User talk:Zhen Lin/Archive 1

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Has the session timeout length been shortened? Lately it seems like I turn around for a minute to do something else, and I suddenly have to log in again.( Again, you can just answer here). -- WikidSmaht 16:49, 19 March 2006 (CST)

I do not know - perhaps it is a server issue. - 振霖T 18:49, 19 March 2006 (CST)

Edit count

Hi. A question: how do you made the edit count in your subpage? Regards, --Slade 02:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucratic powers

I think I should be classified as a bureaucrat, not just a sysop. The "Authority" section of Bulbapedia:Editorial board says I should be one (as it stands now I can't revoke/give power). If you could change that, it'd be great. Thanks. --Argy 04:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


All right, I think overall redirects for episode titles are done. However, as long as I'm on this orienteering kick - would it be overkill to, say, have Episode 5 redirect to EP005, or Advanced Generation Episode 57 redirect to AG057? Or having redirects of the Japanese names of Pokémon to their English-name articles, both literal and romanized, like Sandopan and Sandpan redirect to Sandslash (Pokémon)? I mean, if so, I'll leave those things to BulbaBot, but... --Pie 18:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

It's overkill for neither. All four sets of redirects you mentioned would be ideal. If I were new and I wanted to search for a particular episode, I wouldn't know to input EP### or AG### instead of just a number. --Argy 04:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
The episode redirects I can do. I would love to do the Pokémon redirects - I'm always searching for the equivalent English names, but I don't have the lists in a database, so that will have to be done later. - 振霖T 07:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
What about using the List of Japanese Pokémon names? Or would that information have to be copied to somewhere else first? Admittedly, I don't know a lot about how BulbaBot works. --Pie 07:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
The format is not exactly ideal - which is the problem. - 振霖T 07:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you need help?

Do you need help with any article, I would be happy to help you with an article. I am best at editing parts related to the Video Games or Anime, if you want me to edit any article and help you, I would be very happy to do it for you. Helping others is a good idea, as it can get changes made quicker. If you want me to help, leave a message in my talk page. Thanks I Love Minun (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


  • Quote from the Pokémon article on Wikipedia:

Pokémon has only belatedly made its way to the Islamic world, at this point, in Saudi Arabia. The driving point behind this factor is the belief that the trading card game promotes with cards. In most moderate Islamic countries, such as Turkey and Pakistan, it poses no threat. In Iran, for example, the game is relatively popular, and the Pokémon logo and characters are widely recognizable in much of the Muslim world.

There are also other sites with the same informations, but, if you think they aren't reliable, erase them. N.B: I don't speak Arabic so I can't guarantee for them.


Kind of. The (Gameboy only) GAMES didn't come here for a long while, the cards are hard to find now but were everywhere before- The Pokemon anime was here for a LONG time, but stopped after Johto Journeys, we never got the dub of Master Quest for some reason. I don't know why... I can read Arabic. ^^ -reads- ... My, was that BORING. xDD; That guy kept going on and on about Contests and stuff. -blink- I didn't find any information about what you're talking about on that particular topic.

The name of the topic, by the way is 'Advice to Game-players of Ruby and Sapphire Part Two.' --Musashi

About Japanese edition of Bulbapedia

Thank you give me a messege. I am interested in Japanese edition of Bulbapedia. But A already have Japanese edition of Pokemon encyclopedia . It use Mediawiki. This wiki was named by me to Pokemon Wiki(ポケモンWiki).
But this wiki has some problems.for Example Bulbapedia uses "Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike" license,But Pokemon Wiki use no license.Of course,I think I admit use article of Pokemon Wiki to similar project.But Pokemon Wiki can't use same,I think they can't admit use article of Bulbapedia and similar project to Pokemon Wiki.As other example Pokemon Wiki cannot help using web sarver space with advertisement.So,It can't use NonCommercial license. But if you want to connect link. Please write my page FPU.

P.S Mediawiki cleared same message when I clicked preview.I write short it again--FPU 16:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

User JavaScript

It's not a major concern to me personally if I can have custom JS or not. The main reason that I wanted it was the lack of a Redirect button on the article edit toolbar (like there is over at Wikipedia). If you allow user JS, great, if not, that's fine with me too. --TwinsMetsFan 03:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Pokémon physical data

Would it be possible to have a bot add height and weight (both metric and U.S.) to the Pokémon infoboxes? I could compile all the information if that's the biggest hurdle. If not, I'll probably just add them manually... --Argy 18:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I have all the information required for a infobox expansion to match the one on the Japanese site. Problem: the conversion to imperial units may be incorrect due to differences in rounding. I will need to work out the exact conversion algorithm first. - 振霖T 23:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

The users registered by BulbaBot

Who are all those users BulbaBot registered today? User142 (Talk) 13:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

All users are registered that way now. - 振霖T 01:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Why are you welcoming yourself?

Because i didn't get an automated welcome message.

Why, is it wrong?

No, nothing's wrong. ☆☆

Just out of curiosity

What instructions is Drapion repeatedly failing to follow? I'd say that would more apply to Sesler, but perhaps I'm just missing something. --Pie 01:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Oops, wrong user. - 振霖T 06:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


Why can't I upload images??? (Jsmith 15:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC))

Perhaps because you are trying to upload to the wrong place? Try this page. - 振霖T 17:27, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

List of Japanese Pokémon names

I've been working on adding the new Pokémon to the Japanese list, but I'm not very good at Romanization. I took all of the Katakana I could find direcly from screenshots on different sites, so I believe all of those are right, but I'm pretty sure some of my Romanizations are wrong. I would really like someone who is skilled at Japanese to take a look at it, and would really appreciate it if you would do it. Drapion 23:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


Sorry for a bad job I did....<_> (Jsmith 00:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC))


I've responded on my talk page. :o -Sketchies 00:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, got it now

Apologies for the mess with those tags. I got it now, I'll fix it...--ElectAbuzzzz 18:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


E-macron (Ē ē) is rarely used, 'except with the interjection ええ and some foreign loanwords.

As the "ee" of "oneesan" does not refer to the interjection "ee" for agreement and is not a's "oneesan".--Urutapu 03:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

It is, however the same (rare) phoneme as ええ, the long mid-open vowel, as opposed to the more common えい, which is the long mid-close vowel. Therefore it's onē-san. - 振霖T 05:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


Hi, I'm a new user here, although rest assured I know all the rules, and use common sense. I was wondering; I see you have all the base data and etc. for Diamond and Pearl, so I had 2 questions:

  1. How do you get this data? What tools do you use to obtain it from the game?
  2. In R/S/E, all Pokémon had Hoenn numbers internally, to prevent Missingno. like glitches. Bulbasaur being 203, etc...they were in National order. So I was wondering here, does the same apply for Diamond and Pearl? Does every Pokémon internally have Shinou numbers? Bulbasaur being 152, etc...?

Sorry if these seem like stupid questions. Nice work, by the way. MK 01:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

  1. By knowing what to look for. We write our own extraction tools.
  2. No, all other Pokémon are assigned Shin'ō number 0, which shows up as #??? if you have not obtained the National Dex. - 振霖T 07:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
  1. I assume you play the game and look for changes in the RAM? Or possibly look for the base data in the hex of the ROM and find the pattern? I assume the latter.
  2. That's odd... I know in my FireRed game, I initiated a trade with LeafGreen. In LeafGreen I had a Wobbuffet in my party, but FireRed did not have the national Pokédex. It still allowed me to pick which to trade and even look at Wobbuffet's status screen from FireRed, and it had the number #???, but it obviously would not allow me to trade it. So, I know it does this for Ruby and Sapphire, but I guess they abandoned the system after that. I'll have to look into it more... MK 08:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


Point taken on things like evolution with Dragon Scale, Magma Booster,and Electro Booster. Should they all be moved to something like Category:Pokémon that evolve through a unique method? Tom Temprotran 06:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Quick Question

Hi! New member. I have a doubt: Is there a policy for Pokemon Icons? You know, the little moveing images that are ripped from the "Party Status" menu. May I add them or there is a rule against? Thanks. Gambler 06:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there something in particular you want to use it for? - 振霖T 09:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The abilities page and maybe in every article to put it to the left or rght of the name. Make it look more like a Pokedex or something. Gambler 16:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

That is excessive and will cause undue load in terms of bandwidth. - 振霖T 03:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

A task for BulbaBot to do

I've started to put generation numbers on the Pokémon of generations 1 through 3. Can you please have BulbaBot finish this task? User142 (Talk) 18:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Bulbabot Task

Hey. I've noticed that pretty much no templates are in the Templates category. Any way you could have Bulbabot go through the entire Template: namespace and pop in <noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude> to those that don't have it, please? Thanks in advance! Tom Temprotran 15:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Images Crisis イメージクライシス

May you please tell me why I can't upload images on Bulbapedia Archives. Why is User: Taylor is the only one? He is the one that started that edit war when he was reverting or uploading an already existed image. User: Taylor is changing the images that I searched for. It is a waste of time and replacing what I personally feel is better content. If a screenshot is already provided, which was provided by another user, and someone changes the image to a different verison it's plain and simply rude

No, it's not. Why just you choose the images? I had the idea of a screenshot to each episode. Why continue using NextOn images only? The best thing to do is choose one of episode images to show. NextOn images may be used while there are no episode screenshots. And I will continue reverting the images: This line is a sign that he will continue vandalizing and reverting the images that I reverted.

User: Taylor choosed alot of images (Original Kanto, Johto Journeys, Advanced Battle and Battle Frontier, and the first 3 of Pokemon Advanced and the first 6 of Pokemon DP.

Why are you on his side. How can I be obstructing work when I am just uploading images that I like, and he is just changing the images and reverting them?

