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Ampharos=cute-Billy4b2004 04:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Aw, no liek Gastrodon? D; Tina δ 04:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

My dad would agree with you on the Aipom one, he hates the sound it makes and he just hates monkeys...because f those two things, he thinks its weak...KPF 04:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

as a guy, i dont really go the "adorable" route with my teams. so needless-to-say, Ampharos cant compare to SHEEP. and maybe my dislike ot Gastroden just stems from my love of Electric type. as for Aipom, again, while ive always hated it, i dont like monkeys either. Chimchar and Manky escaped this time..... MAGNEDETH 04:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

In the Chinese, Ampharos is known as Electric Dragon, while Flaaffy and Mareep are known as Electric Sheeps but Ampharos is still cute anyway.-Billy4b2004 05:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

cute does not make it good. that and i guess cute is in the eye of the beholder.... MAGNEDETH 01:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

How can you not Love Aipom? He is sooo cute and amazing!! user:David aipom

well, i hate monkeys in general, but in the few anime episodes i saw with Aipom, i found it very annoying. -- MAGNEDETH 22:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Super annoying, I haven't watched the newer episodes of the anime as it stopped airing in Sweden, but I got to see Aipom, GAAAAAHHH. DeadUniverse Hello! 20:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


Empoleon is a legend. End of. Glinn 05:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

legend? legend of what? false advertizing? MAGNEDETH 05:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It and Dialga were, for my first try, the only ones capapble of beating the Elite Four. Were both level 50-somethings. Legends. Glinn 07:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Unbelievable!-Billy4b2004 11:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ive beaten all the Elite 4s with my Lv. 70 Mewtwo, and just him. MAGNEDETH 18:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Only level 70? --DarthCookieMonster 18:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Is this fire red or red version? --DarthCookieMonster 18:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Blue, Red, Silver, Gold, Saphire, Diamond. MAGNEDETH 20:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh yeah, so? Mewtwo is far more powerful than Empoleon. Glinn 01:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

well yea, but you used 2 pokemon, and one was a legendary. if you can beat the elite 4 with a Lv. 50 Empoleon ALONE, then ive got nothing to say. id also like to say that its not really Empoleon i hate, just the fact its a penguin that ISNT Ice-type. MAGNEDETH 02:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I really only used Dialga vs Cynthia, and HER BLOODY GARCHOMP! Empoleon had to beat almost all of the Elite 4's pokemon, even beating Cynthia's Milotic. Plus, would you take away Empoleon Steelness? There are enough Water/Ice types already. Glinn 02:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I beat the entire Elite four with an empoleon level 64 --DarthCookieMonster 02:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I got a lot of critical hits--DarthCookieMonster 02:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

yes, i would def take away Empoleons Steel type, its weak to ground types, one of its main adversaries! and while there are indeed muliple Water/Ice types, how many of them are any good? Walrein, and maybe Laprass, but if Empoleoon was Water/Ice, he would mop the floor with them. MAGNEDETH 03:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Epoleon is a steel type, which can beat Ice. And yes I know that Steel doesn't beat Water. Water/Steel>Water/Ice.

Besides, Empoleon can learn Ice Beam, which is good enough for me. Glinn 03:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

That weakness to ground and fire is bad enough for me. But I love Empoleon anyway--DarthCookieMonster 03:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

the weakness to ground-type is what turned me off about him. i didnt like choosing chimchar, but, i needed somthing that wasnt Steel. i got Magnezone for that. if i didnt have a Magnezone, then maybe id like Empoleon enough to get one, but, whos to say? MAGNEDETH 04:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I have many steel types, I don't mind the weakness to ground. And Empoleon doesn't have a weakness to fire. Glinn 09:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't je take normal damage from it? That seems like a weakness to me. I use mine anyway though. --DarthCookieMonster 14:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

i used my Infernape through the game, then i got rid of him for a Blaziken because i dont need all the speed, but i do need all the POWER!! MAGNEDETH 23:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

BAH! INFERNAPE TERRIBLE! --DarthCookieMonster 23:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

yea, i dont like him, but he was the best type combo in my opinion. that and Torterra is too slow for me. i really like him, but, the speed and more importantly, i dont like Grass-types, too many weaknesses. MAGNEDETH 01:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Does Torterra not gain speed when he gets to higher levels (like gaining 3 per level) --DarthCookieMonster 01:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

i think it gains about one per level. its base speed is somthing around 40, which is terrible for a stage 3. granted, it is a turtle. MAGNEDETH 02:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Empoleon - Speed 60
Torterra - 56
Infernape - lol 108

Slow, slow and then fast. Not too fond of the D/P starters, myself... Tina δ 02:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I like Typhlosion and Empoleon most anyway --DarthCookieMonster 02:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

im my opinion, the D/P starters are the worst of them all. the R/S/E starters i think are the best. i dont like Grass types, but Sceptile is awesome. MAGNEDETH 02:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

High five, RSE starters rock. Always liked them and the Johto ones best.. Tina δ 02:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
high five indeed! as for Johto...idk, Feraligator is cool, but his Sp. Atk is way too low, and then theres Meganium whom i hate. Typhlosion though, he is very awesome. now i will disapoint even more to say games wise, i liked RSE the least... MAGNEDETH 02:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
....*revives section* In my opinion, the only reason they didn't make Empoleon an Ice-type because it would be too cliché. Yus. - spontaneousCombusken 04:05, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Empoleon is the god of all pokemon!Better than Arceus.

