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== CGI ==

The CGI effects were made for the Japanese DVD of it and not for the dub. --Qwertybub3 02:32, 01 June 2007 (UTC)
:Seeing as the DVD was only released in 2000 and the Japanese VHS with the CGI in late 1999, I'm inclined to think the dub got the new CGI first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 12:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
::If I remember correctly, something was said on the audio commentary about the CGI being added for the dub. Yes, I listen to audio commentaries. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== The movie and the anime ==

Could anyone tell me when the movie timeline is placed compared to the timeline of the anime? :)
[[User:Amargaard|Amargaard]] 19:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

== Who's that pokemon? ==

In the error section of this page it says that meowth gave the wrong names of pokemon. What If he meant to do that, not making it an error?
: I agree, but I thought [[Team Rocket]] made the mistake? Anyway, it only shows their lack of knowledge when it comes to [[Pokémon]] silhouettes, if you catch my drift ... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:: He didn't do that in the original version, only in the English dub. Don't believe that excuse Michael Haigney and Norman Grossfeld gave that they were trying to make Team Rocket look stupid. They're only trying to cover for their mistakes. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
::: Ahh, I haven't seen the Japanese (original) version, I wouldn't understand it anyway. However, have you noticed that, [[James]] has a great knowledge of Pokémon? Probably from all of those tutors from his childhood... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
::::This is what is actually said in the commentary:
::"''That is a mistake that we made.  We actually made a mistake when we did the first draft of the script and we actually recorded that incorrectly.  We did catch ourselves.''"
::"''Right.  I think the son of the sound effects editor noticed it watching the film.''"
::"''Right.  And [this] was before it was completely done and [he] pointed it out to us and we ultimately made - maybe it was laziness or maybe it was genius, I don't know (laughs) - decided to keep the mistake in: a) to make something fun for the kids to spot and also we realised that, well, would Team Rocket actually know every Pokémon and be experts to see the silhouettes and point them out correctly?  And we decided ultimately that they can make a mistake so we can make a mistake.''"
::::That is a long way from your claims, PAK Man, so lay off the 4Kids bashing.
::::As for James's knowledge, that is something that has been developed since movie 1.  Were his cards even seen before AG? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

== Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur ==

If I remember right, didn't Mewtwo have those clones pre-made, and then just faced them off against Shellshocker, Ash's Charizard, and Bruteroot? That'd mean that Togepi wasn't the only uncloned Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, he did already have them.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::<s>That doesn't mean they ''weren't'' uncloned. In the Origin of Mewtwo, they were Bulbasaurtwo, Charmandertwo, and Squirtletwo, all cloned by Dr. Fuji.</s> {{unsigned|PH1RESTRIKE|21:59, 11 February 2009}}
:::Oh wait, scratch that. <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:Blue; color:#78C850"> 1337Fire </span>]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:#FFFFFF; color:Green"> ►strike! </span>]]</span> 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Fearow Trainer? ==

"When the three other Pokémon trainers are taking off, Cory is seen doing it twice, the second time on a Fearow."

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I remember on a fansite, they claimed that it's a different trainer. The Fearow trainer is a girl, too. I think she's in a crowd a few minutes before the trainers leave for New Island.

Oh, and I think that the DVD commentary confirms this, and that she didn't make it to the island. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 12:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I noticed this as well, cuz I zoomed in on the trainer and i think it was som blonde girl with pigtails that you can see near while Officer Jenny was talking. [[User:ShellShocker|ShellShocker]] 10:34, 29 July 2008

== Only film canon to the anime? ==

At least in non-Japanese languages, I'm sure Ash remembers having seen a Lugia from the Orange Islands when he meets [[Silver (Whirl Islands)|Silver]] and its parent. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Okay then. Go ahead and add it; I guess I forgot that.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::The question is, why would any of them not be? Sure, Ash may not remember exactly, but remember, the show can't just assume everyone's seen all of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 02:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, yeah, that's why I used "''confirmed'' as canon," since the other movies may very well be, but it's not obvious because, like the majority of anime movies, the main series may not show any sort of acknowledgment of things that happened in movies.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but then again, sometimes, the series doesn't even acknowledge it's own episodes, no matter how important they really are (eg. Ash forgetting what the P1 Grand Prix was in the Tyrogue episode despite participating, becoming champion of, and loaning his [[Primeape|champ pokemon]] to the runner up, May claiming that she used Skitty in the Fallabor contest when she actually used Beautifly, Ash forgetting double battles despite the fact that the reason why he won HALF of the Orange League Badges IS because of Double Battles, etc, etc.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mewtwo's Origin for rating? ==

