Talk:Mimey

Gender

Was Mimey's gender ever confirmed? (Don't forget that the female of the species is also named 'Mr.') --FabuVinny 15:54, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I think Mimey has been referred to as "he" (at least in the dub). Dan

Correct Spelling

I was just thinking about this when I corrected a Wikilink that said "Mimie." Do we know for sure that "Mimey" is the correct spelling of Delia's Mr. Mime's name? I know it was spelled as Mimie in the title for the episode, but I don't know for sure. Thoughts? --PAK Man 22:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

This is a good question, since the episode it first appears in is called It's Mr. Mimie Time. I've never actually seen it written, though. I guess we could find something in old Pokémon.com archives (if they exist)? They use to write summaries of the anime episodes. --Johans 21:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure it's Mimie... TESH^TALKSAND 20:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The closed captioning referred to Mimey as Mimey. My money's on "Mimie" on the title card of EP064 as being an error. --Shiningpikablu252 20:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Why I reverted the picture

Mr. Mime looked weird in the one Kuki chose. Plus it was glitchy looking. Please don't put it back Kuki. --ケンジの ガール 23:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry because I love your new pic--Kuki Talk 23:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Good. Glad this was resolved without conflict. --ケンジの ガール 23:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

"Refreshments?" Seriously? --ニョロトノ 666 23:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

What? It's better than some of the words other users put. --ケンジの ガール 23:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Sprite

KG, can u update it please?--Kuki Talk 23:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Page Contradictions

On a link to this page (on the episode Mr Mime Time) is states Delia nicknamed him "Mimie" due to the titlecard, but when you click it you see his nickname is "Mimey". I know this page calls him Mimey due to closed captioning, but the trivia on the episode says his name is "Mimie" due to the titlecard making a joke or whatever. So which is it, and should this page (or the other one) be fixed? CherryParanoia 19:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, even someone trying to get names by-ear probably wouldn't get "Mimie" out of Delia's dialogue. Even the audio alone would tend to lend to a "Mimey" spelling. I'm 99.99% sure that there's no way the title card was typed that way on purpose. My 2¢: Whoever thinks the title card is the way to spell this Mr. Mime's nickname has about half a brain cell max. And it's probably out shopping. --Shiningpikablu252 23:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thats an opinion. :) Then if thats the case, someone should fix the "Mimie" portion on the episode's trivia. CherryParanoia 03:20, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Evolved?

Should we put Mime Jr. in Mimey's evolutionary line?--Epic Shadow 00:13, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

No. There's no indication that it evolved from a Mime Jr. We don't have Pichu in Ash's Pikachu's evolutionary line. --Andy^P_K^M_N (talk) 11:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

We should if a Pikachu or Riachu breeds they produce a Pichu. There is no exeption for that one unlike Mime Jr. who needs to be produced with an incens.--Epic Shadow 15:58, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

No. No assumptions. If it was not shown, or at the very least mentioned (as a fact only. If it's mentioned as a possibility then it doesn't count), then that evolutionary stage is not added to the infobox. Werdnae (talk) 20:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

What about Guild Master Wigglytuff? His info box states that he spent an unkown amount of time as an Igglybuff and a Jigglypuff. Was that mentiond anywere?--Epic Shadow 21:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, in Sky you can play as him when he was an igglybuff, it's canon Ataro 21:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah... I had forgoten about that, sorry. I think I'll bring this up on Pikachu's Talk page see what some of the others have to say. If they agree with me then it gets added. If they agree with you then it stays as it is. Also I would like to make it clear that I am only doing this because I think we should have a few more opinions and that it is in no way out of disrespect or a competitive state of mind.--Epic Shadow 21:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Why I denied Mimey as Delia's Pokémon

First of all, Delia never even captured Mimey, she just befriended it and takes care of it. And she's not a certified Pokémon trainer anyway. Satoshi101 22:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

First of all, where's the proof that says she was never a Trainer? And while there's no concrete proof, the fact Mimey has lived with her for every season since the first and only listens to her commands kind of insinuates that they're closer than landlord and tenant. Anyway, what you've added is already said later in the article. When you've had your edits reverted twice already, perhaps there's a reason? Blazios 22:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Ahem... Misty's Togetic anyone? She never captured it yet it is hers. So... Why should Mimey get special treatment? --ケンジの ガール 22:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Misty's Togetic was acquired as an egg. Delia Ketchum was just Prof. Oak's student. Misty was a trainer to begin with, and like Ash, she had to get a license somehow. Satoshi101 19:00, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