Please end this. (Jsmith 18:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

(Jsmith 18:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

You haven't done much to endear yourself to this administration. So don't complain when we have to pick sides that are equally guilty that we pick the one that hasn't caused us so many headaches. - 振霖T 02:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? So you are picking on me?
Why are you being unfair with me on the archives. Please unblock me. I think you are taking sides with Taylor. I want to upload images to it is A free enclyopedia which means anyone can edit. You are not being a good admin.
Because you are acting like an idiot who doesn't understand the meaning of the word no, because you start revert wars, because you use sockpuppets, because you evade bans, because your choice of pictures is ugly - there are plenty of reasons we could give. Also, I think it would be good for you to sit down and ponder this quote: Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. - 振霖T 06:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


Hello, I have a question, on the archives do you know about the error on creating a new account?

No such special page

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Do you know why there is an error. May you please fix it. I want to upload some images of the Diamond and Pearl gym learders and gym map (from the site;

Thank you.

(22:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC))

copying from wikipedia

I got warned by Pokencyclopedia that I shouldn't copy from Wikipedia. Is copying from Wikipedia really against Bulbapedia policy? I don't think it is a copyvio.Pokeymonfan 02:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

You shouldn't, and it is. - 振霖T 05:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean by "it is."? That copying from WP is against BP policy, (addendum: Why doesn't it say so on the policy page?) or that copying from WP is copyvio? And, if you mean that copying from WP is copyvio, I think you are wrong, because WP is in public domain. Pokeymonfan 13:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. Bulbapedia and Wikipedia alike are not in public domain (I suggest you read up more on the topic on Wikipedia), and, are very much protected under copyright. It's just that we use an open content licence, which grants people many rights, including the ability to modify and republish a work, which often causes confusion with public domain status. Now, as for policy, we don't have formal rules regarding the matter because we approach it on a case-by-case basis. But, a few general rules apply, and the golden rule is, no intermixing of Bulbapedia and Wikipedia content, its corollary being, articles should only be copied from Wikipedia if no Bulbapedia article already exists. - 振霖T 01:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I always thought that wp was licensed under gfdl (a copyleft license) and now you are telling me that wp is protected under copyright? -- Pokeymonfan 03:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

And, Wikipedia is open-content as well! -- Pokeymonfan 03:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Did you even read the articles you linked to? Copyleft is a play on the word copyright and is the practice of using copyright law to remove restrictions on distributing copies and modified versions of a work for others and require that the same freedoms be preserved in modified versions. That is not the same as public domain status. - 振霖T 04:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

ok I get it now, thanks Pokeymonfan wuznt here 00:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC) (my new signature)

Just 2 cents

Hi! Just giving my opinion ok? Please don't take this as a personal attack or nothing, since through text is really difficult to emphasise calm. Look, I like working in here, in fact I think that this project can and will go a long way. However, I have seen a lot of pages marked as stubs when there is really not that much information to add to it. Now, the problem is that this game has a lot of crossing info, moves repeat, evos come and go and so on. A person just entering PKMN gets really confused, specially with names and concepts. I know that images tend to take downloading time, but it's also true that they make a page a lot more enjoyable and because there are a lot of other PKMN pages out there you should try new formats instead of repeating the same. And as far as the stretch, the problem with the bullet design is that it stretches it to the right, which is a lot less desireable that a vertical scroll. Ok, Maybe I did wrong trying to add a Pokemon per edit, but it's a lot of work anyways and I don't have where to save it if not in the workpages. Thanks anyway. Gambler 08:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

This is an encyclopaedia. An encyclopaedia is meant to be concise, precise and to-the-point, pardon my redundancy. It is not a beginner's resource. Being enjoyable is not a primary objective of an encyclopaedia, being informative is. I would much rather you direct your efforts to adding actual information. Now, you are free to disagree with the editorial board, however, you are not free to implement your ideas when disapproval has been expressed. Therefore, consider this a warning - if we say no, we mean no, and you will be barred from editing if you decide to ignore us again. - 振霖T 09:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Pokémon links-Psypoke

Any reason that Psypoke isn't on the list of sites Bulbapedia pages link to? It would seem to me that it should. User142 (Talk) 12:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

It would seem to me that the reason is an oversight - no one thought of it. If this is the case, then it should be put in; if it isn't the case - please let me know what the reason is. User142 (Talk) 11:48, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
There are so many links in the box. Unless there's a good reason - that is, information that none of the other sites has - to add more links, we should actually be thinking of removing links. - 振霖T 17:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you assess this TCG article format?

I have been working on a new format for articles on Pokémon cards, as the current official format is... somewhat lacking. You can take a look at how it's doing here. It is important that I have a good idea of its quality. I would like to know what can be improved and what is already good enough. I am not all sure what the procedures for replacing a big article template are, but I am confident that this one will turn out better than the current one. -Happy Mask Man 03:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

It looks better than the current format. However, I wonder how extensible the infobox is? Is it capable of dealing gracefully with missing information? Will the content of it vary between old cards and new cards? - 振霖T 15:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, each card series will have varying information in the infobox. Cards that do not have the Pokédex data will not have it in the infobox. E-cards will have their e-card ID and a heading in the main article space about what the data on the card is. Promo card articles will detail the promotion used to distribute them. Cards that have a widespread misprint will mention that too. Actually, I'm not too sure whether to put some things in the infobox or the article space. Should the height, weight, and number be in the Pokédex section, the GB ID's in the Card GB section, and the e-card ID in the e-card section? In the e-card series, things such as height and weight are in the E-reader data for cards with dot codes, but cards with no e-card data have that information printed on the card. That seems like enough reason to put it in the main article space, with the oddity of it. Since inclusion in the Game Boy games isn't really something you can count on, it might be better to put the ID numbers from those games into the "In Pokémon Card GB" section. Putting things like that into the main article space might make the infobox easier to use. -Happy Mask Man 04:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, the keyword is gracefully. How do you plan to implement it as a template? In any case - the kind of information that goes into the infobox should be simple facts or numbers, to summarise the card; the article body should describe the use of the card, opinions about it, and yes, errors and misprint. - 振霖T 05:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that is what I meant. Sorry if I implied putting such things in the infobox. Like I said, the decisions I have left to make are whether or not to put some things that are in the infobox right now in the main article space. I am not too sure how template procedures work, but looking at other templates, I guess that each of the three main kinds of cards would get its own template. By moving some of the things that are exclusive to certain cards, such as levels and the like, to the main article space, it ought to be easier to deal with just one template for each kind of card. That leaves the English/Japanese set thing to deal with, with all of the cards that were only released in one or the other. I guess we could just put "None" for those, which would leave us with only one template needed for each of the three kinds of cards, which can easily be filled in with everything. Is that what you meant by "gracefully"? -Happy Mask Man 03:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I think I've got it figured out now. We should only need one template for each of the main kinds of cards like this. Information related to the card's set and the identification ought to just be put at the bottom of the table manually. That way, we won't need to have a bunch of blank rows for things that aren't there. Doing that would make it easy to work out such complications of regional releases. With all of that considered, it leaves everything else in the infobox being only things that apply to all cards of their group. All that ought to be left now is to do the actual making of the template, which shouldn't be too hard, with it being a simple infobox. After all, it's completely flawless now, right? -Happy Mask Man 23:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
That sounds about right. - 振霖T 07:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Now there has been terrible disagreement between Pie and me. Now I have been trying to make compromise and change the project to what Pie wants it to be, but I believe that some things are better off one way and Pie insists on it being another way. We keep arguing in circles with, say, Pie saying that we should name articles with the English card numbers and me saying that we should disambiguate with the levels on the cards when there are. Pie would say that the levels don't mean anything and I would say that they're universal and that the numbers don't mean anything either. It would repeat over and over. I'd say that we should organize naming card articles by how they were set up before they were mixed and jumbled for the English version and Pie would say no... It just keeps going on like that. Pie keeps talking about her position as a style editor and how she knows best. She says that if I want to do something about it, I need authority to back me up. So I come here asking for some of this to be resolved. To get a decision or something. I just want the TCG project to be able to move forward, see. I'm getting very tired of these arguments. It just isn't working. -Happy Mask Man 08:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
If an argument can go on for so long and is basically just repeating the same arguments over and over, then it must be a sign that neither option is better. However, since my position on the holographic card issue is that the holo and non-holo variants of what would otherwise be exactly the same card should be in the same article, this gives the levels option a very small advantage over the numbers option, assuming that there are no Pokémon cards with the same name, set and level but different content. However, as I am no longer familiar with the TCG, I cannot make an informed decision. Please contact Archaic instead. - 振霖T 11:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
For the record, there are Pokemon cards with the same name, no levels throughout the EX series, and within the same set in the US game. HMM's solution to this problem is to organize all cards by Japanese sets, but I don't think that's a good idea since most visitors here would be unfamiliar with that format. --Zeta 21:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Concur'd. English organization should take priority, period. --Pie ~ 22:23, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
It is not organized by Japanese sets. The card articles are only named that way if they were originally parts of other sets. All of the set's articles will still list the English set list by the English numbers first. The focus is still English. After all, the articles are titled like "Bulbasaur (Base Set)", not "Fushigidane (Booster Pack: 1st)" The names are just spread out because there are a lot of sets that are split and spread across for the English sets. Like say, EX Emerald, which is completely made of a jumble of Japanese decks. No matter how they are mixed, however, the set list will list the cards of the English set and numbers first and foremost. Some of the card articles' names may be different because they were originally parts of different sets, but because the card is part of that set in English, it is listed there in the English list, which is the one that is first and foremost in a set's article, and not in the Japanese list. -Happy Mask Man 23:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


小さい誤植に気付きました。 「ワレオモウユエニワレアリ」の代わりに3番目の行が「ワレオモフユヱニワレアリ」であるべきです。 あら捜しを許してくださいねw - 蟻塚 01:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

