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Tauros/Rock Smash trivia

I just want to give this a place for anyone to chime in about this:

  • Of all the Ride Pokemon that "replace" HM moves, Tauros is the only one who does not learn that move (i.e., Rock Smash) in Sun/Moon.

It gets a bit convoluted, and it kind of sounds like Tauros "should" learn Rock Smash. I do see what the point is getting at, I'm just personally not sure if it's really notable. So: any thoughts? Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:46, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

(Interesting that you removed it then.)
I'd say it's not notable even if it was true. However, Mudsdale can't learn Rock Climb (which I'd say it replaces, although those kind of statements are entirely subjective on their own), so it's a moot discussion. Nescientist (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Although I agree it's subjective, I think it's probably worth mentioning that Lapras and Sharpedo work exactly the same way as they did in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire as their surf counterparts with Lapras being slower but able to use a fishing rod and Sharpedo being faster but removing the ability to fish with the only differences being able to travel a bit faster in both Pokemon holding the B button and Sharpedo having the ability to break rocks. Charizard also works exactly as a Pokemon with Fly would before ORAS allowing to fly to any exact location and route. TrainerSplash (talk) 21:19, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

On second thought, I don't really think it's notable either. There aren't enough Pokemon that are functionally identical to HMs (five, possibly six - I haven't played enough of Gen IV to know how exactly Rock Climb works) for a one-out-of-x to make sense, plus the fact that it apparently is not even unique. Furthermore, Sharpedo could also be considered a replacement of Rock Smash, but also cannot learn it. While I do still think it's strange that they would not give the replacement Pokemon these moves, there's no good way to make it a trivia point. Nutter Butter (talk) 21:53, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Sharpedo and Lapras

Certain sources elsewhere suggest that Sharpedo reduces the encounter rate compared to Lapras, and Serebii actually gives this a numerical value. Since this info comes from other fansites, is there any way of verifying this ourselves? (E.g. Does Sharpedo actually reduce the encounter rate or is it just because it's moving faster?). --Wowy(토크) 01:44, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Pretty sure Serebii has estimates; I believe those are the actual rate reductions. We would obviously need to match rates and Pokémon (or IDs), then we could incorporate that somehow, and that'd be awesome. Nescientist (talk) 09:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
I don't really understand the data you've linked to. Feel free to add any info you might think is relevant!--Wowy(토크) 10:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
The data says that PokemonRideOnID 0 has 50% the encounter rate, ID 1 has 15%, ID 2 has 55%, ID 3 has 20%, and ID 6 has 65%. I'm (currently) not awesome, I can't easily do the matching either (it doesn't seem to be the in-game order, and some IDs might be unused), but the immediate insight is that different Ride Pokémon may have different encounter rates, and that Serebii almost certainly has estimates. Nescientist (talk) 15:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Solgaleo and Lunala

Shouldn't Solgaleo and Lunala also be on this page? Cause you ride on them in Ultra Space. It's kinda the same as with Mantine, it isn't registered and it serves for a mini-game. Danny199 (talk) 10:00, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

They do count as they are another special form of Poke Ride with similarities to Mantine Surfing, both can be used to travel to areas. So Yeah, I say add them in.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 20:00, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
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