(And if Empoleon was Part Ice Type it would be weaker)

Emp395 22:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Emp395


I hate you. Every Pokémon is special and unique in their very own way (even though it may be weak, ugly etc. regrettably).PokeManiac102 02:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

are you sir, telling me, that you dont hate ONE SINGLE POKEMON??? you have to hate at least one!! i just happen to be a jerk and hate a lot. MAGNEDETH 02:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't hate A SINGLE ONE!!!! I like them all. EVERY SINGLE ONE! But my favorites are the Pseudo-legendaries excluding Metagross and including Flygon.PokeManiac102 02:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
you sir have a problem. Ned Flanders syndrome.. MAGNEDETH 02:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


I WILL KILL YOU!!!! Sorry! No. If I hated one, I would hate the very intelligent mind of Satoshi Tajiri. And I actually like dragon-typesPokeManiac102 02:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I like all of them including metagross. read abovePokeManiac102 02:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Metagross is awesome. Psuedo-legends are starting to grow on me more due to my 'UU IS AWESOME KTHXBAI' wearing off and starting to move on to 'oooo strong Pokémon > you' stage. xD Just not an Aggron fan. It... sounds like a train.
Also, imo, people are allowed to dislike certain Pokémon. It's not really 'insulting' Satoshi Tajiri or anything.. Tina δ 02:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I know. That is why I said sorry in the previous comment. NOOO I forgot what imo means. I'm starting to get it confused with emo.PokeManiac102 02:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion - imo Tina δ 02:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Whew... you do know what emo means right?PokeManiac102 02:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

well, thats why on the top of the page there is a warning. but to you tina, youve chosen well. you like Kirilia -> Gardevoir, which means even in the world of super killer pokemon, Gardevoir can still kick some tail. as for Aggron, i like his disposition, but hes way too slow, and hes way to weak. (180 Def, 65 sp def?) one Aura Sphere, or heck, Vacuum Wave, and hes done. MAGNEDETH 02:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Oy might as well. My favorite is Garchomp. Anyway
E is for emotional, ruins everybody's day
M is for miserable people
O is for on the dark side, where we have some fresh cookies COOKIES!

PokeManiac102 02:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I know what emo means, I'm not an idiot you know. Neither am I an emo faggot. :| (Actually, I like Gardevoir too-- scratch that, I love the whole Ralts family.) Tina δ 02:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
well, yea, i sort of figured that one out on my own... MAGNEDETH 02:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
It's kinda too obvious.PokeManiac102 02:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Lol yeah. *hugs her various trained Gardevoirs/Gallade that she trainer on different games* x3 Tina δ 02:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
just so everyone knows, i like Magnemite. MAGNEDETH 02:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

BAM! THROWS UP. I forgot about Gallade. Well Ivan could forget about you since you already have a fiancé. I lied cause I forgot about Deoxys. That's my favorite.PokeManiac102 02:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

No comment. (If I had to choose a fictional char, I'd choose Katrina.. she's just so.. I dunno. Lol.) Tina δ 02:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
would you stop adding two things like that? MAGNEDETH 02:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry. I knew you would say that.PokeManiac102 02:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Fsking edit conflicts!!! Tina δ 02:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
blame the Maniac.. MAGNEDETH 02:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
..........................................PokeManiac102 02:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
i only speak the opinions.. MAGNEDETH 02:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Well... Another two people that hate me...PokeManiac102 02:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
who are the other two? MAGNEDETH 02:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
YOU AND WHAT'S-HER-FACE!PokeManiac102 03:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't hate anyone. Just dislike. Tina δ 03:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
you said "another" two, as in, us and two more. but i dont hate you, i just hate that you add mulitple things to a page. yur the master of edit conflicts. but Tina, well, she told me she really really hates you, dispite hre friendly disposition above... MAGNEDETH 03:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
That's what they all say. But I know what people are thinking. I have NO friends.PokeManiac102 03:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
you know what? yur right. i absolutly completly dispise you. MAGNEDETH 03:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
...Your right. Moving on to a new website. Deleting userpage.PokeManiac102 03:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Drama drama drama? D8 Tina δ 03:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

oh the humanity!! no! dont go! i was lying! youre my best friend ever!! IM SO SORRY!!!.... .........................maybe im going about this the wrong way? MAGNEDETH 03:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

sigh...PokeManiac102 03:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
now that you got that out of your system, do you feel better? MAGNEDETH 03:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Whenever I get pissed, I punch a pillow or go play some Kirby Air Ride.. Tina δ 03:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Yea I feel better... I guess. I love Kirby Air Ride. But now I'm going offline. School tomorrow and it's 9:20 here (and I don't care what time it is in N/S Carolina).PokeManiac102 03:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
yea i dont actually live in NC, i lied. and when you mean Kirby air ride, do you mean the GC version of GBA mini-game? MAGNEDETH 03:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Should be on Wikipedia.. Tina δ 03:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
well yea, but the GC version is terrible. the mini-game in GBA Kirby is way more fun. MAGNEDETH 03:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
You got quite off subject (Actually, my dear Pokemaniac, I like SOMEONE ELSE, okey dokey?) OptimatumTalk|07:34 10 Mar 2008
holy crap, this is almost 2 months old! MAGNEDETH 18:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The Best Pseudo-Legendary is Salamence Pokemon94 19:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't reply to topics over a month old. This topic was two months old when it got revived, then it died again...and now, eight months later, you revive it again. :I On top of that, you didn't even adress the old topic. LordArceus 19:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


I hate Gastroden too. (Only the Pink one) TESHIGIGAS 18:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

do you hate pink that much? MAGNEDETH 18:09, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
-goes the adorable route- Yes, I guess he does...OptimatumTalk|07:27 14 Mar 2008


I don't get how Magikarp isn't on there (Gyrados is awesome, but the only efficient way to get him is to catch him, evolving either takes rare candies or Exp. share), and Dusknoir is AWESOME, but i DEFINETLY agree with bidoof. ok, i'm trying to get a shiny, so i use my Pokéradar. i see a patch of grass shake, i go to it... AARGH! it's a bidoof! so i check my pokédex for where he's not, go there...AAAAAAARGH! BIBAREL!!! MOST POINTLESS POKÉMON IN THE GAME!!!!!... thanks for letting me rant, i'm done. -Theininen 21:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

i dont hate Magikarp because it evolves into the very powerful Gyarados. though, i do hate those random fishermen with 6 of for Dusknoir, yuck, but, im not saying hes bad or looks stupid, i just hate tanks. and Bidoof is pretty self explanitory, though, Bibarel is an HM slave, and thats a good thing. MAGNEDETH 01:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


You hate a bunch of the Pokémon I like. Marill, Sableye, Pachirisu, Lopunny, Milotic, Empoleon. I'm not flaming you or anything. I just thought it was kind of funny.

Oh and the thing that you said about Empoleon: "It's a penguin, but it isn't part Ice-type?? Who thought that up??". The myth is all penguins live in cold areas. The truth is that only like 10% of all penguin species live in cold areas. Just thought I'd bring that up.