There are no "licenses" in the anime. One can become a trainer at the age of 10 and that's all that is known. Delia sometimes uses Mimey in battle and issues it commands. That alone makes you a trainer. Also, the egg did not belong to Misty, if you are forgetting. It was found by Ash and carried around by Brock. It saw Misty first and thought she was its mother. That's the only reason she has it. She never formally caught it.--ケンジの ガール 19:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Then why wasn't Haunter or Larvitar Ash's? And there are so licenses, Ash said in the first episode "Now that I'm ten, I can finally get my Pokémon License!" It's you who needs remembering. Satoshi101 04:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

And the anime also made reference to specific levels early on which has also been dropped. The last time they mentioned a license is what, the second episode? A lot of things they said back then ended up not really being canon. As for Haunter and Larvitar, Haunter really just decided to tag along for one episode and never once battled before leaving, while I'm pretty sure Ash knew he was going to end up giving up Larvitar in the end. He was supposed to just give the Egg to Professor Elm, right? Blazios 14:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Proffesor Elm wanted to release it. And things can't become uncanon. There are just exceptions. Mimey is a Pokémon Ash wanted to catch, and him living with Delia means it's already owned? You better think about it. Satoshi101 04:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

If a license is still canon, explain why there's been no mention of it for the past 693 episodes. Of course, this matters not when you consider the fact that there's no proof she doesn't have one. Regardless of what Elm planned to do with it, the fact remains that Ash knew from the beginning that the Egg would never be his, which is why Larvitar isn't counted. There's also the fact that none of Ash's unofficial Pokémon are still in his possesion, while Mimey is still living with Delia after 12 seasons. Blazios 07:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

No proof? They never mentioned it at all. Delia befriended Mr. Mime. Ash has commanded a few Wild Pokémon and yet they aren't his. Someone could think Mimey was a Wild Pokémon and just snag it. Is Mimey Delia's and nobody else can take it? No! Mimey wasn't caught! Bulbasaur lived with Melanie. Melanie's Bulbasaur? No. Satoshi101 19:27, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

They also never mentioned that any other character in the entire series other than Ash had one. Does that mean they're all illegally training Pokémon? Ash commanded a few Wild Pokémon once, ones that never joined him or stayed for any decent length of time, as opposed to living with him for the past decade and only obeying his commands. Bulbasaur simply volunteered to guard the Hidden Village, it wouldn't matter who run the Hidden Village or if Melanie left, Bulbasaur would have stayed. Blazios 19:49, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

So does this mean you think Mimey is Delia's, illegal to be caught by someone else like Ash? Mr. Mime are very rare. Satoshi101 20:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

You're assuming two things: 1) that pokémon must be caught, or else they are wild and 2) that a pokémon couldn't make a decision to stay with a human on their own volition, without that whole "caught" business going down. Mimey chose to stay with Delia, caught or not. In the mean time, it is "hers" out of technicality. Being called "Delia's Mr. Mime" isn't wrong, when phrased like so: "the Mr. Mime of Delia's". In comparison: "Delia's housekeeper" and "the housekeeper of Delia's". It doesn't have to be seen as ownership!possession, only relation!possession, to say, "Delia's Mr. Mime;" you just instinctively see it as ownership in the strictest sense. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 22:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Now I understand. Satoshi101 00:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Unova

did Mimey accompany Dehlia to Unova do we know? - unsigned comment from Jumanji (talk • contribs)

Part Fairy Type

With Mimey putting in an appearance in future episodes, will the typing be changed to reflect Mr Mime's now part Fairy type?--BigDocFan (talk) 12:34, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

