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::::I don't understand why you're trying to connect the game world with the manga world. First of all, the Aster in the manga was supposed to become the Lorekeeper only shortly before her death, after which Zinnia took the mantle immediately, whereas the person in this anime short is already a Lorekeeper while Zinnia is still a small child. Saying "there are no other options" is false, since it is based on the false belief that the Draconids are just 2-3 people at most, when it's established that there's an entire tribe of them. Thus you shouldn't rush to label the first Draconid you see to be Aster. --[[User:Tempest370|Tempest370]] ([[User talk:Tempest370|talk]]) 14:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC) | ::::I don't understand why you're trying to connect the game world with the manga world. First of all, the Aster in the manga was supposed to become the Lorekeeper only shortly before her death, after which Zinnia took the mantle immediately, whereas the person in this anime short is already a Lorekeeper while Zinnia is still a small child. Saying "there are no other options" is false, since it is based on the false belief that the Draconids are just 2-3 people at most, when it's established that there's an entire tribe of them. Thus you shouldn't rush to label the first Draconid you see to be Aster. --[[User:Tempest370|Tempest370]] ([[User talk:Tempest370|talk]]) 14:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
::::There's also the whole thing about how in the manga it's spelled that it was Aster who was supposed to be the one to summon Rayquaza, yet in the anime short we can see child!Zinnia throwing pokeballs at a drawing of a Rayquaza. Don't say that "there are no other options" when it's just as likely that Aster was some other kid she was friends with, and the woman in the short was just Zinnia's mother. And if Zinnia's mother is indeed Aster, then why does Zinnia keep referring to her by her first name? What child does that? Don't they all call their parent just "mom"? Bottom line, there is no conclusive proof to identify the woman as Aster. The only thing we can be sure of is that she's a member of the Draconids, and a Lorekeeper. Anything else is just wild guessing for now. --[[User:Tempest370|Tempest370]] ([[User talk:Tempest370|talk]]) 14:36, 10 December 2021 (UTC) | ::::There's also the whole thing about how in the manga it's spelled that it was Aster who was supposed to be the one to summon Rayquaza, yet in the anime short we can see child!Zinnia throwing pokeballs at a drawing of a Rayquaza. Don't say that "there are no other options" when it's just as likely that Aster was some other kid she was friends with, and the woman in the short was just Zinnia's mother. And if Zinnia's mother is indeed Aster, then why does Zinnia keep referring to her by her first name? What child does that? Don't they all call their parent just "mom"? Bottom line, there is no conclusive proof to identify the woman as Aster. The only thing we can be sure of is that she's a member of the Draconids, and a Lorekeeper. Anything else is just wild guessing for now. --[[User:Tempest370|Tempest370]] ([[User talk:Tempest370|talk]]) 14:36, 10 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
::::::Worst of all, I'm relying on official material that talks about the character and you're using guesswork that doesn't make any sense. By the way, what are you trying to prove exactly? Did the Pokémon Evolutions team use a random woman in Zinnia's training when they could be using Aster? For me there is no doubt about the identity of the woman, but to not continue this small talk, just edit the image (which is still valid, after all there is Zinnia as a child) and remove mentions of Aster. That's simple..--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 17:43, 10 December 2021 (UTC) | |||