Milotic's not so bad if you use it on your team. But yeah beating it is a bitch. What I do is usually send a Grass-type out and use Grass Knot. Its weight ups the attack. Grass moves seem to work better on it than Electric moves --ケンジガール 23:13, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

and to think, i hate even more than this! but you hit the nail there, its all about opinions and im not trying to make anyone mad.
as for penguins and the ice thing, that may be correct, but really, when the general consensus of people think of Antarctica when they think of penguins, it sort of makes sence, and you CANT deny that. (well you can, but, you know its true!!)
as for Milotic, it only gave me trouble in Gen 3 because its high sp def mans my Magneton cant give it a severe beating (in one hit anyway, because i WILL hurt it quite bad, what with Magneton being awesome) and being its pure water, its only weak to elec and grass, both sp. types. now in gen 4 i can take it out fast with a physical grass or elec attack (like Thunderpunch) -- MAGNEDETH 02:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

im nott happy

u big fatt meanie! All Pokémon pwn like not heaven in their own way except Purugly (Which i don't care if u put it on ur hate page) man i hate being the new kid... PS i agree with Bidoof and Chinchou, but watch ur mouth when u diss Empoleon!)Kkllnn 21:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)←Who's this guy? he seems familiar...--Kkllnn blastoise 00:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Where are we grade two?!? Its just an Empoleon who cares?! I compleatly agree with the no ice type for a penguin like come on! MAGNEDEATH you rock!!!! Rucario64 22:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thanks! and if im not mistaken, the top of the page says i dont really care if someone gets mad, so, vent all you want Kln. -- MAGNEDETH 22:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Whoa, was that me? Sure glad I've matured since then...--Kkllnn blastoise 23:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
2nd. HA! do you still hate that i hate Empoleon (granted, ill elaborate when i get around to redoing the Gen IV section)? -- MAGNEDETH 00:00, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I do, but not like you care...--Kkllnn blastoise 00:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
not particularly no. he he. but as i said, wait until i hit Gen IV, it might ease up a slight bit. -- MAGNEDETH 00:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for that.--The Kkllnnator blastoise 23:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


I agree with you 100% on selecting Bidoof. I find these all the time when I'm looking for Poké Radar Pokémon. Very annoying. You should also add to the list Bibarel, Kricketot and Kricketune for the same reason. Kricketune especially for the most annoying cry in Pokémon history. ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Kricketune has the best cry ever!--Davidaipom 15:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hearing that cry makes me want to slam my DS through a window... ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
yea, i probably should have. however, it is to say that while Tune decided to pop-up on, oh, say, every day ending in "y", i never really saw a Tot. namely because i never played my DS at 6AM... -- MAGNEDETH 22:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I didn't realize they were time sensitive. I used to play all the time at work when I worked overnight shifts. That's why I always ran into Kricketot... ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 00:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
yup. ive got a Tune, but i dont think ive ever encountered a Tot in the wild. i mostly only get to play at night, thanks to the day shift. -- MAGNEDETH 03:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

--K4kirin 09:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)I think Arceus has the worst cry in Pokémon history. Not hating it, just it's cry

You Made My Day

Big time! I laughed so hard! Kilik 21:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

another satisfied reader. -- MAGNEDETH 21:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I actually like Spiritomb mostly because of it's evil nature (plus I like Dark-types), and I can picture a ritzy Pokémon Mansion filled with Lopunny... ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 00:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
i actually have a trained Spiritomb. i dont really "hate" him. ill explain it when i get down to redoing the Gen IV section. -- MAGNEDETH 23:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Cool, you like Dark Types too~Pokemaniac102 23:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, the descriptions were pretty funny. And I agree with the Quagsire thing. SharKing 20:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

excellent. -- MAGNEDETH 23:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Seriously! It has the famous Electric resistence. Annoying to Pikachu, that's for sure. Such a useful trait... on such a useless Pokémon. --SharKing ((Talk to the King!)) 14:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
P.S.: I just got done reading your re-do's. Thanks for making me laugh more!

All of them are great to hate, exept blissey is the only one I love to use. Grassman (talk) 20:12, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

wow this is EXCELLENT!

Dragonair131 says: yea. i agree with almost everything on here!


Is the most awesome Pokemon ever (and stopped by Battle Tower team cold) - unsigned comment from Link6491 (talkcontribs)

didnt say he wasnt useful. i just hate tanks, and hes a tank. -- MAGNEDETH 03:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
People are entitled to their own opinions, unfortunately~Ποκεμανιακα0β 03:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Are you suggesting that there should be a dictatorship here? :s Glinn Mgraw 12:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh. My. God.

Generally, I'm indifferent, and in a fair few cases I agree with you. But, hating on Ampharos and Empoleon? Evil! I cast you out! Cipher (Talk) 12:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

well, it is to say. the only reason i hate Ampharos is because it evolves from one of the funniest Pokemon ever, Flaaffy! and Ampheros, just, isnt that for Empoleon. i used one on my Steel team, and he did ok, but, i still think it should be a part Ice. its a penguin!! -- MAGNEDETH 15:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree!!

I agree! I despise Pachirisus. I think that they should be outlawed in the Sinnoh Region. The rangers should find some way to get those Pachii's out of everyone's houses. The only reason I have a Pachirisu in my party is for my HM's. Dialgarules 02:09, 31 October 2008