わかりません。今書いてあるのは「ワレオモフユヱニワレアリ」ではないのですか。 - 振霖T 13:07, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
「ワレオモウユエニワレアリ」is the correct form, the one you are using has some minor typos. あら捜しを許してください(Sorry to nitpick) :)- 蟻塚 11:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
『3番目の行が「ワレオモフユヱニワレアリ」の代わりに「ワレオモウユエニワレアリ」であるはずです』と言ったら良かったのにね。とにかく、歴史的仮名遣を御存じではないんですか。 - 振霖T 07:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Moving Shinichiro Miki

It won't let me move Shinichiro Miki to Shin'ichirō Miki because it says the page already exists. Is it because there's already a redirect page with that name? --PAK Man 00:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Link templates

Why are link templates used? [[Absorb (move)|]] works. --Raijinili 13:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Because it's more compact. We don't have unlimited resources in terms of space and bandwidth, you know. - 振霖T 13:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Does that mean that I'd better make sure to get my edits right the first time? --Raijinili 13:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
That too, of course. - 振霖T 15:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


Sorry, but it didn't work. The main problem was getting stuff like Pay Day to work (i.e. the spaces). The caps weren't a problem. Perhaps we should speak to the site owner about his formatting? --Raijinili 15:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


Lists like the one found here exist or can be implemented into bulbapedia? Gambler 03:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, you mean the sortable lists? Yes, of course. It's part of MediaWiki 1.9. - 振霖T 01:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

==My Status==

Hey Zhen--

I appear to no longer have admin powers on the 'pedia. Was this intentional? If so, I would appreciate it if I got them back, simply in case of an emergency. Namely, I wanted to delete's_Poketicle(pokemon_article) and was unable to.

evkl 21:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, were you logged in? As far as I can tell you have the same user groups as some of the other staff. - 振霖T 07:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


I have tryied everything but it keeps coming up with this: ** (remove the astrixes) message, can you help?

If you read the forum thread you started, you would know the answer is no. - 振霖T 12:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much. You are a life saver!!!

A minor task for BulbaBot

Greetings. Maybe this one isn't that necessary because of redirect pages, but perhaps a routine for fixing the capitalization of Pokémon move names would make readers learn the exact way they should be typed (especially those with middle caps as shown since Generation IV). Not only names of Pokémon moves, but also names of some items from the games. Even Nintendo crossovers such as Super Smash Bros. and related material are starting to use such a convention, as seen here. --Johans 20:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


I noticed that a lot of accounts that haven't been used have been created in the past few days. I suspect that they are sock puppets for a vandal waiting to strike. Could you consider this? I can't do anything about the accounts because I have no admin powers. Carnivine 22 March 2007

Can you please do something about all these unused accounts? As much as I hate to admit it, Maxim is right. That page did smell like an add. Who knows how many more could come. Carnivine

No. I cannot delete accounts simply because they appear to be unused. It is not atypical to see many accounts registered per day, and the vast majority of users never make a single edit. Please inform any administrator if you see any ongoing large-scale vandalism. - 振霖T 07:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


You might want to speak to IDeoxys. If you want ot know why, check the history of his talk page.


I don't know what you mean in your message, if is about the move's caps tell me wich would be the ideal size.

Moving page problems

Zhen, you might wanna check out You & Me & Pokémon, if you can. The system has the article stored there, but always opens up the nonexistant You & Me page, even when using the move function. I don't know how to fix it. --Pie ~ 19:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah well, may as well extend the workaround for one ampersand to two... - 振霖T 01:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Page Editing

Whoops, sorry - didn't realise it was a problem. I'll just edit the entire thing in one go, though it's easier with the items to see the item icons so I can match them up with my data. I think it should be fine to just use the preview though.

Sorry. ^^'--Doctor Oak 16:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh my god, i cant believe u swore at me and all me facts are based on real information. All my information are based on websites or books

He never swore at you. -- Kenji Girl 07:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I think that he's talking about the letter. I've never seen a letter swear, though. --TTEchidna 22:46, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I Like This Name

Thanks for the offer, but I really just wanted to change the name of the page, not my real user name. - Yukushi wisdom 16:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

DP encounter data

I would like to start putting this data into the pages for Cities and Routes of Sinnoh, and I can see that you have the files, but I have virtually zero experience with Japanese, so having everything in English would be extremely helpful. Drapion 16:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Just a small addition to what I said earlier, I have now done up Twinleaf Town with encounter data. I could go a lot faster with the pages in English, but I'll work with the Japanese for now. Drapion 17:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
The tables have been updated. See here for an explanation of how to read the substitute tables. Also please don't merge rows for which the level ranges are different. Please review the edits I have made to your table. - 振霖T 04:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a ton for the English. I'll be sure to check out that forum thread as soon as I can reach it, veekun seems to be having some problems. And I'll be sure to keep the separate level ranges separate in the future. Drapion 01:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if you must have the National Dex to get the Super Rod (it can only be found in the Fight Area), but I do know that beating the E4 is required, so perhaps all the Super Rod entries should be listed under After National Dex. - 振霖T 08:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

question reguarding Bulbapedia's Userspace policies

Namely, does Bulbapedia have any policies/restrictions when it comes to a user's userspace? I've been checking through the policies and rules, and I couldn't find anything on the subject. I'm planning to create a sub-page in my userspace (e.g.: User:Jioruji Derako/subpage), but I don't want to go right ahead and create anything if there's a rule against it that I didn't notice yet. Is it alright for me to do this, or would I be running into a rules issue or something of the sort? Thanks in advance. -- Jioruji Derako.> 12:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

There are no formal rules, but obviously there will be some things that will result in administrative action. - 振霖T 13:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Alright, so basically, as long as I follow common sense (no making an entire encyclopedia-worth of subpages), I should be fine, correct? I just have some large items (a sortable PokéDex, namely) that I like having around for ease of use, but it's taking up a lot of space on my userpage (because it's long). Making a single subpage shouldn't be a big deal, I assume? And I'm sure if I go overboard (which I don't plan to do), it's not a hard job to simply delete it and give me a warning. -- Jioruji Derako.> 15:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopaediae Pokémonis

Hi Zhen, I've got a stupid question for you: I might create a Pokémon wiki in another language if it has enough support. How can it become a part of Encyclopaediae Pokémonis?

Also, unless you've considered already, you might want to have a look at some useful MediaWiki extensions for Bulbapedia:

Thanks for your time. :) --Cipher Admin Ein (Talk with Master Ein) (Ein Files) 14:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

The most important criterion is licensing: you must use a Creative Commons by-nc-sa licence. Then, the next criterion is activity: you must have enough articles and users to show that the project won't become dormant. This has happened to one previous applicant - after more than a year of being open, there were only 125 articles or so. Of course, numbers may be boosted by bot-created articles, but in the end it's the users that determine the success or failure of a wiki. Therefore, Encyclopaediae does not usually accept applications from newly-created or not-yet-public wiki projects: it is hard to gauge the potential at such an early stage. - 振霖T 02:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply. I've got two stupid questions more:
  1. If/when I create that wiki, can I get the code for those miscellanous parser hooks? I'm sure they'd be useful.
  2. Secondly, how much disk space Bulbapedia takes currently?
Thanks for your time! :) --Cipher Admin Ein (Talk with Master Ein) (Ein Files) 10:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
The Bulbapedia database is approximately 936.7MB at the moment. Bulbagarden Archives consumes approximately 659MB of disk space and its database is 68.6MB in size. - 振霖T 11:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


Well, I already knew both of those, but I didn't know how to make an é. But ow that I look around, I notice the character palette.

Tropius and Tangela

Ok, I feel that a good deal of the information in this encyclopedia is taken from Serebii, and that worries me. It would seem to me that, at least from the encounter data that you have, Tangela and Tropius are not obtainable in Diamond or Pearl in any way besides Pal Park. The bad news is that this flies right in the face of Serebii saying that all non-starter non-legendaries are available. I'd be happy to change those articles based just off of your data, seeing as it was taken directly from the game's code, but first I want to be abolutely sure. Can you confirm for me that Tangela and Tropius are not available in Diamond and Pearl? Drapion 18:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Just in case the info helps, apparently Tropius was made available in D/P via a Nintendo Event (at least in Japan). For Serebii's reasoning, that's technically a Tropius not obtained via Pal Park... don't know if that info's relevant, just something I dug up when Googling Tropius. -- Jioruji Derako.> 21:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
P.S.: There's a trainer in D/P who uses a Tropius, so you can still get it in your PokéDex without trading...
There was some dispute about this the first time I published the data. I don't in fact know if they are unavailable or not, but I can say that if it's not in the data, it's not available through regular means. (i.e. it might be a special case within game code.) But according to Coronis, according to the DP National Dex guidebooks, the two are Pal Park only. - 振霖T 07:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Account creation problems

I've talked several people in the IRC chat to consider registering for Bulbapedia and contributing... only to find that they're all getting errors when they try and register accounts. Did you turn off account creation for some reason? --Pie ~ 20:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Diamond and Pearl

I was wondering, are Diamond and Pearl worth buying when they are released in the UK in a few weeks time. I have been disapointed before with Pokémon games as they sometimes don't add enough new things, and as this is the first DS Pokémon game i was wondering is it different than before and in what ways? Reply here or on my talk page! ¡иąтнąи! | Talk | Email| 16:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I personally think they're worth getting. There's quite a lot of new additions in these games (Sinnoh Underground is fun, for example)... online Battle Tower is a blast, as well. I've already started transferring most of my Pokémon over from Emerald and the other games, because I just don't think I can go back to playing those at this point anymore. The new additions to the battle system (Sp. and normal Attack based on the move itself, rather then the move's type) really make a difference as well, and make the battles a little deeper. The only thing I miss from Emerald is Battle Frontier, but the new Battle Tower and the surrounding area have similar challenges (I haven't battled far enough, but after enough fights in the Tower you'll run into bosses just like the Frontier Brains).
I think you'd at the very least get your money's worth on one of the two.</twocents> -- Jioruji Derako.> 19:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Ash and Lucas

You're telling me that there's absolutely no similarities between Ash's and Lucas's outfits? I mean look at the vest and pants. And if you see their backpacks there the same except Ash's is green. - Kenji-girl

thumb|left|150px thumb|left|150px

Let's stick to what the pokedex says?

