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I recently made the edit about Smeargle's learning Sketch and not being able to use it prior to the battle with the player, and after a question asked by Martonimos during a correction, I was wondering if anyone could think of another with an ability or move like that, and if they could mention it on either this talk or the article? I will also look into it. Theininen 00:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Mimic, perhaps? And Ditto with Transform? Sorry if I've missed where you're going with this :/ — THE TROM — 10:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Pokémon who know Thief, Trick, or Switcheroo aren't more likely to hold items, or hold items from other wild Pokémon nearby they might have fought. You don't find already transformed Dittos outside of Snap, and Skill Swap users always start the fight with their own skills, although these 2 reset between battles normally.Spriteless 14:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Losing money?

Why do we lose money when we loose to any legendarie like azelf?--Maii 21:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)Maii

Because you panic and drop some. Or at least that's what it said in FRLG (I ran a test the other night). 梅子 22:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I just tried it out, and it's not just legendaries that cause you to lose money.
Again, this is FRLG, not sure if it's different in other games. (So, to keep this relevant to the article... should we add a note about money loss into there?) 梅子 22:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Cheryl Picture

It's a nice touch, but I don't know if it's really necessary, especially cause it doesn't look like it's that great quality. PichuMaster 20:28, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Triggered encounters

Would there be any merit to having a section in this page/a new page that lists all the Pokémon that are encountered (in a battle where it can be caught) through interacting with them in the wild in some manner (as opposed to random encounters in grass, etc.)? Roaming Pokémon should not be included here, because they're just a modification to standard grass encounters, not a forceful trigger of an encounter.

Such Pokémon are: all the legendaries and Snorlax in Gen 1; Lugia/Ho-Oh and some Electrode in Gen 2; Kecleon, the golems, Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza in Gen 3, etc. Obviously I've missed several out here. Each Pokémon in the lists (one/two per Generation) is listed with their encounter levels and locations, as well as notes on how to trigger it if necessary (e.g. need the Devon Scope for Kecleon). ~ Serial Colour 03:07, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Gen V Change

You can find double battle wild Pokémon on Route 16 by yourself, in a grassy area where single battle wild pokemon can be found. --+ Joeshie + (is Mæ!) 22:00, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Dream World

Are Pokémon befriended from the Pokémon Dream World wild Pokémon? --Enervation 20:14, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

I believe they are considered so, considering you have to catch them in dream balls to really capture them. It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 20:19, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
While capturing a wild Pokémon in Entree Forest, the in-game description was: "Nidoran♀ seems to want to join [player name]'s party...Would you like to add the Pokémon to your party? (yes)(battle screen) The Nidoran♀ you saw in your dream appeared!"* No mention of wildness... --Enervation 20:44, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
The term wild is pretty loose to be quite honest. The Pokémon in the dream world are technically nonexistent, so I guess they could be considered wild without being said to be so. It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 02:45, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Are they nonexistent? I always assumed that they were real wild Pokémon who were dreaming. --AndyPKMN (talk) 15:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Dr. Footstep

Some of the trained Pokémon's thoughts on wild Pokémon could somehow fit onto this page, such as:

  • "Some wild Pokémon frown upon others for traveling with humans. They jeer that the caught Pokémon have "forgotten" the wild. But that view is mistaken. They have just never met a Trainer who could be a great partner. A great partner like (player), in other words..."
  • "Not for a moment did I think I would be traveling with a human... If my Pokémon friends were to see me now, they would be shocked. Or would they be envious of me...?"
  • "Trainer is... A remarkable human and Trainer. That I can always perform the best any Pokémon possibly can...I attribute that entirely to my partner Trainer. When we travel I can see wild Pokémon eyeing us enviously..." --Enervation 21:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


Wild Pokémon select a move randomly, right? So is the probability of choosing [move] based on how many moves it knows, or is it based on power points? ~Enervation 14:29, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Wild Pokemon Caught Symbol

When you encounter a wild Pokemon that you have already caught before in Generation 3 and up, a Pokeball icon will appear under the Pokemon name to let you know that you have already caught it without having to check your pokedex. I know that this feature is not available in Generation 1, my question is, does the little pokeball icon appear in Generation 2 games to let you know if you have caught a wild pokemon already or not? - unsigned comment from Aleeo34152 (talkcontribs)

Yes there is the symbol in the 2nd Generation games. Only the 1st Generation did not have that feature. Adamws (talk) 03:37, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Is the wild pokémon that appears affected by the first pokémon in your team (abilities aside)?