my distaste for Pachirisu knows no bounds. i caught it for Dex, and boxxed it. Golem was my HM slave. -- MAGNEDETH 00:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
You two are *censored* *censored* *censored*. Enough said. パチリスの恋人12 01:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
The one reason I have one of those ugly things in my party is because it knows Flash and Cut. Otherwise, they should be killed! --DialgaRULES 02:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Exploding Pachirisu joke here.--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
Okay, wanna know somethin' about Pachirisu? It's actually good. I'll explain why.
Pachirisu learns some of the best support moves there are. Its base offensive stats are only 45, but it has Super Fang for that. Super Fang has a set amount of damage, so it's a great choice on Pachirisu.
Then, we get to its defenses. 70 base Defense and 90 base Special Defense. Not bad. Especially with Light Screen. With Light Screen, Special attackers are totally screwed.
Like almost every other Pokémon, it has Toxic. If you use Super Fang three times and then use Toxic, Pachirisu becomes even better.
Lastly, there's Sweet Kiss. Pachirisu is a great supporting Pokémon if it has Sweet Kiss. Confusion + bad poisoning = Lots of damage!
Now, if you Pachirisu haters still hate Pachirisu even after reading this, that's your opinion and I respect that. But I personally tested out a Pachirisu with Super Fang, Light Screen, Toxic and Sweet Kiss, and it's a beast. Chocolate((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions)) 02:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
i appreciate you writing that out, but, fact of the matter, Gengar nulls your strat. also, if you want to compete with the big boys, Garchomp is faster, and will undoubtedly quake the crap out of the rat. and then theres my usual response of "i hate tanks" and while calling Pachi a tank is a stretch, its still a defense whore. you want to use it, go right ahead, as you said, opinions, but, there is a reason Pachirisu is found the the NU tier. -- MAGNEDETH 02:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, Sweet Kiss helps against Garchomp. Let's say you have a Pachirisu as your lead Pokémon, and your opponent leads with a Gyarados, and has a Garchomp. Now, most people will expect Pachirisu to have Discharge purely for the high chance of paralyzing the opponent, even though Pachirisu doesn't have that good offensive stats.
So, as your opponent switches to Garchomp, Pachirisu uses Sweet Kiss. Confusion is a great status condition to be able to inflict on your opponent. If Garchomp hurts itself in confusion and has invested in tons of Attack EVs, it'll hurt itself quite a lot, and then Pachirisu has Toxic to inflict even more damage on Garchomp. Chocolate((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions)) 15:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Swagger can replace Sweet Kiss because it amplifies the damage, but takes the risk that you can take the damage. --Anangryzapdos 17:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Just felt I should mention...

A few of your original sprites in the Gen III and IV sections aren't showing up. Just thought I should tell you! The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 23:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

yea, i know, those images dont exist. someone needs to upload them to the archives. something ive been thinking of doing myself, if i can find some time. -- MAGNEDETH 23:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay then. And I like your reasoning behind most of the Pokémon on the list, btw. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 00:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Sinnoh starters

You have angered the muay thai monkey...j/k, Infernape is alright for a while, but Empoleon is so lame and Torterra i could do without honestly. --Boywonder01 05:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

the Sinnoh starters are the worst of the series in my opinion. -- MAGNEDETH 04:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Which are the best starters then, hm? Pyles 17:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
lot of answers to that question. but if i were to single-out one particular location, itd be Hoenn. ironically, my least fav region. -- MAGNEDETH 02:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


Dude u took the words right out of my mouth with the freaking annoying pokémon. Ohh add this! Spirtomb is impossible to get unless u have 32 friends underground.Or 1 that has the time 4 u to go in and out of your base 32 times for redecorating.Smartkidhen 20:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC){u|smartkidhen}

Spiritomb is easy to get, just ask for it on the GTS after facing Cynthia, even if you lose to her, its still in your pokedex, so can still be asked for over GTS, then either use the GTS one you get, or breed it to get an egg of a Spiritomb. --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010
*cringe* I hate it when people use the word lol for no reason and capitalize it....DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
yup. -- MAGNEDETH 04:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


Yeah, it and Electrode are pathetic with the explosions. Low Attack. I was thinking of starting off a comic strip of my own by doing a Voltorb joke. SharKing Productions 01:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


I agreed with you on over half of your selections. XD The only ones I liked that you listed are:

  • Rattata (because it's so friggin' cute. =P I love rats)
  • Farfetch'd (it used to be my favorite, until I met Raichu)
  • Ditto (because it's an amorphous blob that makes me laugh)
  • Ampharos (I really have no idea why I like this one. O.o)
  • Quagsire (see above)
  • Wobbuffet (only Musashi's, really. >.> )
  • Sableye (. . . ._. I dunno. .)
  • Regice (it's voice is awesome)

Other than those, I agree with you. >.> Especially with Pikachu. I hate that thing! Mind if I steal this idea from you? I'll give you full credit. =P (PS: I, too, hate monkeys. .) シンジShinjiLover,Edits 15:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

You're Kidding, Right?

I beat Sceptor's Empoleon with my Infernape's Close Combat IN ONE HIT!---- |\/| | Z Z | |\| G Y E Z 20:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

i never said it was hard to kill, i said its a Penguin that isnt Ice, and thats dumb. -- MAGNEDETH 05:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


I love Infernape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have one that is level 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --HideInTheDark 18:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Blaziken beats him in just about everything other than speed. Plus, Battle Chicken beats Monkey anyday of the year. Diachronos 17:23, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
And I have a Furret that's level 100. Does that make it good?--freezingCOLD (page, talk) 19:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes.User:DCM 19:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


I can totally agree with the reason why you hate Onix, haha. --ταllı 13:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Totally illogical

Yeah let's hate a Pokémon because it's actually (god forbid) useful in competitive battle! Frugali 17:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is. He's allowed to hate what he wants, like I hate new users who are rude. He can hate it for no reason if he wants.User:DCM 18:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
hi Frugali. thanks for visiting my page, and thanks for totally missing the point as well!
if you will re-read the Infernape entry, it states nothing about its usefulness in competetive play, until you look at the "Outlook" which (holy crap!) states that "its useful" to battle with.
if you read the whole page, you would notice i have a natural hatred twards tanks, and it seems that Dusknoir is one, so, naturally, i hate it for that reason. once again, in the "Outlook" section, i note its good attack stat.
and next time you plan on heckling a user for hating something for a reason not related to the page in question, be advised im quite a big competitive battler myself. -- MAGNEDETH 02:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Unoriginal Pokémon

I believe that Beautifly is not the most unoriginal Pokémon ever. That title belongs to Clefable, the bigger version of Clefairy. Beautifly is the SECOND most unoriginal Pokémon.--I'm Pokelova(Talk) 08:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

great point, buuut, Clefable is based off of an original idea, so it sort of gets by like that, barely. it could be noted its the most unoriginal evolution difference though. -- MAGNEDETH 00:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
I suppose you're right. But I still hate Clefable.--I'm Pokelova(Talk) 06:30, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok with monkeys