Where exactly does the pokedex say Shellos is Purple? --Dekubobo 12:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Same place it says Charizard is red. It's in the data as color identification. --TTEchidna 19:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I know the third gen games had that option to search based on color, but i can't find such a thing in my pearl version --Dekubobo 20:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Irrelevant. The data for colour is present in the tables. - 振霖T 02:33, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Response on my talk page. --Empoleon ''Bono'' Bonaparte 03:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

New Bulbapedian called FREAKAZOID!

Intro and Fanfiction Idea

Hi! I'm FREAKAZOID (I know I started being a Bulbapedian sometime during April), and I'm known to drive everyone totally insane! Right now, I'm working on a fanfic called "PokéFriends in Need!" I'm keeping it on Microsoft PowerPoint for now. It's a work-in-progress.

Here's the plot: Team Rocket, Team Galactic and Pokémon Hunter J and her minions, after being transformed into Pokémon, plan to capture talking Pokémon and take over Pokémon Square, and it's up to Ash and company and all the Rescue Teams of Pokémon Square to stop them.

Sincerly, User:FREAKAZOID!

Request for resources or instruction

I'm very sorry you didn't like my table for the Accessory page, but could you at least show me where to find the format you used? I attempted to use the MediaWiki's method of pipe table creation, but apparently that isn't what you like. Is there any place that shows color codes and/or the preformatted versions of the CSS table styles you're calling?

As a new user it's rather difficult for me to make something "pretty" when I don't have the necessary knowledge to do so.

I was going to at least provide all the information for the Contest accessories and their performance in various classes, but if the only comment I'm going to get is "What a hideous table" then I'll just take my time elsewhere...

Embri 22:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Hosting possibilities

Hi Zhen Lin. I'd like to discuss a possibility with you, because I saw the discussion concerning whether or not you were going to incorporate Google Adsense. Purely out of curiosity, would you be interested in increasing the level of partnership that we currently share with you at StrategyWiki? We would be interested in hosting you, and possibly eliminating your hosting expenses completely. Obviously, your domain is important to you, and I would want to make sure that you could keep it, but whether you could or you couldn't, we could also set up an domain. If this is something that you don't have any interest in, I understand, but if it's something that you'd like to consider, I'd love to talk to you about it. Please let me know what you think either on my talk page here or on SW. Thanks very much for your time. Procyon 23:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your offer, but we are not thinking about changing hosts at the moment. However, it is important that Bulbapedia be understood not merely as an entity that is hosted by Bulbagarden but instead as a part of the network of sites that comprise Bulbagarden. - 振霖T 12:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Understood. Thank you for your response. Keep us in mind if anything ever changes, we would love to work more closely with you in the future. Procyon 17:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

How can I make it so that the picture in my signature is on the same line as the text? --Shiny NoctowlTalk|Trivia quiz

01:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have the table so that it links to the page on Octillery instead of to its image page. -Shiny NoctowlTalk|Trivia quiz

01:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

PS:I used this template. --Shiny NoctowlTalk|Trivia quiz

01:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


How come this template won't work? It's just a bunch of "if" statements. --Shiny NoctowlTalk|Fun 22:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Ads Here? Vote Now.

How long has that message been there? Months? Years? Without hostility of any kind, I'm wondering when something is actually going to happen regarding it. -Politoed666 23:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Vote agianst ads. Surely you, as the founder, and a loyal member and administrator of Bulbapedia, care about the site's image, and don't want that image tarnished by tacky-looking, and sometimes pornographic, ads. --Shiny NoctowlTalk | Fun 00:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

The ads we have are not pornographic. I see Pokémon ringtones up there now. Call in the national guard, Shiny. Seriously, they aren't flashing banner ads, they're just Google. TTEchidna 21:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
As long as the ads are REASONABLE, I see no problem with having them on SOME PAGES. -Politoed666 23:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


has apparently returned...check the user creation log and be ready to do some blocking. -Politoed666 21:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Yea, I bet that he has a million windows open and he is going to save tem all at once --Theryguy512

1000 Edits

Do all contributions on my contributions page count, or only edits meeting a certain criteria? --Shiny NoctowlTalk | Contribs 01:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Is that out of all of my edits, or just out of this month? --Shiny NoctowlTalk | Contribs 23:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
P.S. What are the other criteria? --Shiny NoctowlTalk | Contribs 23:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Please answer me. --Shiny NoctowlTalk | Contribs 21:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
He could be busy. :( TinaTheKirlia 21:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I checked his contributions. He has been on here since I posted the question. --Shiny NoctowlTalk | Contribs 22:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Didn't know that. ^^; TinaTheKirlia 22:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Does deserve its own article?

Tino768 18:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

It should be possible to write a good one. - 振霖T 00:49, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

A project: Bulbapedia in Spanish

Hello, I am Gta Ed and I am so interested about Pokémon. I saw this page and I think is awesome. I can speak Spanish, and I would like to create (of course, with your help) The Bulbapedia in Spanish. I do not know how to create a Wiki (I was trying before, but finally, I didn’t). If we do the Bulbapedia in Spanish, you could do the script and those thing and I (with help too) can write the content in Spanish. Obviously, with the same templates, logo and other things. Tell me what you think about it. My mail is [email protected] If you want to know more about me or the “project”, just ask me. Bye.

--Gta Ed 19:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok. If someday you want to create the Spanish Bulbapedia, just tell me.--Gta Ed 00:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


Please ban User:Deanpeps! He is vandalizing pages and i'm doing my best to revert them! --Theryguy512 11:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


I just donated via paypal and you seem to be the person to report this to. Iliekmudkips 03:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


Can you please ban Bukendaa? He put all of this stuff on Mew page, but I undid it. --Theryguy512 13:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


Hi Zhen Lin, I'm from the PokéWiki and was wondering who is operating the WikiBot there. Is it you? Filb does not know about it. However, this bot adds interwiki links. I would like to do that too with a bot - i'm already running a bot, but cannot get it work with two or more langauges. You use the Pywikimediabot, I assume? ...well, many questions. Hope you can help me. MewX 12:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiBot is an account used by various bots, including, yes, a pywikipedia bot, which I operate. - 振霖T 14:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok then, how do you configure the family? I cannot get it work with these different url type (here with /wiki/ and on pokewiki with just /.." could you post your family-file? MewX 16:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I could, but then you must first tell me why you want to operate a pywikipedia bot? - 振霖T 18:18, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, in the german wiki I am operating one. And there I / we need it to ... do things you need bots for ^^ e.g. I added this prev-next templates to the pokemon pages, I fix spelling mistakes... things like that. Here in Bulbapedia I don't want to do such things, I just want to add interwiki links automaticly to the wikis... And I don't know why, but it does not work. I tried this:
class Family(family.Family):
    def __init__(self):
        family.Family.__init__(self) = 'pokewiki'
        self.langs = {
            'de': '',
            'en': '',
        self.namespaces[4] = {
            '_default': [u'Pok\351Wiki', self.namespaces[4]['_default']],
        self.namespaces[5] = {
            '_default': [u'Pok\351Wiki Diskussion', self.namespaces[5]['_default']],

    def version(self, code):
        return "1.10"

	def path(self, code):
		return '/index.php' #The path of index.php
	def login_address(self, code):
		return '/Special:Userlogin' #The path of index.php

Hm. MewX 19:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I see... - 振霖T 01:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
# -*- coding: utf-8  -*-

__version__ = '$Id:,v 1.1 2006/10/25 12:45:24 leogregianin Exp $'

import family

# The MediaWiki family
# usernames['mediawiki']['mediawiki'] = 'User name'

class Family(family.Family):
        def __init__(self):