No. Unless it is mentioned that it's a Fairy type or it's shown that it's a Fairy type (i.e. not affected by a Dragon type move). Just because it's appearing in an episode doesn't automatically make it a Fairy type.--Force Fire 12:40, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Just thought I would check, will be interesting to see--BigDocFan (talk) 13:13, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Am I then only one who DOES NOT understand why a Pokemon is suddenly not its type just because the Pokemon as a species was retconned? And I realize this was recently confirmed in the newest episode, but it never made any sense to be so stringent and LIE and say that a Pokemon is NOT of a type. I can understand gender differences, I can understand abilities, these all can be attributed to anime =/= games, I'm more than willing accept that. But a Pokemon's TYPE, it literally makes no sense to say that a Pokemon can be represented as its original typing in a generation where that original typing doesn't exist and was retconned. No stretch of the imagination can justify a Mr. Mime being both PURE psychic and psychic/fairy just because anime =/= games. Especially given the new episode confirming that a Pokemon's type is indeed retconned. I get Dawn's Togekiss, because she hasn't shown up in 6th generation or beyond so as far as anyone can be concerned, Togekiss is still part normal, because it last appeared where that was true but yes a Pokemon appearing in an episode in a generation where a Pokemon has a specific type being ignored because of stringy attitude of "anime=/=games" and has to outright be explicitly mentioned makes NO sense to me. But if that's the rule of the site.....I guess I have to accept it. --Dman dustin (talk) 19:36, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

This page isn't lying if it's not outright saying its type, and it was also not implying that it's both a Psychic and a Psychic/Fairy. Because, again, the page doesn't outright say its type. This isn't a case of anime=/=games, it's a case of whether the anime will actually follow the game and retcon its type (which it did).--Force Fire 04:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Ash's Pokémon?

I know it might be soon to tell, but shouldn't Mimey be included as Ash's Pokémon now? Also, they're now referring to him as "Mr. Mime" (Barrierd) instead of his nickname, so shouldn't its name (temporarily) be changed to its actual name? Just wanted to those doubts off my mind. HygorBH (talk) 13:16, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Two points

1- To me, in my opinion, Mimey is a Delia's Pokémon yet. She simply left him in the lab and his Poké Ball in Ash's possession. Nothing changed. In more than twenty years of the anime, we've never had any indications to the contrary, Battle Frontier, Sinnoh League, Kanto League, nothing. Until something changes, I think he should be in a "Taking Care" category or in the temporary Poké. Probably what happened is just one episode thing. Especially because I have the theory that the protagonist of this saga is Go and not Ash (who is occupying something like the role of Brock or Cilan this time). Mimey is an easy solution to not rescue anything from Ash's past. Nothing else.

2- There's a triva that talks about Mimey's type change, but he didn't change, he got one more type(Togepi, on the other hand, this one did have a retcon and I believe it was never officially captured by Misty). He's still a psychic type. Just received one more type. By the way, since since his first appearance, he stayed with Ash's mother, he's not a recurring Pokémon. Since he has a Poké Ball, his capture was off screen.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 11:16, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Until more episodes air, we won't know
There was still a retcon that happened, it became a dual type. So that counts as a change.--Force Fire 05:22, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

So...

What is the consensus on this article's name going forward? Alolan Open House! showed that Delia apparently has her own nicknaming pattern like most Pokémon Adventures main characters, as Mimey fits in with the three nicknames she gave to his Alola team and Ash himself doesn't use any of these nicknames, including Mimey. Now that the Japanese supplementary material which shows it as a Pokémon he caught is clearly displayed, I personally do feel "Ash's Mr. Mime" should maybe have priority over "Mimey" at the moment. Of course, I'm only one guy sharing his opinion.

Either way, I guess the factor which should decide this is, like the same trivia point says, whether he's just kept it at home instead of with Oak (then move to Ash's Mr. Mime since it's always been his), or if he gave it away like he did with Beedrill (then stay at Mimey since it's now hers). If we were to learn how Mimey ended up with Delia then we'll know for sure which group it falls under, right? Gengar zilla! 00:28, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Mimey was present since It's Mr. Mimie [sic] Time! way back in the original series, and it's pretty clear in that episode that Delia was the one who actually "caught" it due to her mistaking it for her then-abducted son (Ash didn't even KNOW about Mimey until he managed to arrive home upon escaping Team Rocket). At most, you can say that she GAVE it to Ash, like Brock's Vulpix was given to him by Suzy. Weedle Mchairybug (talk) 12:18, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, but the thing is, back in the B/W series, there was a website that showcased ALL of ASH'S Pokémon that he captured over the course of the anime, and Mr. Mime showed up shortly after Charizard, if I'm not mistaken. So, clearly, they did not plan this ahead, but now it's pretty much confirmed that Ash caught it and gave it to Delia, and his surprised reaction... well, I guess we can call it a plot hole, then. If a official website listed Mr. Mime as Ash's Pokémon, and Ash calls it by its species name, I suppose it can be changed from "Mimey" to "Mr. Mime", right? I'm just sharing my thoughts. HygorBH (talk) 03:27, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Actually, Ash never even GOT a chance to capture it, since that circus ringleader interfered due to wanting a replacement for her own Mr. Mime to drive it to stop slacking off, and aside from that, its invisible barrier deflected the poke ball. Most likely that official site was mistaken. Wouldn't be the first time an official source made a mistake, as several video game guides and even some of Hideo Kojima's commentaries can attest to. Weedle Mchairybug (talk) 13:33, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Mr. Mime was never actually shown being caught in its debut episode; in fact, its Poké Ball made its first ever appearance in SS007 (over 1,000 episodes later). In addition, as shown by the trivia section, there are at least three official Japanese sources that have referred to Mr. Mime as Ash's Pokemon (with two of those sources being prior to PM 2019), so I don't think you can just attribute it to simply being a mistake. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 01:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Mimey