I don't get it, how could "Mewtwo's Origin" prevent the theatrical version from keeping its "G" rating? [[Image:Ani384MS.gif]][[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 07:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"Mewtwo's Origin" is a little dark for younger audiences. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:You say 'a little dark,' I say 3 pokemon and a human die in it. Not an ambiguous death like Ash's, a clear death. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Just a question. ==

Anybody know who composed the music/background music for this movie? D: [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto</b>!</span>]] 11:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

== Team Aqua Logo? ==

I watched the movie on VHS after reading this aritcle and I think the Trivia should be changed. The so called logo on the bandana is simply a skull and cross bones not an "A". If it was related to anything it should say that it resembles a koffing. Thats my opinion. [[User:Rucario64]]
:Opinion goes on forums. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub>''09:35 1 Jul 2008'''''

It is neither the Team Aqua logo, nor a normal Skull and Crossbones.  The emblem on the trainers head is the emblem that appears on the stomach of the pokemon Koffing and Weezing. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Retcon? ==

Looking back at Ash's revival, it may have been the power of Aura that revived him. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have proof? the only thing i remember that revived him were the tears of the Pokémon that cried when they saw him turn to stone; just as the legend said. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Confused ==

Okay, so I'm a bit confused about the short "Mewtwo's origin"...there is a CD drama, right? is that just a plain audio CD? If so, then what is the 12 minute clip that was cut from the dubbed version of the 1st movie? And what's with Madam Boss and Miyamoto? All i know is Miyamoto saw Mew in the mountains and hasn't been heard from again. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

I know that there are conventions that determine where the movies take place in the Pokemon storyline, and that said conventions place this movie between The Pi-Kahuna and Make Room For Gloom, but I believe it takes place much later: Specifically, between Pallet Party Panic and A Scare in the Air.  My material evidence is that when the brainwashed Nurse Joy in the movie requests that Ash and company release all their pokemon, there is no sign of Pidgeotto.  Less concrete is my feeling that, up to the point of The Pi-Kahuna, Ash had not accomplished anything that would have gained him sufficient notoriety to cause trainers from as far away as Johto (as indicated by the presence of a Donphan in the party of the trainer that challenges Ash in the movie's opening) to specifically seek Ash out.  It would require a feat as significant as placing in the top 16 of his first Pokemon League Competition.  I would like others to weigh in on this issue. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 05:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Just because someone has a non-native Poke to the current region, doesn't mean they're from that region, sure it seems like that alot, but it doesn't always have to...Just sayin...--[[User:PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''Psychic'''</sup>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#000000;">'''Rider'''</sub>]]''<small>''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''☮'''</sup>]]''</small> 05:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==Two issues==
One user added the fact that Ash's Charizard obeyed him in this movie, but I don't find it believable because Ash never gave orders to Charizard and that Charizard attacked Mewtwo without warning. Does anybody agree?

Also, would it be proper to mention that the movie's dub title is a reference to Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back? --[[User:Rockersk08|<font color="black">rock</font>]][[User talk:Rockersk08|<font color="blue">ersk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|<font color="red">08</font>]] 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

:I won't comment on your first point, though I do believe that the Star Wars note should be added to the trivia section, especially since articles on episodes have similar notes. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:: Thanks for input. I put it on the page, so let's see how it goes. I'm still waiting for comment on the first topic I put. --[[User:Rockersk08|<font color="black">rock</font>]][[User talk:Rockersk08|<font color="blue">ersk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|<font color="red">08</font>]] 01:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== New Articles ==

I suggest the creation of (at least) 3 new articles: one for Clone Pokemon, one for the clone Pikachu, and one for the clone Meowth.  The clone Pikachu and Meowth deserve their own pages because they have personalities and abilities distinct from their originals.  A page on Clone Pokemon can refer to Pokemon created by Mewtwo and the his creators, as well as Fossil Pokemon.  [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 02:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:Please do, and when you do, make a COMPLETE list of the clone Pokemon [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

== Wrong information about removed scenes ==

I am pretty much sure that the scenes about Mewtwo's childhood, Amber etc weren't removed from the original movie, they rather didn't exist back then yet! The first movie aired in July 1998 in Japan, the prequel in September 1999 as a "radio drama" in Japan, later on as a short anime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mewtwo#In_anime_and_related_media And that's what I also remember.
Maybe it's not important, maybe I'm just that interested in this because I highly hated the prequel.
Since til now I was only here to edit minor mistakes, preferably about German Names etc, I couldn't change it myself if my complaint proves itself to be correct.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Aicona}} ([[User talk:Aicona|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aicona|contribs]]) ''</small>

:It was removed from the American version of Pokemon 2000[[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

two things about the coment just before mine: 1: I have the origin of Mewtwo short on my English copy, of [[m01|the first movie]], and 2, are you sure you mean the american version of [[m02|Pokemon 2000?]]  you need to be carefull about that, just to let you know, nothing negative. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian Woods]] [[User talk:Christian Woods| Azu!]] 05:48, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Sentret ==