       = 'encyclopaediae'

                self.langs = {
                        'de' : '',
                        'el' : '',
                        'en' : '',
                        'fr' : '',
                        'ja' : '',
                        'pl' : '',

                self.namespaces[2]['pl'] = u'Użytkownik';
                self.namespaces[3]['pl'] = u'Dyskusja użytkownika';

                self.namespaces[4] = {
                        '_default' : [u'Project', self.namespaces[4]['_default']],
                        'de' : u'PokéWiki',
                        'el' : u'HPW',
                        'en' : u'Bulbapedia',
                        'fr' : u'Poképédia',
                        'ja' : u'ポケモンWiki',
                        'pl' : u'Wikinezka',
                self.namespaces[5] = {
                        '_default' : [u'Project talk', self.namespaces[5]['_default']],
                        'de' : u'PokéWiki Diskussion',
                        'el' : u'HPW συζήτηση',
                        'en' : u'Bulbapedia talk',
                        'fr' : u'Discussion Poképédia',
                        'ja' : u'ポケモンWiki‐ノート',
                        'pl' : u'Dyskusja Wikinezka',

                self.namespaces[102] = {
                        'en' : u'Browse',

                self.namespaces[103] = {
                        'en' : u'Browse talk',

                self.namespaces[104] = {
                        'en' : u'Shipping',

                self.namespaces[105] = {
                        'en' : u'Shipping talk',

                self.namespaces[106] = {
                        'en' : u'Appendix',

                self.namespaces[107] = {
                        'en' : u'Appendix talk',

                self.mainpages = {
                        'de' : u'Hauptseite',
                        'el' : u'Αρχική σελίδα',
                        'en' : u'Main Page',
                        'fr' : u'Accueil',
                        'ja' : u'メインページ',
                        'pl' : u'Strona główna',

        def dbName(self, code):
                if code == 'en':
                        return 'themozz_mediawiki'
                if code == 'ja':
                        return 'pokewiki_pokemonwikidb'
                if code == 'fr':
                        return 'pokepedia_pw_'
                if code == 'de':
                        return 'pokewiki'

        def path(self, code):
                if code == 'en' or code == 'ja':
                        return '/w/index.php'
                if code == 'de' or code == 'el'  or code == 'pl' or code == 'fr':
                        return '/index.php'
Alright, that works, thanks. It would probably be clever to create a bot account :-) --- i promise you I will only work on interwiki links with that bot. can you give the bot flag to my account MewBot ?! MewX 09:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Plus, I think I'm too stupid, I ran the bot but it didn't change any links. How do I have to start it? I simply did python -start:!... Hm. MewX 10:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Please refer to the documentation on the MediaWiki and Meta sites. - 振霖T 11:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Well alright it's working now. Thank you. MewX 13:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, me again, I'd like to run my bot in ja: aswell. I saw that you're a buerokrat there, too. The bot does it's work very nice on de, fr and en... Thank you! (I created an account there, ja:利用者:MewBot. ) greets MewX 18:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


Please ban User:JohnnyRebel!!! TinaTheKirlia, me and Politoed666 have been reverting all of his vandalism! --Theryguy512 01:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH! --Theryguy512 01:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Damn JohnnyRebel!

(I apologize for using a mild expletive in the section title without warning. However, given the severity of the situation, I feel it may have been warranted. Censor if you must.) Because of that idiot JohnnyRebel, Old Rod (Neo Revelation 64) has been replaced by a broken redirect. Legitimate content was deleted when the target was taken out. Is it possible to restore the legitimate content? If not, I'll gladly recreate the article. --Shiningpikablu252 01:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --Shiningpikablu252 01:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Recent Vandalism

As I mentioned elsewhere, you seem to have a real problem with vandalism lately. Autoconfirmation would probably really help, and maybe some other bits of security. I don't know very much about the inner workings of MediaWiki or anything, but if you need some advice, I can point you who to ask. I'm also a member of the Homestar Runner Wiki (in fact, I'm a sysop there), and we had some severe problems just like this a while back. It's largely stopped now, due in part to our security tightening (the other part comes from dedicated users, which you don't seem to be in short supply of here). If you want some advice, direction, or anything on security of your own, I'd ask It's dot com, who is one of our developers and largely responsible for much of the maintenance and care of our wiki. I know he'd be glad to help you out, if he is able, and all you'd have to do is drop him a line on his talk page or email. This site has all sorts of awesome content, and I'd hate to see it ravaged by vandals on a frequent basis. So I'm tryin' to help you out a little. Hoping to see you soon, --DarkfireTaimatsu 08:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with DarkfireTaimatsu, this is a good idea. --Theryguy512 11:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree that we could be doing more - the question is, what more should we do? - 振霖T 11:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Are the users you're blocking more sockpuppets or what? They aren't in the user creation log...enlighten me. -Politoed666

Suggestion 1

Warning: When reading this suggestion, you might become furious and want to ban me for life (Please don't!) My first suggestion is a rather stupid one: Giving some of us the power to ban new sockpuppets. I mean like you can give TinaTheKirlia, me, Politoed666, and some other people who have been here for a long time the ability to ban new vandalist and sockpuppets. By long time I mean people who have been on the top cotributor of the month like three times, made over 1,000 edits in a month, never got banned (Well I got banned by accident, you can ask Evkl or me for more info), something along those lines. Evkl and I discussed this a little bit.... --Theryguy512 23:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

So basically, you mean Tina, Politoed, you, me, and Shiningpikablu252? ShinyTalk | Contribs 00:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

EXACTLY! --Theryguy512 00:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

What I'd like to know, is why someone would give an 11 year old Admin status. ^^;; (That'd be me. Haha.) Tina 00:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I think he's just suggesting to give us the power to block users, not all of the admin powers. ShinyTalk | Contribs 00:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Shiny is Exactly right. Give a few of us just the power to ban. --Theryguy512 11:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Administrative power is given, not requested. That said, I will consider your request and consult with other members of staff... - 振霖T 14:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
It was just a suggestion. And you don't have to give us all admin powers, really only the power to ban (If that's possible) --Theryguy512 19:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Also, if you gave him the power, I bet the first person he'd block is (don't faint with surprise) me. Optimatum♏Talk|Hi 12:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
1. No, I would not do that, Optimus. 2. I wasn't thinking only me, but others like Tina and Tesh would too. 3. Can we just drop this discussion? It was a bad idea anyway. MERRY CHRISTMAS 14:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion 2

My second suggestion is that you make new users unable to edit. Wikipedia has this on some articles. Having new users unable to edit or move pages for a time will give admins a good chance to ban them. This will create a lot less sockpuppet attacks........ --Theryguy512 23:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Unless they're patient and just make a lot of sleeper accounts and wait for them to go active... Fortunately, most vandals aren't this patient/clever. --DarkfireTaimatsu 00:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The protection of the Archives

Hey Zhen Lin, I wanted to upload the G/S/C sprites to the archive (now that we have that nice template) but the entire place seems to be protected, for only bot use. Can you enable rights for me at least? I'd really like to get those sprites up so the pages don't look so messy. MK 14:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Um, I think I can help (even though I'm not Zhen Lin)! I just went on, and it's not protected. I think you just have to make an account on Archives. Your account on Bulbapedia and an account on Archives are different. --Theryguy512 14:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way to upload images straight from other sources to the archives? They're bogging down my computer. --ニョロトノ666


Can you please pan User:Cerberus‎? He changed Paul from Pokémon Trainer to Pokémon 'Jirk'! --Theryguy512 16:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion to prevent vandalism

I am not sure if it's possible, but is there a way to block someone's MAC address? We could use this in extreme cases like the recent vandalism we have been suffering. It would make it impossible for vandals to just use proxys to circumvent a ban. If it is possible, I suggest that you consider this option. After all, I don't speak for all of Bulbapedia. Let me know what you think. Albedo667 23:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

MAC addresses are lost quite quickly when traversing the internet. Even if they were not they are still easily spoofed. - 振霖T 07:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Vandal Alert!!!

User's named User:Vudlgur, User:WhydowebanPh34rwhenhesawesome, and User:Ph34rulz‎ wer just created! Ph34rulz‎ said he won't be bad, the other Ph34r one din't respond, but the Vudlgur one is TOTALLY a vandal!!! --Theryguy512 13:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for helping us! --Theryguy512 13:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

He deleted my user page! BAN HIM!Sonic Pikachu 15:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM!!!! VANDAL!!!! --Theryguy512 15:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for blocking him (again....). The other admins weren't responding. --Theryguy512 16:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Er, hi. I know the User No.1 Fan in real life and he told me at school that he made the account Ph34rulz, and deleted his own User page. He told me it was a small prank he was doing on Bulbapedia(I didn't like the idea, but when I found out he had already done it), but now his ip-address has been blocked and he asked me if you will stop blocking it. I personally think he should wait a while before you remove it, but its your choice. Evee44 Talk page 20:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I, Theryguy512, think that anyone that who creates a vandal for a "joke" should be banned for life. Not to point fingers, but some other users have been doing it, too. It's not funny. --Theryguy512 20:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You know, I never would have done it if it were not for Optimus35. If I hadn't seen him and knew he got away with it, I wouldn't have done it. Personally, I think he should be banned.Sonic Pikachu 18:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Why does that excuse you from being banned???? It was your choice weither or not to make a sockpuppet, and you did. --Theryguy512 20:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

If it wasn't for Optimus35 I would have never done it. And I couldn't wait for APril Fols day. Wish they did it more often...Sonic Pikachu 18:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC) PS: Why did I get unbanned?

I, Theryguy512 apoligize, Zhen Lin, for having this arguement on your talk page.

You're missing the point! It was your choice! You didn't have to create one, but you did! And what, you're gonna create one for April Fools and say that some other user did it, so you thought it was okay? --Theryguy512 20:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Lol, I'm starting to hate you guys. THREE MONTHS AND YOU'RE STILL ACCUSSING ME? THREE! ARGH! SOME FRIENDS YOU ARE! Optimatum♏Talk|Hi 02:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

CAN YOU STOP WITH THIS PATHETIC DISCUSSION?! He did the Sockpuppet, end of the story!!! -うずまき ハルカ 21:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I know it was wrong. But, not trying to make another arguement, if you ban me, ban him aswell.Sonic Pikachu RTP|1#fan 09:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


Vandals can go to Internet Cafés and vandalise with one computer. Once that computer's IP has been blocked, the vandal can easily stop his session and move on to another computer, and so on so forth. It is just a theory to explai JohnnyRebel's constant user creation...Optimatum♏Talk|Hi 11:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Some people have dynamic IPs... they can basically change the IP address at will by simply resetting it. Sometimes, in such a case, a ranged block (blocking an entire IP range) is in order, though the side effect is possible accidental bans of other users living nearby. -- Jioruji Derako.> 13:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Could that explain Netto-kun's inaccessibility to Bulbapedia? Optimatum♏Talk|Hi 13:13, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
theres also something called proxies. going to to an internet cafe to vandalize is lol. most likely they are making use of a proxy. Blocking them is about as useless as catchign smoke with your hands, considering i can come up with three off the top of my head.Dark0805 (talk|contribs) 15:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