I often experience this in the games: having a certain pokémon in top, some wild pokémons appear more often than others. For example, I'm training somewhere and the pokémon that appear in the zone are, let's say, mankey, ratatta, and pidgey. When my first pokémon is ekans, I would get more encounters with ratatta, but as soon as I switch to zubat as first pokémon, I get more pidgey encounters. All that is completely made to illustrate my point, but it has happened very often to me. So I wonder if the encounter algorythm uses the first pokémon as a variable to define the encounter. Is it like this or is my imagination? --Godshawk (talk) 02:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

It's probably just in your head. =P But if you want to go ahead and gather a bunch of data, feel free to do that. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:19, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I'll do that, just for the sake of science!! just kidding, maybe I'll gather some statistical data while I train, and see if something comes up, we have the encounter rates for everywhere it won't be hard to draw a comparison. Godshawk (talk) 04:34, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I can't say if it was an oversight, but it DOES happen. (That Gen 1 thing)

The deleted text was

Due to a programming oversight in Generation I, a wild Pokémon's moveset may exclude a move it should know if it also knows that move at level 1. This is because the game generates the Pokémon's level 1 moveset, then overwrites moves one by one up to its actual level. For example, the game would generate a level 50 Golbat in Pokémon Yellow with its starting moves (Leech Life, Screech, and Bite), fills the fourth slot with Supersonic (level 10), then tries to add Bite (level 15) but fails since Bite is already in the moveset. The game goes on to overwrite the first three moves with Confuse Ray (level 21), Wing Attack (level 32), and Haze (level 43), producing a Golbat without Bite even though it is one of Golbat's most recent four moves at level 50.

Basically, I caught a Golbat here & noticed it had Supersonic instead of Bite, so I put an incomplete tag on its Gen 1 page, thinking it was wrong. Force Fire undid my edit & replied to my talk page, explaining the oddity.

Anyway, whether it's an oversight or not, it does happen & I feel it should be mentioned regardless. Unowninator (talk) 22:27, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Does it work differently in later games? If not, you're making an issue over literally nothing. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:33, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
(Oops; misread the question). I'm pretty sure it's unique to gen 1. Unowninator (talk) 23:08, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Pretty sure is not at all good enough. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Huh? Why do you think that? Unowninator (talk) 23:21, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Because it's ASSUMING. You don't actually know. That's NOT good enough. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
And suppose I were to check & confirm it, would it be acceptable? (Unfortunately, I can't check gen 2; batteries died :{ Unowninator (talk) 23:25, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
That's pretty much the idea. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:28, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Very well, I'll do what I can. I'll be back. If anyone can check gen 2 for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Unowninator (talk) 23:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay, so here's my results (will be updated as I progress)

  • Gen 2: Can't do it; batteries are dead :{ Can someone else do it please?
  • Gen 3: Still looking
  • Gen 4: Lv. 38 Parasect has Leech Life Spore, Slash & Growth. The oddity does NOT happen.
  • Gen 5: Lv. 57 Kecleon w/ Thief, Substitute, Shadow Claw & Ancient Power. The oddity does NOT happen.

Unowninator (talk) 00:00, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm super confused about your Kecleon. On the one hand, what are you even looking at that you think that moveset proves anything? And on the other hand, by our Gen V learnset for Kecleon, there's no way a wild Kecleon should be able to have those moves.
Your Gen IV Parasect proves nothing. It can have the same moveset if the game does what you think it should or if it does what you think is "odd". Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:12, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  • facepalms* Ugghhh, I'm such an idiot I ****ed (am I allowed to swear here?) up with Kecleon. I'll find another example later.
I forgot to mention that Parasect was from Heart Gold. If the oddity happened. it would have Poison Powder instead of Leech Life. Unowninator (talk) 00:20, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't think you understand what the game does. When the game needs a wild Pokemon it's generating to learn a new move when it already knows four moves, it "pushes" the Pokemon's moves up, losing the first one. A lv 1 Parasect would have Scratch, Stun Spore, PoisonPowder, and Leech Life. Up to lv 15, its moves would be the same. Starting at lv 17, it should lose Scratch, then Stun Spore, and then PoisonPowder, so that its moveset at lv38 would be Leech Life, Spore, Slash, Growth. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:28, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Let us see if this can be made easy for HG/SS. In the Rocket HG, there are three Level 23 Electrode that can be encountered. This should easily be compared to its moveset. Options similar to this will likely be available for most of the generations. --Super goku (talk) 04:17, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Gen IV Electrode is just like the Gen IV Parasect. At lv 1 Electrode has the four lv 1 moves, and then up to lv 14 its moveset won't change as a wild Pokemon. At lv 15, Charge gets pushed off...and from then on, Electrode's movesets under the "non-odd" and "odd" methods are indistinguishable. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Then, is there a Pokémon that is even available in the games that would cause what is trying to be reproduced? --Super goku (talk) 05:18, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I thought of Kyurem for gen 5 (Imprison), but I can't find mine. I'm still looking for another gen 4 Pokemon. I'll get back to you. Unowninator (talk) 05:26, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Update: So far, no good; nothing I tried for gen 4 works. =/ Unowninator (talk) 06:08, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I can't tell what good Kyurem and/or Imprison would be for Gen V either... I can't see any issue in Kyurem's learnset like is at question here. And we'd really appreciate if you weren't trying to "find your Kyurem", i.e., something you previously caught... I'm going to guess that, above, you mistook a Kecleon you touched for a newly caught Kecleon, and if you're just looking through your storage, you're ALWAYS going to run that risk; you should catch yourself a brand new Pokemon in order to be absolutely sure you haven't done anything to it you've forgotten about. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:51, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Well, you were right about me looking through my PC. I could've sworn Kyurem gets Imprison at level 1. Unfortunately, I couldn't find an example last night of who to catch for gen 4. Unowninator (talk) 15:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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