact, and cannot be using any past tenses in a fact. Otherwise, wrong message may be lead. KyleRGiggs 08:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:Also, the event ran once means the the event has already run, it does not change the fact that the event gives a Pokémon with the move out, as the move is currently occur. KyleRGiggs 08:24, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, but you plainly don't understand how a native English speaker would read it. With "is", the statement sounds stilted and wrong because the event is not currently happening. With "was", there is absolutely zero chance that someone could mistake it for saying that Victini and Rayquaza swapped spots, because the state of being first is not mutable. "Was" is simply normal encyclopedic use of the past tense to describe an event (a giveaway) that has already occurred. I'm sorry, but you're simply wrong about this. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:28, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

== Greeting ==

Hello, how are you today? [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 12:17, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
:There's a [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy|talk page policy]], you know. The above [[User_talk:Spyspotter|comment]] is [[Special:Contributions/Spyspotter|supported]] by [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]]. 04:12, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
::Sorry, but if you're going to reprimand people, please do it on their talk page, not mine. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

can u not edit my talk page unless you're adding a message. I hate getting notifications for no reason. thank u. --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 18:31, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
:If you would stop removing the nowiki tags, I wouldn't have to. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
::Ironically, there's a "no editing others talk comments" rule. --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 18:37, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
:::This is a special case, as you've been repeatedly warned, and then blocked, for hidden comments. Putting nowiki around them removes the problem of visibility while leaving your <nowiki><!-- --></nowiki> tags intact to show other editors that the message was originally hidden. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:43, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

== Cedric Juniper ==

When you edited the part about his habits of not completing his sentences, I had that part on the talk page before about how he was doing so since the closed captioning indicated that he was getting interrupted (yet, the topic was left unanswered for awhile so I became bold and changed it to being interrupted). [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:40, 27 July 2013 (UTC)