The "did you know" section has this:

that Pokémon is banned in Saudi Arabia for assumptions of promoting Zionism and gambling? 

but a quick search of the pokemon article shows, apparently, that info has been removed. It's a minor concern but it probably looks pretty stupid to have a "did you know" that no longer exists. I can't edit the main page but i know it's possible for an admin to fix something like that.Dark0805 (talk|contribs) 15:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Top contributors

Erm... a vandal is on the list for November. It's Tina The Kirlia (The one with spaces. Not me. XD;), and I think you should replace that with a user that _isn't_ a vandal. Just wanted to let you know. Tina δ 04:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

move data

Hi! Maybe it is a stupid question, but I was wondering wether you maybe could obtain all these move data with which your bot created all the articles - on german ;-) Our move-articles on pokewiki are very uncomplete and it would take up hours and hours to add all those data by hand... Well, if not, I'll just continue to search :-) greets, MewX 20:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

wait, I think i can get along with the complete pokedex.sql filb sent me... I think the data is included there. MewX 12:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm afraid I'm going to ask more questions about Bots :-) I assume you worked with a MySQL-DB (maybe with the same DB Filb sent me?) creating all the pokemon articles with BulbaBot? Do you have a python/php/whatever script which has set the pages together out of the DB? It would save me *much* time if you maybe could .... give that script to me (if you have)? You would help PokéWiki a lot :-) Thanks for your help. MewX 20:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Smogon links

I recently found out about Smogon's beta site, and tried to add it to the templates for links. However, I have a very unstable connection with this site right now, and I don't have time today to wait for the site to be working 100%, especially since I'm afraid I'll forget to finish later if I put it on hold. If I don't finish, can you please finish for me? This is the goal:

For your convenience, though I don't doubt that you can find the edit links yourself. [1] [2] [3] [4] --Raijinili 20:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I got them all. Thanks. --Raijinili 20:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Policy on Policies?

I've got a few ideas for a new policy for Bulbapedia, but I've no idea how to go about submitting it. On most other Wikis, there's always a few Policies being worked on, generally in a Draft format; does Bulbapedia work in the same way? Any insight would be great. -- Jioruji Derako.> 08:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Please submit policies for discussion to the Bulbapedia forum linked in the navigation menu. - 振霖T 14:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Alrighty, thanks a bunch. -- Jioruji Derako.> 23:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Name change?

If I got a name change, would that mean that I'd have to move everything that's in the 'User:TinaTheKirlia/' namespace to the new one? Cause I've been thinking about a name change to just Tina, but then I realized how much stuff I had in my namespace.. Tina δ 23:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

That is correct. - 振霖T 01:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. Okay. Think I'll just stick with my current one, then.. Tina δ 01:31, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
But what about Yukushi wisdom? Optimatum♏Talk|Hi 12:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

BulbaBot request

The Generation 4 Pokémon don't have the entry for their Smogon links. --Raijinili 23:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Is it really necessary? I don't believe so. Some clever use of magic words, functions and default parameters should do the trick. - 振霖T 00:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Consistency with other link templates, no? Anyway, I certainly don't know how this would be done, so you'd have to do it. --Raijinili 03:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Question on Furoms

Somebody had a question of forums (the post can be found here) that both Sketchies AND evkl couldn't answer, so....hopefully you can. It seems that the person is having trouble editing on Bulbapedia. If you could help, that would be great. --Theryguy512 23:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


Since we don't have it, I think that It would be an excillent idea to be able to do what MarioWiki does and put a list of current-online users on the recent changes list. Mario Wiki has it, [5], and TTEchidna told me to ask you if you can get it. --Theryguy512 00:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I saw the Extension for that feature when I was browsing MediaWiki Extensions a few days ago... (I've got my own wiki up and running, so I've been trying everything I can out.) The extension isn't listed on MarioWiki's Special:Version page, but I think I can find it back on MediaWiki's Extension list, of you want to find it... -- Jioruji Derako.> 05:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's a little present to RyGuy. [6]PokeManiac102 05:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, that's the one, hehe. You found that quickly... thing I'm not sure about is how MarioWiki set theirs up to show on RecentChanges... from what I know, the Extension can be displayed anywhere you choose, I haven't looked into how to change RecentChanges yet, though... I suppose it's got its own .php file or something? -- Jioruji Derako.> 05:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I have an account there and I placed it on my userpage.[7]PokeManiac102 05:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I could ask Cobold who or how to install it.PokeManiac102 05:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Well should I?PokeManiac102 06:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

About how it was set up on the Recent Changes page, that's a special page so it can't be edited normally.PokeManiac102 06:20, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

To display it, one must type this

<b>Users Online</b>: <whosonline></whosonline>

PokeManiac102 06:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WelcomeBot? (or UserBot)

I had an idea for a WelcomeBot (or maybe UserBot, haven't decided yet). This bot would automatically put the {{subst:Welcome}} on a new user's talk page automatically when the account is created. What do you think? --Theryguy512 23:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Not even Mariowiki has this. This may be our chance to surpass them since we are back to having less articles than them.PokeManiac102 23:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, if you wouldn't mind, would you allow me to control it, as you did with MewX/MewBot??? --Theryguy512 23:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

*cough* *cough* *hurls* Sorry. No reason for that.PokeManiac102 23:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I suggested this bot since many users are forgotten and don't recieve the welcome message, and therefore don't know how to edit. On MarioWiki (which I found many months after Bulba), I NEVER got a welcome message, and found the users there not very polite. That's why I want this bot.

P.S. Why are you so competitive with MarioWiki, Pokemaniac? --Theryguy512 00:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, I got no clue how to program something like this.....So could you? --Theryguy512 00:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Because you seemed to be. How to program what? The online thing? or the Welcome thing?PokeManiac102 00:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I'm asking how to program the bot. --Theryguy512 00:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
You did get a welcome thing on the Mariowiki website. And I think you found it because you found out that I found it.PokeManiac102 00:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
No, I saw that other people had the welcome thing, so I found the template and put it on my talk page myself. --Theryguy512 00:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and if you like this idea, can it be called UserBot?. --Theryguy512 00:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I want it to be called UserBot since it may do other User-related things besides just putting the welcome message on their talk pages...--Theryguy512 01:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
A problem. Since the part about not vandalising is in there, you'll be liek, I dunno, feeding the trols? (Note: Misspellins argh orn poorpose...) PH34RИван 07:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Well what do you think, Zhen? --Theryguy512 12:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The welcoming committee seems more than capable of handling this, I see no reason for a bot. - 振霖T 15:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, you're right. P.S. Can you please look at [8] for my other suggestion? (Look in above section). --Theryguy512 00:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I know you already made up your mind and I shouldn't be argueing with you, but I just found four users who did not get the welcome message. Now, I know that TTEchidna says he goes through the user creation log to see if the new users have talk pages or not, and if they do, they have the message. But I have found a flaw in this: Even if they have a talk page, it doesn't mean they have the message; it could just mean that someone posted on their talk page, probably yelling telling them that they did not edit right, which is because they didn't get their message. .....So if we make you make a bot that automatically puts the message on their talk pages when the accounts are created, people wouldn't have to yell at them for not doing it right. ......Once again, sorry for debating agaisnt you...--Theryguy512 13:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm guessing this long silence is a 'no'? --Theryguy512 20:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

3 Things

1: New anime category suggestion -- running gags. Actually, I could do this myself... if I remembered how to make a new catergory.. ^^; 2: We should add footprint sprites into the Pokédex. 3: I found some images that could be used for the Colosseum and XD trainers. Only problem is that they're not mine. They're at Pokémon-Safari and are found here and here. Well, that's all. We'll see how it goes. --Manga-in-a-bottle 06:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


hello, I am Andrewrox! I have just a quick question, I am an admin on en:SpongePedia and I was wondering if you know how to edit the writing under the article name. for example:


From Bulbapedia, the community driven Pokemon Encyclopedia. Ho do you edit it, reply on my talk page :) --Andrewrox 08:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hundreds of anime images...needed?

I was looking at the Most linked to categories on the Archives and noticed that a handful of the anime episodes have about 180 images each. I'm fairly certain that these images are not needed, and that the sheer number of them violates fair use. Should I start deleted many if not most of them? I'd check each for links of course, but I think deleting the ones that are not used is a good idea. MK 14:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

That is correct. At one point we were going to put up such screenshot galleries for all new episodes, however the project fell through. I do not think it is necessary to delete them, though. - 振霖T 15:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Your Bot

Hello, I'm Emeralda from the German PokéWiki. I saw, that your Bot adds the Pokédex-Data on the move-pages. Can you give me your Script, please? I would be very grateful to you, because we have small problems. --Emeralda 16:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry about my terrible englisch! :-) --Emeralda 19:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me for butting-in on this conversation, but I just want to notify you, Emeralda, that BulbaBot does much, much more than just adding Dex Data. --Theryguy512 22:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I konw. But I only want the Dex Data. --Emeralda 05:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Please, we ned this data! --Emeralda 15:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I think Filb has the data. pika also has the data. - 振霖T 16:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Mmhh...Thank's, but why you can't mail me the data? --Emeralda 18:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


PLEASE UPDATE THIS SERVER SOMEHOW! There has been too many internal server errors, database errors, 500 server errors, disconnections to the server, and disconnection between the server and the World Wide Web. Also, it takes too many minutes for each page to load, often resulting in a crash.PokeManiac102 01:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

While we would very much like to, we don't have the (financial) resources to do so. See Bulbapedia:Site support to find out how you can help. - 振霖T 01:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Something like the Bulbagarden Benefactor. I did discuss this with other users. But I don't have the financial aid nor the consent to contribute to the Benefactor. How much would do? I might be able.PokeManiac102 01:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Well how much would the cost of updating this server be?PokeManiac102 00:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

