Listen you! I don't know what the hell your problem is but when a sysop tells you not to do something, you don't do it.

Yes that evidence is dub-only. I don't like it either but that doesn't mean it doesn't count. Incase you haven't noticed, we're the English Pokémon Wiki meaning that we will mention things from the dub as evidence. If you want to go by what only the Japanese version says then go to the Japanese Pokémon Wiki.

For the last time, let it go and DO NOT remove that evidence again. --ケンジ ガール 06:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, has Bulbapedia become a dictatorship now? We are only supposed to write what sysops want us to write and not what is the truth? Wow, I guess this wiki needs some fixing then. If you are a sysop, shame on you trying to bully me into not reverting vandalism. Of course their words don't count, this isn't a fanfic wiki. Pokeshipping isn't part of the actual series and therefore is subject only to real evidence, not made up evidence that the dub created. Satoshi does like Kasumi, but can we please be real and not degrade the shipping by sinking to using made up conversations as evidence? Also, was your opening statement really necessary? What were you trying to accomplish by using that word? AjaaniSherisu 07:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow you really don't get it do you? THE DUB COUNTS AS EVIDENCE. Do you not understand? Maybe if I said it in Japanese then you'd believe me because that's the only thing you seem to find acceptable.
It's not a "fanfic" if it was created by Pokémon USA, an OFFICIAL company. A fanfic is something that you or me would make up. Someone with no money and no contract. So what if it's the US, it still matters. They have the rights to change it how they want even if it is stupid. Believe me, I wanted it to be removed at one time or another but I've come to realize that the US only evidence needs to be mentioned.
Besides it a shipping page that's not even on the main space. Hard facts don't matter. As long as you don't say "Misty and Ash kissed in EP067" or something farfetched like that.
And no, I'm not a sysop, but I aways respect their descisions. When multiple sysops say something should be included then it probably should stay there. They keep this place organized. --ケンジ ガール 09:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I am starting to understand what you mean, but I think that we should make a section specifically for the US only evidence to separate it from the canon evidence. I never meant that the dub was a fanfic though, but more that the dub choosing to add that dialog was fanfic-esque, as the dialog changes were clearly meant to add more to that relationship than was originally there, much like fanfics. It does affect because people will use this page to state their evidence for how much more evidence there is for Pokeshipping, and thus lower their credibility when people can clearly state that the songs are not canon.
I still am not sure which sysops told me not to remove it though. I haven't been here too long, so I don't know who is a sysop or not. I really don't understand why you are battling me when you agree with me that it's not canon. I'll agree with you that I guess it has it's say in the article, but you and I both know it's not canon. Hard facts should always matter, this is an encyclopedia, not an game. I'm glad though that people on this page aren't going as crazy as the ones who say "they are standing side by side, that is evidence", hehehehe ^_^. I'm sorry if I came across as rude, I just felt like they were portraying the dub evidence as if it was canon. Thank you by the way for the welcome page ^_^. AjaaniSherisu 10:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

There's your sysops. Glinn 06:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


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I saw that you didn't get the welcome message. --ケンジ ガール 06:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)