European Zarude
I don't know what it should be called instead, but "Gamestop's Zarude" is a bad name for it as it's not being distributed at Gamestop in every country (a lot of countries don't even have Gamestop). Following convention it should be called "Jungle Zarude" - but we already have that in the list so I don't know if it causes issues. I believe this is the first time we've encountered this as in previous generations the events were split by region. Perhaps "Japanese Jungle Zarude" and "European Jungle Zarude"?JMVB - very sporadic editor since 2008 (talk) 15:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I put it under gameestop zarude because i dont know what is a better term. usually the original distribution wont have any prefix (so jungle zarude will remain for japanese). Australia and US is also getting their zarude which might or might not be the same zarude. so not sure what is a better term to replace gamestop's zarude. i initially want to put western since it is outside asia but australia is not really west. -Pokeant (talk) 02:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Reformatting Proposal
I would propose 2 changes be made to the way event lists are done for the games on Nintendo switch, as I feel like the current practice of putting everything in 1 list is unsustainable.
1.) That the Internet and serial code lists be merged. The list of Internet events is a tiny list in comparison as serial codes seem to be the preferred distribution method, and internet events are few and far between (and not even used for LGPE). It would not add that much to the list and this would allow for proposal 2 to happen without creating too many new lists. The method of distribution is described in the event description and in the template anyway.
2.) That the event list be split by origin marker. Few reasons for this... Historically before the Nintendo Switch, Origin marks (Kalos Pentagon/Alola Clover) have been synonymous with their respective generations. Ever since the game boy days, every game within a specific generation was made to be compatible with each other to facilitate trading etc. Since games within the same generation had the same data structure and could communicate with one another it made sense to keep each list generation specific. since LGPE this is no longer the case, each set or releases now comes with a limited number of available Pokemon in addition to a new file type for Pokemon, and accompanying this new file type is a new origin mark. As the games are no longer compatible with one an other and the Pokemon distributed to the different games are going to always be fundamentally different I would suggest splitting these lists accordingly.
Be good to hear what others think! 4iamking (talk) 06:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
- Since I made this proposal over a year ago, i still feel like its worth considering, the idea being to consolidate the various pages for In-person/Internet/Serial code event pages and present them into a single page for each game pair in the name of List of event Pokémon distributions (Sword and Shield) etc. theres a few reasons for this:
- 1 - It makes it simpler to go through and see what specifically was available to a game specifically, would remove all the “in X game set” sections. currently if you just want to see whats availble for BDSP for example your gonna be scrolling through a lot of SwSh events, that aren't even transferable to that game.
- 2 - Distribution methods since the end of the 3DS era have narrowed significantly, these days 90% of distributions are code based which means the lists on other pages are already pretty short, and regardless, all event redemptions use the same mystery gift system anyway. As an example the list for local events only contains one event, and on Nintendo Switch the distribution method has only existed in SwSh.
- 3 - Region locking is no longer a thing, this already reduces the number of required event pages significantly.
- 4 - Since the removal of the national dex many pokémon are absent from other games, so many events Pokémon cant be transferred to games even of the same generation, even within the same generation, and the games themselves have unique game-specific mechanics/gimmicks. Thats why each game pair gets a unique origin mark these days.
- 5 - we already kinda do it with the LGPE mew basicially being the same event as the one on swsh but that one is posted on 2 seperate pages. (as is should be as the distributed pokemon isnt the same).
- Anyway thought i'd put my reasoning here-- 4iamking (talk) 13:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Put proposals as to what this might look like on my user page here for: SwSh | BDSP | LA.-- 4iamking (talk) 14:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- This is a great idea, and much more intuitive than the current system. Full support from me!
- I would add that, once we have a page for each "game environment", we can have subsections on the page for the different methods. That way the functionality of sorting by methods is still there, for those interested.--Boblers (talk) 22:59, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- For the record, this is approved.
- I'm not too sure what benefit is brought by sections for events by method. Just chronological seems fine? But I've ignored a lot of events for a while. ^^; Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:31, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- Put proposals as to what this might look like on my user page here for: SwSh | BDSP | LA.-- 4iamking (talk) 14:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)