TM Redirects

well, hello there. ive never talked to you (i dont think) so, ill say, Hello! then i will cut to the chase, thusly. after a friend of mine asked me why "TM" -space- "##" came up with a failure to find today, i went about creating TM ridirects tonight. well, i got to "TM 39" only to find that the page was previously deleted and deemed "excessive" you. well, i stopped in my tracks, and decided to tell you. either, theres quite a few redirects to delete (01-38) or, i could continue. MAGNEDETH 05:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That deletion was nearly three years ago. I'm pretty certain that what you plan would not fall under any deletion criteria, so I'd recommend continuing. --Shiningpikablu252 18:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
well, i told my friend that TMs are not supposed to have a space, but i figure, if one person thought so, then theres probibly more out there. MAGNEDETH 19:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Name change

I'd like a name change, please. If it'd be possible to change to just 'Tina', that'd be good. Otherwise, if there's already someone with that, then I'll just stick with this. Tina 21:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

There is no other user by the name of TinaPokeManiac102 22:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
From what I know of MediaWiki, there's no way to change a user's name without a specialized extension (not even sure if there's an extension for it). You would need to make a new account and then redirect your old userpage to your new one, but I'm not sure what Zhen's stance is on that. The other downside is you'd be starting fresh with contributions. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 22:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah, ok then.. because I remember someone saying that if you want a name change, go to Zhen, so yeah. Tina 22:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
But if Zhen Lin can't, and you wish to make a new account, I suggest that you create it at the start of MarchPokeManiac102 22:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
If there's any way to change a username, it'll either be down to a B.Crat or server-side, so yeh, Zhen's the only one who will know. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 22:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Top contibs

I made 134 edits this month, and i didnt get a mention, sorry if you read thid on the Top Contributors talk page but...KPF 18:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure Kpokefan that you didn't just count all your edits instead of your main-space edits??? --Theryguy512 21:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


We have a problem with the Main Page. Archaic has been notified, as has TTEchidna, but if you can do something about it, it would be appreciated. Check under the "Current Events" section. It should be fairly obvious. -ニョロトノ666 00:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. I'll tell the other notified admins that the problem has been solved. -ニョロトノ666 01:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


Can you update the Wanted Pages, sometime? I think they are quite outdated (Last update was last year) and I have 3 good reasons why they should be updated:

1. Many of the pages have been created, I think it is a waste to have this many showing up on the wanted pages.
2. There are some pages on there where links don't even exist anymore. Take #952 "Flaffy (TCG)" for example. It says there a 2 links to it, but because Flaaffy is misspelled, that number is now 0. Despite this, it still registers as 2. There are others, like, to name one, #413 Bulbapedia:Project Purge ‎(3 links)(but now 0.)
3 Most of these pages have more links to them than they did in December, and I think the wanted pages should reflect that.

I was told to ask you, but if you can't do it soon, that is okay; I just wanted to bring this to your attention. MoldyOrange 00:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!! MoldyOrange 02:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Interwiki Redirects

Are they possible? -ニョロトノ666 02:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Signature Help

Um...I accidentally put my signature on User:Theninen/Signature‎ instead of User:Theininen/Signature‎, and according to a comment on Archaic's talk page, you'd probably be the person to ask for help with fixing the name error. (I probably could transfer it, but I'd rather not leave it there taking up space, & if someone gets that username...?)Theininen 02:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Just wait until the namespace ban ends. -ニョロトノ666 02:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
You'll probably want to avoid using a templated signature like that for now as well; there's an ongoing discussion on the subject on the Bulbagarden forums, and if the policy goes through anytime soon, we'll probably need to delete the signature page as well (so best not to get too attached to something that might not be allowed for long). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I still don't see why it has to be deleted, cause it doesn't affect the efficiency of the website. AT ALL, IT DOES NOT SLOW DOWN THE WEBSITE EDITING THE SIGNATURE PAGEPokeManiac102 04:35, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Although I can't say the same for many other users, I rarely change my signature, and don't plan on doing so any time in the near future, so I see no reason for me to stop using my signature template. -ニョロトノ666 02:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Signature Policy

So I'm officially in charge of informing people if their signature breaks the new policy, correct?

First things first, I want to make sure I fully understand the entire policy. Don't want to go warning people for not doing anything wrong, etc... =D

  1. All signatures will be text-only and not exceed 80 characters on-screen when rendered.
    By text-only, this means no images, correct? Coding for changing font color will still be allowed I assume, so long as the end result is merely text. And what about the rare few signatures using coding to give a signature a background, will this fall under the "text-only" rule and be disallowed?
  2. No line breaks.
    Obvious one here, no use of the <br> code, etc...
  3. The font size of the signature will be no larger than the font size of normal text.
    Another obvious one, no <font size=> or <big> codes.
  4. No signature templates.
    Will templates still be allowed so long as users SUBST: them in? (no benefit to doing it that way aside from making it easier to edit your signature, but it's not a problem either.) So long as the template isn't already in use on a few hundred pages without SUBST:, it should be safe to leave it.
  5. A link to the user page, at minimum, and a link to the user talk page is recommended.
    Should be easy to enforce as well; common sense most of the time, really.

Alright, just let me know if I understood all that correctly; I'll probably start patrolling a bit later, as well (site's a little slow on my end currently, so it's a bit tough). Oh, and just to make sure; my current signature works in this policy, correct? (would be a little silly if the guy enforcing the policy was breaking it himself.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> 02:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

That's perfect for me. TTEchidna suggested for the subst: so I'm gonna be fixing my templatesPokeManiac10202:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Although I can't say the same for many other users, I rarely change my signature, and don't plan on doing so any time in the near future, so I see no reason for me to stop using my signature template. Also, what the hell is wrong with my dancing sprites? -ニョロトノ666 02:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
You read correctly. - 振霖T 02:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait, I don't exactly understand the first onePokeManiac10202:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

And, I'm pretty sure mine's is over the limit but might ask, is mine over the limit?

<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span>

(EC) one thing I'm still not clear on is the first one too, how about Pokemaniac's current signature? He'd need to make a new one without images, but can he keep the colored backgrounds there?
@Politoed: the problem isn't that you rarely change it, it's that anyone else CAN change it. Some immature or malicous user gets ticked off at something you say? In two clicks, he can change your signature to say "I'm a big fat stupidhead". Which then gets spread to every page you ever posted on; not only is that frustrating for you to fix, but having to update all the pages like that would case the server some strain as well. Not much strain, of course, but we're already a little slow here, so no reason to push it. (and if someone wanted to, they could purposely edit it to cause lots of server strain.)
@Pokemaniac: Don't forget the "text only" clause, the sprites would need to be removed; as well as the <big> tags in there. Aside from that, the coding isn't gigantic without the images... and it's not over the 80-character limit when you view it normally. I'd personally suggest removing the <span style=background> coding, just make it pure text links. You can do all sorts of nifty things with it from there, maybe make the different links different colors if you liked (kinda like a little rainbow effect). That would shorten the coding by a ton as well. Something like this, perhaps...
  • PokéManiac102
  • [[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#11FF6C;"><sup>'''''Poké'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#00FFFF;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sub>'''''102'''''</sub></span>]]
How's that look? Coding's down to half the original size, you still have all the colors, and it looks pretty cool too (in my opinion). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> 03:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I love my signature, and, the <big> combined with the <sup> or <sub> turns the letters into normal size. Also, I don't understand the no image part as many many signatures use images. Also, I rather have the backgrounds and colors there. PokeManiac102 03:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
The problem is that the images get really distracting... which is why the policy's removing them altogether. I know a lot of users use images, but rather then just say "too late to change it", I suppose I'll just have to search around and let users know one-by-one.
The problem with the big tags is that it makes them normal sized. Normal sized= good, but normal sized and ofset= bad. Notice how any line of text with your signature on it is taller then the rest?
For example...
  • ||||
  • ||||
  • ||||
  • ||||
  • ||||
Notice that the second line uses Sup and Sub, but it's still in line. But the fourth line uses Sup and Big, so it pushes the others away a bit. (look at the bullets to see the line distance a little easier.) That's why I say you're better off using it without the Big tags. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> 03:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I left word on you're talk pagePokeManiac102 03:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Job for good ol' BulbaBot

Replace every thing that goes {{:User...}} with {{subst:User...}}. Sees? Optimatum♏Talk|15:59 29 Mar 2008

Presumably, any template that starts with {{:User: is a signature, as normal templates have no use for the extra colon. Might be good to make sure all the user signature templates are small first, so we can cut down on the number of older image signatures while we're at it. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 02:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Unless it is something like my userpage. WHich is technically...has a 'menu' on it. Anyway, another favor for BulbaBot is deleting everything in this page. Tedious...Optimatum♏Talk|02:26 30 Mar 2008
You are just to lazy to do all your own pages! MoldyOrange 02:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I've schoolwork to attend to. And two annoying sisters who could get me banned if I play too long. Optimatum♏Talk|02:29 30 Mar 2008
Oh, schoolwork, I have Science Fair to do. If you want, since I am done with mine, I could do some of yours(but after I am done with Tina's, I'm on her's right now!) MoldyOrange 02:32, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Yet another method is jumping from talkpage to talkpage and change every {{:User to {{subst:User. Optimatum♏Talk|02:35 30 Mar 2008

Userspace Gone Haywire!