Ash specifically referred to it as Mimey in JN023, telling it to use Reflect. "Mimey use Reflect."Roserade57 (talk) 20:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but what's the issue? Adil — Talk page 06:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

there was a discussion further up on if this page should be renamed to "Ash's Mr. Mime" now that he's outright shown to own it and that "mimey" could've just been a name his mum used like when she said "litty" for litten. but now we have seen ash use the name "mimey" specifically when referring to it in battle showing that it is indeed its nickname and not just something delia calls it as ash uses the name too. speaking of which the lead of this article says "Ash's Mr. Mime (Japanese: サトシのバリヤード Satoshi's Barrierd)" instead of its nickname like all the other nicknamed pokemon like snowy or growlie.Roserade57 (talk) 07:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

In the Japanese version of the same episode, he still refers to it as "Barrierd" rather than "Barri-chan", so it's a dub-only thing so far from what I can tell. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 16:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

type change

when was mimey's type change confirmed? Pikachu210 (talk) 19:12, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

SM024's Who's That Pokemon segment featured Mimey in the Japanese version, and it showed it's type as Psychic/Fairy.--Force Fire 05:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Isn't saying Ash "caught" Mimey speculation?

Isn't saying Mimey "is the eleventh Pokémon that Ash caught in the Kanto region, and his twelfth overall." speculation?

I mean, we never saw Ash catch Mimey, and if for arguments sake, that's assume that the offical lists "prove" that Mimey does indeed belong to Ash. Isn't it still speculation to assume Ash caught it and that it's the eleventh Pokemon he caught? I mean, he never "caught" Pikachu but Pikachu is still Ash's pokemon. --Squirtle Gardevoir (talk) 19:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Too speculated. It was obtained by Delia in its debut. KyleR Giggs 04:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

"It was obtained by Delia in its debut."

Mr. Mime wasn't shown being caught by anyone in its debut. In addition, it's the only time frame that Ash could have come into ownership of Mr. Mime to begin with, as two of those official sources indicate that Ash owned it long before Journeys. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 07:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

After re-reading the initial post, I now realize now that it's not the "ownership" part that's in question, but rather the semantics of the "caught" part (since it was caught off-screen). I suppose that part could indeed be considered speculation. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 08:07, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Ash's Mr. Mime

Episode pages prior to JN007 still state in the "Pokémon" section that Mimey is Delia's. Should that be changed now? Or is it simpler to just leave that way, as it is still sort of ambiguous if Mimey belongs to Delia or Ash? - unsigned comment from Shinka (talk • contribs)

Its not entirely clear who owns Mimey, episodes prior to JN007 saw it as being Delia's. She asked it to look after Ash in JN002 which to me suggests it is hers and Ash only used it in battle the once when he had no other Pokemon on hand. I feel that for now, episodes prior to JN007 should continue to show Mimey as Delia's--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 19:50, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

BigDocFan, the problem with that is the fact that two official sources prior to Journeys had already classified Mr. Mime as being one of Ash's Pokémon. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 17:02, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

I think the best way to consider Mimey is that this is a Pokémon from the Ketchum family. It belongs to both Ash and Delia, sort of like a "pet". This last week's episode featured Mimey as Ash's Pokemon, so I think it's the best way to deal with Pokemon ownership.´´Hikaru Wazana (talk) 00:25, 16 November 2022 (UTC)