I can understand you don't like monkeys, in general, but HEY! Aipom's awesome! So, hear this, a question, if you did like monkeys.... you would like Aipom, right? I mean... OBVIOuSLY!! It's awesome!! Though, I don't know if I like it's evolution. And for the rest of your list... whatever :P that's your opinion and I really really respect opinions, becuase I like mine being respected, just some of your hated weren't that right there, like Wurmple (when I first saw one I was like "THAT MOST THE MOST INTERESTING WORM POKéMON EVER CREATED xP), Beautifly (love it, I mean its not one of my fav or anything but I like checking my boxes and find out I have 3 beautifly xD) and Infernape (which I think it is original, not just because it has the same type-combination it isn't cool) And, finally... Milotic, it's a good Pokémon, kinda cool too, though having one IS a pain in the ***. So, xD what do you think about my question of Aipom?

ps: I DON'T MEAN TO HURT YOU, OF COURSE NOT but talking about magnemite... weeeeeeeeell isn't one of my favorite either, and when I'm in New Mauville it's one of those that you're like "let me goooo!!!! I don't want to fight you, and you paralyze my pokemon T^T... ¬¬" xD no offence, really YukitoOoO 19:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

i think youre missing the point on some of these. i dont hate Wurmple for example, but the fact that is poisons you really early in the game is just really annoying.
but even if i did like monkeys, i would still hate Aipom because its stupid, ugly, useless, and annoying. but thats just my opinion, i fully respect other peoples opinions. -- MAGNEDETH 19:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh well, whatever :D but ahmmm... I never said you hated Wurmple, but, as I already said, whatever. YukitoOoO 05:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

About Luvdisk

I TOTALY AND COMPLETLY AGREE WITH YOU. WORST POKÉMON EVER. I'm sailing along... Ooh! a Pokémon! WHAT?!? LUVDISK?!? Oh, come on. Dolphins_are_awesome (and Vulpix are too)! 00:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Fuck you

Fuck you for hating Pachirisu User:Gengarblood3

well, isnt that a convoluted response. surely if you truly felt that way youd be compelled to give a reasonable explanation as to why you feel so strongly about the stupid thing as to break the rules to inform me of my displeasing outlook compared to yours? hmm? anything? -- MAGNEDETH 18:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

same here about pikachuPikababy 01:58, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah that was smart. Yeah Deth, fuck you because you don't like what I like... Virtual-Z 02:02, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Shuckle is epic. Fuck you for hating it. - unsigned comment from Zoroark519 (talkcontribs)

Really? You want to get banned just to prove a point? Even if he hated Chandelure, I wouldn't bash him. Bit even going to sign your comment. ~ Blitzamirin ~ 22:51, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
its funny because not only do i say at the top of the page that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but Z right above that message describes about half the comments i get, including this one. (btw Chandelure is awesome) -- MAGNEDETH 04:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Your a Primate

I think hatting Moneys is funny. I agree with most of this page but not Milotic, Infernape and Lanturn. Miloric is just so pretty I can't bring myself to hate it. Lanturn is a good part of my team. Becouse I like cramming all the types I can, so its either Lanturn or no Electric types, Infernape, I am a son wokan fan. Random

Also how can Jynx not be on this list? Jynx sucks. and those annoying Kricketune walk 3 steps wiled kricketune, 3 more wiled kricketune, you get the idea. Was hereRandom Chaos

I know this is off topic, but seriously, learn to spell. How old are you?--ポケモン恋人(離す)(貢献) 04:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I have a head problem that keeps me from luring to spill. Sorry Random Chaos 15:34, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

--K4kirin 09:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)Hey Random, I totally agree with you about Infernape and Lanturn, but Milotic? Feebas is where the heck I can't find it and how the hell do you evolve it! But hey, its moves aren't bad so I'm not hating it ( it even killed my Zekrom once).

I have to agree

I have to agree with all these choices, because sometimes, trainers pick the gayest (skillwise and/or how they look *glares at ambipom*) pokemon ever, may I make a suggestion? Absol, Murkrow, and its evolution, that chest puffed raven. Yes, Absol IS my favorite pokemon, but man, when I`m versing it, with those critical hit moves, razor claw (or fang, I forgot), along with super luck, critical hits all over. So annoying, but so fun to use. - unsigned comment from Nixslayer (talkcontribs)

well, these are Pokemon I hate, and i dont really hate Absol or Murk/Honchkrow. Absol is power, and with Super Luck, it can really deal damage, but its not very fast, and its defenses arent great meaning a good strong super effective hit will kill it without a problem. pretty much the same for the birds. yea, Honchkrow is a little weird looking, but its emulating the boss, or head honcho of something. so its supposed to have its chest sticking out. thats a sign of dominance. its also got a similar stat set-up as Absol in that its not overly fast, and extremely weak. -- MAGNEDETH 20:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah, okay. Nixslayer 02:06, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

What if...

Game Freak didn't design/license a game with access to a "useful" Electric type (i.e., Magne-fill in the blank)? Would you use whatever zappper was available or would you give up your preferred type-based bias against all Water/Ground Pokemon except Swampert? Because I won a privately-organized, 32-man tournament of my friends with a themed team of Quagsire, Whiscash, and Gastrodon. My friends and I are all veterans of official tournaments who are not dismissible as teenagers/adults who are not professional/mature enough to enter tournaments or "babies". We all knew what we were doing, and we all had complete Pokedexes. Everyone drew a random 3-Pokemon team(I didn't write the cards), and and we all had the necessary 493 Pokemon on our Platinums, achieved via gameplay, trading, and events. I drew the card marked "All Water/Ground types available in Sinnoh before the National Pokedex). I fought my way through, thinking about your dismissive comments about such Pokemon. I battled on without becoming depressed about the odds of my total victory, and I won it all. Stats can be overcome by knowledge/awareness of all the opponent's strengths/weaknesses(which include stats), even if a Quagsire is up against a Lvl.100 Land-Forme Shaymin with SolarBeam, Seed Flare, Leaf Storm, and Sunny Day(which I did have to cope with in my 2nd match). Remember, I was up against professionals, and I am aware of the possibility of the fact that you only hate fighting such Pokemon(but then again, why else are more than Electric/Steel moves, and does everyone have to use STABs with moves?), but your bias is essentially balanced on 2 "facts": #1:Stats/STAB make a team win. And,#2:Humans have no conscious influence on the battle outcome, and so, if #1+#2 is not followed, all battles will be lost. Your arguments fall flat due to not considering the human influences. Oh, and by the way, contests/physical appearances are not included in my argument, owing to your dislike for non-battle scenarios and your arguments purely based on appearances I love. My presentation is based on the Magne-vs.-Quag 'n :\"clones" argument and a related incidence to that situation. My friends and I would enjoy your list of hated Pokemon much more if it were based only on physical appearances/anime reasons, for those are funny. This is not a criticism, merely a logical and practical arrangement of thoughts. I personally think you are hilarious, and should complain about more faults with the franchise. Just don't base it on numbers and statistics. P.S.- I love your nickname for your Blaziken. But instead of Fried, could it also be Kentucky Fightn' Chicken as a parody? Thank you and good day.--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 09:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

