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Someone reverted my edit to the trivia. I put that Lucian is the only Elite Four member that does not have at least one attack of his specialty type on each of his Pokemon, which is true (his Medicahm lacks a Psychic attack); which I found interesting to note since he is also the only Elite Four member where all of his Pokemon are of his specialty type (as it states already). I'm wondering why my addition was removed. --ZellMurasame 16:25, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Re-reverted it. Took me a second to understand it, but when I scrolled up to the teamplate (heheh) Medicham was lacking a Psychic-type attack.. kinda of a shame, no STAB on his Medicham. ;) Tina δ 16:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


Lucian DOES have a known relative. It's one of those old guys in those houses on Route 228. One of them says this:
"I spend all my time reading here. My son is an avid reader, too. I recently learned
that the word universe meant time and space in an ancient language."
Master Lucario Lucian may love to read, but he's far from the only one in Sinnoh. TTEchidna 00:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
For all we know, that guy's kid might not even be in the same country he's in. For all we know, that kid could be in a starting town in another country. --Shiningpikablu252 00:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
But still the fact that he reads a lot is largely advertised feature of him in the games and the books in the old guy's room are full of books about mind reading and such psychic related stuff. They are also the right age for that kind of family relation.--Wikid

Name Origin

Since Team Rocket of Generation I, poison-type pokemon are used as often as the dark-type to represent evil, and psychic attacks are super-effective against such pokemon. This associates the psychic type with light, as does its (less advantageous) opposition to the Dark type and Ghost type. Should something to this effect be added to the segment on the origins of his names? - unsigned comment from SixthFlyingMan (talkcontribs)

The psychic-type isn't super-effective against dark, it's absolutely ineffective. Meanwhile, dark is super-effective against psychic. It was introduced in gen II largely to balance out the psychic type. --Martonimos((Argh|Blargh)) 08:58, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Lucian's Bronzong

I've found that in the generation IV games, the Bronzong used by Lucian has Levitate. Perhaps this could be noted somewhere in the appropriate section? Zell65 10:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Lucian's ESP?

Trivia section says he may have ESP as indicated by his timing his book to be finihsed as the player arrives.

"Ah, you timed your arrival well. I've just finished reading a book, you see. Allow me to introduce myself. I am Lucian. I am a user of the Psychic type. I must say, you've already proven yourself to be outstanding by coming this far. They say I am the toughest of the Elite Four. I'm afraid I will have to go all out against you to live up to that reputation."

His quote from the game doesn't imply that he timed his reading to coincide with the player's appearance, but merely that it was good timing for the player to arrive. I'm not sure if I should edit it out though because its just a trivia thing.

--Outrage DD 00:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

If the trivia's more false than true, what's the point of keeping it, implying it as truth? Ditch it. ArcToraphim 00:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


", yet he is also the only one who does not have at least one move of his specialty type on each of his Pokémon."

The medicham part is right. But not the moves. Mr. Mime, Girafarig, Bronzong and Alakazam knows Psychic.--FF(editstalk) 05:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

"yet he is also the only one who does not have at least one move of his specialty type on each of his Pokémon"
Medicham doesnt so it is right. We mean to say that he is the only elite to have a Pokémon without a move of his type speciality. --Prongs (TalkContributions) 06:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Without a move of his speciality type means his Pokémon doesn't know any Psychic-type mpves--FF(editstalk) 06:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
That isn't as important. There is more weight in the fact that all other Sinnoh E4s have at least one Pokemon not of their type (Drapion, Sudowoodo, Drifblim/Steelix/Loppuny). Hence I removed it. — THE TROM — 06:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Meh, was trying to prove the trivia wrong. who cares really.--FF(editstalk) 06:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I think TROM is right.Without a move of his speciality type means his Pokémon doesn't know any Psychic-type moves, actually.--Prongs (TalkContributions) 06:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I said that, Trom said all other Sinnoh Elite fours have at least one Pokémon not of their type.--FF(editstalk) 06:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh man mpves: moves. --Prongs (TalkContributions) 06:22, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Don't let a little typo Intimidate you.--FF(editstalk) 06:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually I have a shield against that. --Prongs (TalkContributions) 06:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Quote Formatting

I added a new section for Lucian's quotes at Canalave Library. However, I'm not sure if I've formatted them correctly or if the layout is too confusing. Advice accepted, comment if you think something should be changed. ChaudCo 19:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Chinese Name

Lucian appears to have TWO chinese names, one from Taiwan and the other from the Mainland. I got this from the video at : Could someone verify it for me? (The mainland name is supposed to be 梧阳, it's in the subtitles.

--Eon-flamewing 02:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

It's obviously a fansub. Official chinese subs are in different font, not to mention that there's a voice-over in official Chinese dub. Also, as far as I'm concerned, Mainland China has stopped airing Pokemon a while ago. --Maxim 20:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Voice Actor

I have read on a few sites, mainly '' that Bill Rogers voices Lucian. I may be wrong - does anybody know for certain? Bubblewrap 19:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


Are you absolutely, POSTITIVELY sure that Lucian is a dude...? I'm so confused. - unsigned comment from LoadOfMentos (talkcontribs)

Please sign your comments with four tildes, ~~~~. And yes, we are sure he is male. It's very common in Japan to design some males to be androgynous; they are known as bishounen.--PhantomJunkie 22:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


It says in the trivia that Lucian is the only male sinnoh elite four member not to be voiced by Tom Wayland in the english dub, but I looked on Aaron's page here, and according to it Aaron isn't voiced by Tom Wayland either so this point should be removed. Pokemon champ 00:10, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


Is the fact that Aaron and Lucian share their names with characters from another video game really noteworthy trivia? It's not likely that's reference or anything.--SirOni (talk) 08:26, 6 July 2014 (UTC)SirOni

Possible Hometown... gym leader?

Since Lucian is found in Canalave City, is it possible that that is his hometown? If this comment is unsigned, then either I missed a tilde or am grieving. Or both. Is it possible that Lucian is from Canalave City and that he was the former gym leader? I have a reason behind the question of him being the gym leader. WATERWarrior67

Nothing suggests it. He says he's there to read. glikglak 01:22, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
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