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 Thank you, and have a good time editing here!
  ~~Takoto - サソデイ 22:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)  

You Seem Familiar

Hmm... Do I know you from somewhere? =3 --DarkfireTaimatsu 10:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Sewiously, I don't think we've ever met before. It totally wasn't on some Homestar Runner-based Wiki or anything like that. Nope, nope, we're total strangers. --HeroicJay 16:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, then, I'm sorry to have disturbed you. But feel free to stick around. --DarkfireTaimatsu 07:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Sit down

I would appreciate it if you didn't patronize my staff. I'm not gonna lie, that list is probably all true, but probably don't work here. I want definite facts, not "probable" facts. If you think Serebii is the end all of Pokémon information, then go to Serebii. But when you want facts backed up with official proof, we will be here. -- MAGNEDETH 23:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

While I may have been unnecessarily snide, and for that I apologize, I think you read way to far into that post. --HeroicJay 23:59, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Alternatively, I'm not sure you know how far your comment went. -- MAGNEDETH 00:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Then maybe your skin's too thin? I actually did tell him the reason why the page was not being moved (okay, yes, in a snide way, for which I already said I'm sorry.) --HeroicJay 00:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
And I'm having a hard time accepting the apology with these seemingly backhanded replies to be honest. You're essentially telling me you're sorry, but not that much. I assure you my skin is just fine, but when someone takes a jab at my staff for doing their job, I don't see why I should just let it slide, regardless of the comments severity (be it acknowledged as harsh or not on either end). I don't want to make a big deal out of this, and I hope you don't either, so simply put, just be careful how you word yourself next time. -- MAGNEDETH 00:16, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Maybe my apology would be more sincere had you not accused me of saying that "Serebii is the end all of Pokémon" information, when even in the snide version I said literally nothing about Serebii (the only reason it's even part of this discussion is the page it was posted on) or been vague about how far my post went. I'm not going to apologize for things I did not do and I'm not going to apologize for vague things I might have done. This is what I know I did: I was snide and passive-aggressive. I shouldn't have been. I'm sorry. I already altered the post to remove the rudeness, and if this version's not good enough then I don't know what to say. --HeroicJay
PS. And apparently someone (not you) decided I'm not even allowed to change it, which I don't get, but you can't say I didn't try. --HeroicJay 00:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I fully admit that mentioning Serebii was indeed incorrect of me. I believe I may have heard your comment and thought "oh good, someone else who thinks we should be sourcing Serebii" and in turn, I suppose it's the opposite of how you stated I read too far into your comments, whereas I didn't read far enough, and I apologize. That being said, I am sorry for insinuating such a thing, and in return, hope you understand at least the base message I am trying to convey, which is that I'd like people to respect the staff. Also, it is against our talk page policy to remove or edit comments made, so Jo was just following the rule on that one. -- MAGNEDETH 01:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I can accept that. And I really do have a bad habit of occasionally being more abrasive than I mean to be; I wasn't trying to encourage Wiki rebellion or anything. As for the talk page confusion, I am more accustomed to another Wiki where editing your own posts (but not others') on talk pages is fully acceptable - in this sort of situation, it would be openly encouraged - so I just fell back to that without realizing the rules were different here. --HeroicJay 01:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, we have a lot of rules a lot of other sites don't. Like the userspace policy, so it's understandable. -- MAGNEDETH 01:16, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit Warring

I see what you did here, and I would like to leave you a message: instead of undoing revisions for the second time, talk to the user that has undone it. That will make things clear. If not, head to the staff. Anyway, altough it seems realistic, that unnoficial information should not be added until a confirmation from an official source comes. So if you want to argue, go here*. Thanks. オリナル TheOriginalOne 18:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

I had a second point in there that went completely ignored by the re-reversion and not the time to sort it out. Didn't look to be any consensus to remove. I'll talk. --HeroicJay (talk) 22:36, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
PS. It's not edit warring if I reverted ONCE. I did not revert a second time. Blame Pumpkinking for edit warring, not me. --HeroicJay (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Or 0danmaster I suppose was to blame. But any edit war came in response to my edit. --HeroicJay (talk) 08:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I meant you should have talked to him before taking that decision. Since that's unofficial stuff, something that goes against the Bulbapedia policy, I left it undone again. And I was expecting peace coming from such eventual conversation. But after 0danmaster undid my edit it all happened very quickly: Pumpkin striked again with the edit with which I agreed and G50 temporarily protected the article because of that.
Ok, you may not be the main one here, but the fact is that the previous conversation on this page shows this is not the first time you have trouble telling the difference between official and unofficial stuff. I don't blame you, but please be careful: the admin probably didn't leave the recently protected page as it was just because. Despite the summary, which is still helpful. Start a conversation somewhere if you still think you're right. オリナル TheOriginalOne 16:07, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I did start a conversation on Talk:Gender, where I admitted that, if I had seen the reversion before a page lockdown at a point when I had time to deal with it, I would have just put the removed Pokemon in the lower chart, and it's clear you didn't read the above conversation, where the issue was not really between official vs. unofficial information (indeed, the conversation above was spawned by a talk page comment where I told someone not to put unconfirmed-at-the-time (though ultimately true in the end) information on a page), but someone accusing me of things I did not do... which, actually, means it is pretty darned similar to this conversation. --HeroicJay (talk) 16:25, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, sorry for my assumption. And I wasn't really meaning to accuse you of edit warring, but rather to give you a tip on how to avoid such thing (because I was already seeing that possibility). I have nothing else to say now. オリナル TheOriginalOne 16:31, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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