im not entirely sure what message youre trying to get across, but i bet that a Magneton could beat your entire team of Water/Ground types. but more to the point, its not the typing that i hate, its just plain how bad they are. stats do matter. -- MAGNEDETH 23:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Wellllll.......I was kinda parodying some rants I found on this site, but I am a fan of yours and the tourney was real. I really agree with most of what you say. All in all, I didn't mean a lot of it and I was trying to amuse you in a good way and I hope we can talk more often. Thanks.--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... 01:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

it wasnt so much amusing as it was incredibly confusing, but thanks for being a fan. -- MAGNEDETH 01:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


I just had to let you know that I was rolling reading your page. I think I about died when I got to the Regi-trio. I do like Empoleon though... Piplup to a Steel Pokemon? Pretty sexy family IMO. Haha... and Luvdisc... I feel as if Gen 3 was a low point in so many ways. Christopher (talk) 20:06, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


You don't like Hoppip? I love Hoppip as much as Shroomish and Budew, which is a lot. But I won't yell at you. Yelling will not solve anything. So, it's ok if you hate Hoppip. Everyone has their opinions on Pokemon. Like, um, I HATE MAGNEMITE TO MAGNEZONE!! (That's not true.) But would you yell at people who hate your favorite Pokemon? --Shroomish7 19:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

as the top of the page states, its my page and im going to express my opinions. im not yelling at anyone, or rather, no one in particular. i hate Hoppip. if you like Hoppip, fine, but telling me its ok to express my opinion and then telling me i cant yell about it (which in this case is an exaggerated way of saying you dont want me to express my opinion) is pretty much the definition of hypocrisy. but some people dont like Magnemite, and they are allowed to, and i wouldnt 'yell at them' about it (though, i would probably want a reason. i mean, if theyre telling me about it, then surely they have one). -- MAGNEDETH 06:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I forgot to tell you Deth, I named my Magnemite after you on HeartGold. :3 --Pokélova! 07:37, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


Ok, not to say much but I really must agree with 99% of that page. The only thing I don't understand is how you, or anyone, could hate it. Yes, it's unorigional. yes, it's a monkey yet it really does come down to being a powerhouse, especially in the Animé. Reading the outlook section, I assume you are willing to accept that and am fine with your opinions. However, scrolling down the page their must be about four Infernape/Monkey complaints. Just reflecting my views, sorry to bombard you with another Monkey topic. --PickyChimchar 08:17, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

i dont like monkeys. i think they are annoying. its as simple as that. im not saying Infernape isnt good, because it is, i just hate monkeys. its my page and if i hate monkeys than im allowed to hate monkeys. however, i actually like Primeape if its any consolation. -- MAGNEDETH 21:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok, just curious. Like I said I respect the majority of your reasonings and opinions. --PickyChimchar 07:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)


I was laughing at most of this to start with and understood your reasoning, but when I saw that u dislike Lanturn-I got a headache. It's type combination is perfect for the moves it gets STAB for and it is easy to train, on top of all that it is simperly adoarable and makes the cutest sound in the anime ♥♥, how could you possibly have anything agaist it ? Lanturn....05308 00:07, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

stats, or rather, a severe lack of. -- MAGNEDETH 04:07, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


You seem very picky about Pokémon, Ampharos might not look like a sheep anymore, but it's good if you train it right. But Garchomp... the awesomeness. DeadUniverse Hello! 20:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Smooth Moves

There were a couple personal disagreements with your list, but I liked it overall. But there was one big problem. Probopass is a masculine, hairy man-beast and gets all the poke-babes. He's a sexy poke-Mario. Beastieman 20:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC) Beastieman


I am welcome to state my argument right? Ok, so he may look stupid and other stuff but try using him for your advantage. Although I cant help but ask, why do you hate him? Aside from the female's lipstick. *shudders* Goldex555 04:14, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


Ok. WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU BE A NON LEGND GUY! THEY ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p.s.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maxpower6 23:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

legendaries are either normal Pokemon that are hard to obtain for basically no reason (most of the trio Pokemon), or theyre so powerful, its basically "fight > use deadly attack > win" and thats no fun. the more common guys need more strategy, and thats part of the fun. and p.s. what? also, questions usually end with a question mark. -- MAGNEDETH 04:17, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Gen. V

I can't find anything I hate in Gen. V, well there is Shinbora which doesn't even TRY to look like a Pokémon, anyway are you going to make a Gen. V list? --Landfish7 17:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

of course i will, but i have to play the game first. -- MAGNEDETH 23:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Yelling at you


always nice to meet a fan! -- MAGNEDETH 04:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


Sorry I can't stand this pokemon. If you don't have a pokemon strong against it your caught in the battle until your pokemon faints. It's a death trap! --Pokemaster97 19:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


That is the most unoriginal Pokémon? I see you haven't been introduced to.   Random Chaos 15:46, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


I know you haven't gotten on to Unova yet... but I'm just psychic... Stunfisk will end up here... EvilKirikizan 12:19, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

<_< >_> time will tell... -- MAGNEDETH 16:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


I agree with all of your choices (except for Aipom, of course,) and I hope you will make a Unova list soon! :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 15:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Unblock and I agree

Can you please unblock me, I also agree about the Pokémon in between Metagross and Latias those 3 scare me! Pikatwig 00:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


So you made this WHOLE LIST of annoying pokemons, but you forgot MAGIKARP? HE'S TOO EASY!!!!!!!!!! ----TepigROX! (The Tepig can TALK!) 00:11, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Magikarp has a purpose. it is a Pokemon that requires patience. sure, it sucks, but once you hit lvl 20, it evolves into the mighty GYARADOS. -- MAGNEDETH 22:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I have to ask..

what is a "tank" for us lazy people. And don't say a Pokémon. Truthseeker4449 19:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Specifically the second definition. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 19:38, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you Truthseeker4449 20:34, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

A word from a fan

...You have a well thought-out dislike list, and I'm impressed. Sure, Pokémon I like are on that list, but I have to admit: Every Poke has its defects.