For some odd reason, many userpages with infoboxes aren't displaying right, displaying what should be outside the userbox inside it. Confirmed reports have this happening to Theryguy512, MAGNEDETH, Tina, and myself. From what I've seen, I think it might be an error in the coding for the userboxes. Is it possible to get this fixed? Thanks. --Shiningpikablu252 21:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, one (or more) of the userboxes we use have a in them. I'll try tracking those userboxes down...Optimatum♏Talk|02:20 30 Mar 2008

Nevermind, I've already found what was wrong. Has there been a system update recently? I suspect so with the new features I've been seeing. Anyway, that system update could be breaking userboxes that have tags in them that doesn't close tags properly, meaning the problem was in the tags, not the userboxes themselves. --Shiningpikablu252 04:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

That is correct. There was a major redesign of the parser in MediaWiki 1.12, which we upgraded to yesterday. - 振霖T 05:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Which explains the disconnection between around 3:00 PM (GMT+8) to 9:00PM (GMT+8), right? Okay, so maybe I was guessing the time. Optimatum♏Talk|05:57 30 Mar 2008

Policy Page

Do I have your permission to make a policy page for the Signature Policy? I'd like to have something "official" to refer users to. Something like Bulbapedia:Sign Your Comments or Bulbapedia:Signature Policy, I'm thinking. Can I make a page? What title should it be under if I make one? Or should I just leave it to you if you want a policy page? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

April Fool's joke, or what?

Is the user Namespace that was eliminated on April first coming back?--Pokencyclopedia 20:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Well it should, when you click Zhen Lin's link on the Message from the Editor on the main page.PokeManiac102 20:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Request to delete my userpage


Could you please delete my userpage User:Zouavman Le Zouave. Thanks in advance! Zouavman Le Zouave 16:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

you can ask any administrator.PokeManiac102 16:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Done. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 21:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

THe User page

I am still unable to edit my user page.

I only ask one thing.... GIVE US OUR USER PAGES BACK PLZ. --Reptileus 23:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Making demands isn't going to make the ability for regular users to edit the User namespace to be restored any faster. --Shiningpikablu252 23:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, please wait, only a little morePokeManiac102 23:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

First it was not a demand it was a request. Second- you look at my user page and THEN tell me to wait. Most of my hard work here, and exspression of self IS IN THAT PAGE. I am only Asking that you stop this MADNESS.--Reptileus 00:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

P.S. If you say "Madness..... THIS IS SPARTA.... i am going to be quite mad."
Bulbapedia is not the place you put your fanfiction. You can you know, copy paste the code by going 'view source'. Tina 00:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
why not relax and edit some Main Space articles in the meantime? theres plenty of work to be done. -- MAGNEDETH 00:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Come on. For real, ONLY A LITTLE MOREPokeManiac102 00:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Sigh. You guys know that by demanding the userspace back we may just change our mind about giving it back so soon... We might change it to mid-July instead of the current date we're set... TTEchidna 00:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Why can't people understand that this isn't myspace or facebook? It is ridiculous how some people act sometimes, have a little bit patience. Boywonder01 03:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, Bulbapedia is a community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia. So without the community how can it be driven forward? Bulbapedia is NOT a PokéBlog. I think Admins should caution users that do not edit the mainspace. TESHIGIGAS 11:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

wow poeple take everything I say and put it out of context---- that's nothing new to me. But for the last time (I was not ordering, yelling, Threatining, or a demand, it was a ple, a ple for somthing that had been taken away from me back. If you can't see that then it is your problem. --Reptileus 00:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

WAIT!Pokemaniac102 01:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

"Most of my hard work here, and exspression of self IS IN THAT PAGE." See, that's the problem. On most Wikis I've worked on (trust me, it's a big number), userpages are barely more than a few lines long. Bulbapedia's the only place where I've seen people join just to make a userpage instead of helping the main space. Not only does it kind of defeat the purpose of this site, it puts a huge strain on the server. As it is, I had to refresh this page several times before I could actually post on it because the connection kept timing out; when the userpages are free for editing again, I'd be able to read a short novel in the time it would take a page to load. That's the reason they blocked the edits in the first place, and it's the reason they're going to impose limits when they unblock them. As everyone else is saying, just wait. And don't interpret everything we're saying as attacks against you. For the most part, we're just trying to help. --MartonimosTalk 01:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
damn, if that aint the truth, idk what is. -- MAGNEDETH 02:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Archives Issue

For some reason, I believe there's something wrong with how Bulbapedia handles recently-uploaded images on the Archives. For some odd reason, Bulbapedia won't read some uploaded images as having actually been uploaded--for example, Bulbapedia believes Image:Satoruiwata.jpg doesn't exist, while it clearly exists on the Archives.

A bigger example would be images in two edits on List of English opening themes, specifically the first table and the two most recent edits of the article. The first table has links for 11 images. There are two different images for each opening available on the Archives, one with a .jpg extension and the other with a .PNG extension. 10 images have been uploaded at each extension (image 11 doesn't exist with either extension as of right now). However, Bulbapedia thinks images 3-10 on .jpg (example: .jpg 5 on Bulbapedia vs. same on Archives) and 8-10 on .PNG (example: .PNG 9 on Bulbapedia vs. same on Archives) do not exist. This could cause a problem for image uploaders, which could mean their work might never be seen on Bulbapedia despite being uploaded.

Is it possible to check into this issue and possibly see a fix? Thanks. --Shiningpikablu252 18:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

TTEchidna had screenshots of all the openings but they were low quality, so he got me to get them all in higher quality. Porygon-Z 18:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
And you did a good thing by doing that. However, it appears that the image quality has nothing to do with the problem I'm talking about. Keep in mind, three of your images (8/bp 8/a) (9/bp 9/a) (10/bp 10/a) fell to this bug. --Shiningpikablu252 18:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
And sadly that's better then before. 3-10 of TTE's fell to the bug. Porygon-Z 18:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
What's odd is that the JLC opening screenie that I uploaded didn't even appear as an image even. TTEchidna 03:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


New Wikinezka address - [9] Daru 19:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Italian Pokémon Wiki

Hi! I'm a staff memeber from the Italian Pokémon Community "Pokémon Central", ([10]) I just wanted to let you know that we started an italian Wiki about Pokémon, after some plannig over the past few weeks. We started the wiki about 2 weeks ago ([11]), we're in Beta and we just started adding contents supported by the community. :)

This wiki will be mainly community-driven just like Bulbapedia :), and as you can see from the forum, it is pretty well populated and active :) I sent an email to an admin but i never got answer :\ Telling that we were going to make some templates based on your ones.. Our license is also CreativeCommons, noncommercial (we put some adsense in the site, just to keep up with the hosting costs), ShareAlike, and we alway give credit to your original work. :) Maybe when we will be big enough, you could include us in the Enciclopaedia Pokémonis ... we are already putting interwiki links to EP wikis.. what do you think? Thank you, please reply ;)

--Ipergorilla 21:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC), PCForum moderator and Pokémon Central Wiki Bureaucrat-Admin

Although it could pose a problem to the server, I think it would be nice to expand Encyclopaedae Pokémonis to include an Italian wiki, but I'm definitely not the final say on the matter. So, what do you think, Zhen? --ニョロトノ666 21:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Why would it pose a problem to the server? All it'd do is have links to their site... most made by BulbaBot. Which poses a problem for me because I WANNA BEAT IIIIT... It'd definitely make it weird to have seven Poké Ball EP logos, though. TTEchidna 23:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
You already beat it, so no sweat. And YOU are also not the final say, well you may be the second-to-final say, but not the final. Zhen Lin is the man in charge•Pokemaniac102 23:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Pie technically outranks him, and Archaic controls the server. --ニョロトノ666 18:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, Pie has seniority. Like I said, Speaker of the House = me. Archaic is... well, Arceus.
I do of course think we should give the Italian wiki some time, wait for it to get info on more of the Pokémon (maybe all 493) and give it some time to make a name for itself before letting it join the EP crew. Plus, you know, we gotta ask the rest of the EP members about it, don't we? TTEchidna 07:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

New Site?

Hey, there is a new site for pokemon, and battling and such. And I am one of the people in charge of recruiting, mostly Bulbapedia users. I have posted a few ads on other user pages, and i was wondering if i could post one on yours? a copy is on my Talk Page if you want to see it. Patriotfan09 23:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Article 9000

Just to let you know, article 9000, Tauros (EX Crystal Guardians 12), was created at 20:19 yesterday, by yours truly. Thought you might wanna put something on the "Milestones" section of the About page. I'd feel really special... --ニョロトノ666 22:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


How do you download them? videos, photos of each frame put together,...? Just curious, TTE said you were the one to ask. Theininen 03:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I think they rip the sprites straight from the game card itself. No idea how, though. Posted by the Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links11:01 23 May 2008
Which specific ones are you asking about? - 振霖T 12:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


The name of this wiki should be Poképedia, not Bulbapedia! Change the name please. Thanks TeePee-20.7 18:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

User Pages

Umm, I have a question. The test on how lack of edits in the User: Namespace affected server speed, is it ongoing, or is that test over? If so, what were the results? Do you know if we will regain our User Pages sometime in the near future?--Nostalgia 16:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, please reply in the People's Comments section of my talk page. You'll see why when you click on it.

Changing the target of abuse from the User namespace to the User talk namespace isn't really helping you get back User. As far as our results go, the biggest improvement was when we hid the User pages entirely for a day. - 振霖T 00:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

User Uprising

There's a group of users trying to get how Bulbapedia works as a whole changed. The gathering place is User talk:Sailor Earth/Project DPODB. I would have deleted that page straight away, except I feared a rebellion. How can we get their mission stopped and keep how Bulbapedia works the same? --Shiningpikablu252 18:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

This is exactly what we wanted to stop! MathijsP 18:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to try to start up a discussion on the forums. Maybe we'll be able to work out what exactly their issue is. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 18:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Please! Do something! BlueJirachi 18:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Fabu-Vinny's right. Such a matter should be settled on the forums. --Shiningpikablu252 18:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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