I was watching the movie and there is a Pokémon that looks like it. And it's in the article. Is this speculation or fact?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 01:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm... I'll go check. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
[http://i50.tinypic.com/2m6agwj.jpg]<br>
Eh, sorry it's so big. But no, it's not a Sentret. That's a very {{tt|badly drawn Eevee|even if it isn't, the tail isn't a Sentret's}} in the middle, and the one on the left is either a Mankey or a Meowth. The animation isn't all that great, being the first movie and all, but it's not a Sentret either way. I also went back to the beginning of the movie, and there isn't a Sentret in the Pokémon Center during the first storm scene either. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:48, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Meowth and clone talk ==

Why is the subject about Meowth and his cloen talking about the moon when istead they talk about learning the lesson about what's the same and what's different? [[User:Jedi Striker|Jedi Striker]] 16:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:Because he talks about how they share the same moon.... '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Errors ==

If [http://www.ffufi.net/pokemon/M1_Mistakes.html this] website is correct, should we add these? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]</span> 18:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:We have them on the page already. There's an <span class="plainlinks">[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M01#Errors errors]</span> section. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

==Blu-Ray==
I know this is probably not worth pursuing further, but the wikipedia page for Mewtwo Strikes Back says that the film will be released on Blu-ray disc on April 19, 2011. Can anybody cite this?--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 19:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Possibly not an error? ==

When Nurse joy said she'd rather be in Mewtwo's storm, than watch the Pokémon fighting, didn't Mewtwo say earlier "They [cloned Pokémon] will remain safe on this island with me, while my storm destroys the planet." when he was capturing all the Pokémon? [[User:Whatinthew0rld|Whatinthew0rld]] 18:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

::She said this sentence towards the end of the movie. [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:30, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== New error ==

Added in the error about Fergus stating all his pokémon were water types when he has Nidoqueen. [[User:Moffooo|Moffooo]] 17:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

== Danish sub, "Vingingerne" ==

The trivia in the article says "In the Danish version Brock says 'Jeg vidste ikke vikingerne stadig fantes.', and Ash replies 'Jo, men de turnere mest i Sverige.'". I have not seen the Danish dub, but if that is correct then that is most certainly a reference to the Swedish dansband [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikingarna_(band) Vikingarna]. I don't know if this is something that should be added to the article though.

--[[User:Phil832|Phil832]] 22:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

== Togepi #152 ==

The article lists Togepi being listed as Pokémon #152 as an error.

I'm pretty sure back in those days, Pokémon and their numbers were meant to signify the order of their discovery as a '''live specimen.''' Which is why prehistoric Pokémon have higher numbers, & why Mewtwo is before Mew. It was also thrown around that the numbers was the order of their induction into being classified as a Pokémon. Plus both were a way around explaining why everyone in/on Pokémon games/anime/merchandise kept saying there were only 150 ('''known''') Pokémon.

I think at some point this numbering explanation has been forgotten/abandoned by most fans/official sources.

This movie also takes place before much of the structure to the Generation II and the Pokédex numbering in the games in general was laid down. So if anything, Togepi's number should be Trivia not a error. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 17:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:It stays as an error because if I remember correctly DVD release came out after the Generation II games were introduced in America. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 17:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::Your theory about Pokédex numbers is incorrect... there'd be several exceptions if that were the case.  First off, it is stated that Todd's photo of Aerodactyl was the first picture ever taken of it, implying that it had never been seen before then.  However, Dratini was in an episode earlier in the series, and his number is higher than Aerodactyl's.  Same thing with Snorlax.  Also, the legendary birds... they were known to exist in the second episode.  As for Mew... I'm pretty sure that she had been seen by at least someone in South America much earlier.  Which brings up another point... who has to be the one seeing these Pokémon before adding them to the Pokédex?  Could a South American native's sighting be enough or does it need to be a researcher?  Also, Mewtwo was most likely never seen by anyone with that authority, since the only people who knew of him were the scientists who created him (who were all killed), Team Rocket (who wouldn't have reported his existance), or trainers like Gary who battled him (who wouldn't have the "authority" as a researcher of adding him), so he'd never have been added to the Pokédex (and in the anime, he wasn't shown to be).  So yeah, that definitely wouldn't work if we're talking anime.  If we're talking games, it still wouldn't work, since Mew gave birth to Mewtwo, meaning that the scientists must have had a living Mew before Mewtwo was around, and their sighting of Mew would have listed her in the Pokédex before Mewtwo. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

==Should this be noted?==
I read on dogasu.bulbagarden.net that in response to [[EP038]], there was a message before this movie saying that the movie had no flashing lights and it was safe to watch. Should it be noted here? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 23:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)