Moreover, I would like to see a Gen V list, and since there were no evos introduced, I would guess the responses would be different, but I see some notable Pokes you might hate:

  • Cofagrigus: A tank and a ghost with status. Huh.
  • Ferrothorn: One of my favorites, but... It has a good attack stat, and it walls like hell. Add to that Leech Seed.
  • Whimsicott: Prankster. That godawful ability that will stall you. Then, it throws Memento and you die.
  • Archeops: Its good, but when its HP goes below half? Oh yeah.
  • Cryogonal: Sure, its fast, but that Defence Stat? Pfft.
  • Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus: Most unoriginal legends, really. The first 2 also have Prankster.
  • Seismitoad: The new Water/Ground. It sucks, barring Speed.
  • Swoobat: Stats are best forgotten for this "special sweeper".
  • Pan-whatevers and Simi-whatevers: Oh, Game Freak. Triplicate a Poke three times. I'm sure no one will notice.
  • Vanilla Ice Creams: That's what happens when you leave Americans to do the work.
  • Mandibuzz: A Flying Waller.
  • Emboar: Tries so hard. Self-Explanatory.
  • Gigalith: Tank, with the new and improved Sturdy!
  • Musharna: "Tank" with good special attack. It Trick Rooms, and...
  • Stunfisk: Look. At. It. Bad type too.

and many more.

However, I would like to ask 1 question: If only 1 of the Regis would have been introduced, which would you pick? Cheers. ~ Blitzamirin ~ 23:45, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

let me just fix that formatting for you. anyway, Gen V is def incoming at some point. as is an update to my favs. you do have some i dont like, but i wont give away details right yet.
as for your last question, the wording confuses me a little, but i think youre asking which one id say is better than the others, then im honestly not sure. Ice is a terrible wall, so thats out, but Steel and Rock work. Steel is the true defense king, but Regirock knows what its job is, it is a physical defender. period. with the introduction of Sandstorm helping out Rock-types, Regirock is best, but as of time of prob still go Rock. -- MAGNEDETH 04:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


Actually, Magnedeth, I DO hate all those Gen V Pokemon you put up. :) (Arceuscl405 17:16, 8 August 2011 (UTC))

thats impressive because i havent put any Gen V Pokemon up at all. soon though. -- MAGNEDETH 06:00, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I too am a fellow Pachirisu hater

I agree with with your hate for Pachirisu. Its like Pikachu but worse. And blue. And pointless. Even though Emolga continued the squirrel trend, for some reason I slightly like it. As for your hate for Ampharos, I have to disagree but I understand since Flaaffy is pretty awesome. Like in its Gen V animation it looks like its dancing kinda. I will be awaiting the Gen V favs and hates FrankTheTank000 02:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


on ampheros you wrote i instead of it.--Supermon

    You just misspelled ampharos and you didn't capitalize error, on, or I. Rgold 12 00:29, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Gender Pronouns

I don't at all want to argue about which Pokémon you dislike, but I find it extremely jarring that you seem to automatically refer to automatically refer to Pokémon as 'he' and 'him' on this page and your favourites page. I won't wax feminist at you, but there's little excuse when it comes to Metagross and the legendaries. :P Breloomy 00:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

It's just how I roll. Nothing personal or sexist. If I feel a Pokemon exhibits masculine or feminine traits, then I tend to refer to that Pokemon as that gender. -- MAGNEDETH 03:36, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


AMPHAROS IS MY FREAKING FAVORITE POKÉMON!!! Although you don't care. Teddi'Ampha 16:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

A question

I have a question about your preferences.

Suppose you have a choice between 2 Pokemon, one of which you must use on your team. They have the exact same stats, moveset, etc. The only difference is that one is pure Grass-type, and one is Grass-Poison. Which would you choose?

I ask this knowing that this bears a strong similarity to your dislike of Empoleon's part Steel-type. In this scenario, the Grass-Poison type is neutrally affected by Ground-type moves, rather than being resistant to them. (This is analogous to Empoleon's lack of a resistance to Fire-type moves, and its weakness to Ground-type moves, both of which are weak to Water). However, while the pure Grass-type resists Ground, it has added weaknesses to Poison- and Bug-type moves. (This is analogous to Empoleon's numerous other resistances added with the Steel typing.) With this in mind, which Pokemon would you choose? Tk3141 15:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I think youre completely missing the point of why i dont like Empoleon. the problem is that it is Steel, where-as given it is based on a penguin, it should be Ice-type. thats my complaint. it has nothing to do about weaknesses or what-not, its about its source material (penguin) and how it doesnt follow it.
Also, I would go with the Grass/Poison because it offers more coverage both offensively and defensively than pure Grass. -- MAGNEDETH 21:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I quote your comment higher up on this page: "The weakness to ground was what turned me off about him." Tk3141 04:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
That was forever ago. It doesn't even make sense. Empoleon should be Ice, which in-turn would remove its Ground-type weakness. -- MAGNEDETH 22:17, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

What's with Generation V?

Don't you have any hated Pokemon in that Gen.? Rajjoaby 15:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes. -- MAGNEDETH 22:17, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

When are u gonna add them? --Doggy567123 (talk) 03:30, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to see your hated Gen V Pokémon. Hurry, befire X and Y come out and you have even more catching up to do!TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 11:51, 4 February 2013 (UTC)





You, banned. Forever. FOR-E-VER. -- MAGNEDETH 23:54, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


First, i'd like to say sorry if i screw up the posting process - this all looks kinda complicated. Second, i want to mention Darmanitan (normal mode) for its stupid sprite for when used by the player. I would use it's neat attack stat if i did not have to look at it's stupid butt all the time in battle. Razerchuk7 17:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

it looks a little silly, but not otherwise noteworthy. Darmanitan is pretty cool. -- MAGNEDETH 01:03, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Milotic and Others



Oh, thank you thank you thank you for not hating Eevee/Mew. I luv those guys!!!! (PLZ excuse my text lingo) Eeveewithwings123 (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Sableye, by artimies7

Ok, so you mentioned Sableye as one of the Pokémon that you downvoted. While I respect your opinion, I cannot agree. With proper training and a good moveset, Sableye can be a valuable addition to one's team.

Consider this: If you choose from the multitude of STAB moves available to you with Sableye, especially Shadow Claw with its utilization of the high Attack stat, you could do a lot of damage to those Pokémon who are defending against other, normally more effective moves. In addition, Dig is available as a TM move, so you can use Sableye for greater strategic gain there against two-turn charging moves.

Added to this is Sableye's lack of weaknesses. I know you mentioned this as a detraction, but if you take the time to catch one and bring him to the point where you can actually use him, it's a major benefit.

As a small bonus, a shiny Sableye is pure gold: [1]

*This statement may help to prevent cancer. (talk) 02:01, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Well played

I pretty much agree with every decision you've made here (although I do support Infernape as an excellent lead) and I had a good laugh reading through them. I do have one suggestion, though. With the advent of the Gates to Infinity demo, I've played through dozens of Magnagate dungeons, and have found a new Pokémon to hate.


At the low level you find them at in the demo, they like to decrease your stats with Growl and Tickle. And I can only guess that they are going to get even more annoying when they learn Sing.

JUST ATTACK ME! AT LEAST THAT HEALS AUTOMATICALLY! Dragonhat (talk) 02:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


Not being nitpicky, but why not add Roggenrola's evolved forms? Equally annoying for the same exact reason... Frozen Fennec 03:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Not much of a point in repeating evolutions for the same thing. -- MAGNEDETH 21:57, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Corsola is best Pokemon

You're just jealous of its sheer awesomeitude!--TheProphetJerematic (talk) 00:11, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


You said here that you hate walls, but why is Steelix, a huge wall, in your favourites? Prisoner123 (talk) 13:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


This page and the Sprite page are genial in comments and conclusions, really, when I was reading it, I was almost dying of laughing. And something else, now I am talking here about sprite page, why didn't you list Chansey since it sprite is really like a balloon on whom someone has sat and then used duct tape to fix it. Anyway, its genial! Lokki (talk) 16:43, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Why do you hate walls?

Spamming STAB attacks (and the occasional coverage move) is boring. Getting opponents to complain about needing to go to the bathroom is what competitive battling is all about. Besides, you said you liked Venusaur, Snorlax, Xatu, Gliscor, and Togekiss, which are all very annoying walls. But it is refreshing when I find a fellow Pikachu hater. Sumwun (talk) 03:23, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Hey, wait why Munchlax?

Munchlax is just too smart for you, isn't he? He can eat everything, and everybody knows that not many one can do that. And then: why do you hate Aipom and Marill? All right, Aipom has a too idiotic face, but why Marill? They have managed to MAKE A MOUSE!! Isn't it wonderful? Previously they managed to make an Armadillo, and they managed to make a Jerboa, and a fat rat, but this time, they actually made a mouse! And then... AMPHAROS!!! WHY DO YOU HATE HIM??? ITS ALREDY LONELY AND HAS NO FRIENDS, AND THEN YOU HATE HIM????? Lokki (talk) 09:02, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

A bit of extra

And no, I'm not yelling at you because one or more of my favorite Pokémon are on this list. I'm adding to some hate. Like Plusle and Minun's shinnies. WHY DO THEY LOOK THE EXACT SAME AS THE REGULAR VARIANTS?! Next, Delcatty, but not to add hate, the reason why its here is because I want you to compare the Gen III sprite   with the Gen V sprite  . Wait, where did the yellow spot on Delcatty's head go?! Next is... wait... ok, I guess this is yelling because one of my favorites is on the list, but come on, Castform's design is based on a WATER MOLECULE, and it isn't that much of a gimmick as it only has forms that have at least something to do with the water cycle (Normal: Condensation (aka clouds), Sun: Evaporation, Rain/Hail (Yeah): Precipitation (ice is frozen water), Sand form doesn't exist because Sandstorms have nothing to do with the water cycle), so its literally a living water cycle. I'm done yelling. Luvdisc: Its just a heart-shaped fish. What was the point of this thing. Pelipper: OH DEAR ARKOOS THE PROTECT STALLING IS SO ANNOYING. Dusclops: The same problem as Pelipper, only worse due to Pressure. Spinda: It sucks, and was just something that took up space in the game data. Infernape: Its a Fire Monkey that knows karate. Why do people like this thing? Torterra is much cooler (Its not even a wall, it hits really hard)! Mothim: Its literally just Moth...him, because its just a Moth that is a him. Ambipom: Hits too hard, is too fast, and can kill your mons in Nuzlockes if you're not careful (Jaden Animations lost her starter to one because she didn't pay attention to its Screech). Lumineon: Why does this thing exist, if not to be impossible to encounter in DP because you need to see it to encounter it, because the guy who gives you the Super Rod (the item needed to fish one up) is behind the guys preventing you from getting to the post-game routes until you've seen every Pokémon in the game! WHY?! [Y]?! [Yellow]?! [Gamma]?! Darmanitan Zen: Seriously, what is the point of this thing. It makes a good Pokémon that can ACTUALLY DIE into a wall that shouldn't exist. Regular Darmanitan is good, and Zen Mode was a waste of a hidden ability. Amoonguss: The only thing helping its popularity was Among Us, and when that died, so did Amoonguss' popularity. Also, it sucks as a reliable stat reseter, as Haze is a much better move since it targets EVERYTHING on the field, so it removes your negative stat changes and your opponent's buffs instead of just one target excluding yourself, making this mushroom just plain bad. Mandibuzz: It. is. a. mother. f'ing. wall. I think I've helped a bit. - totally signed comment from Kirbychu Showdown (talkcontribs) 19:38, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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