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Funny do you that, very informative, also i notice the Pokémon prior to Gen VI ones, are the same data from Gen V:

http://serebii.net/black2white2/pwt/rentalmaster.shtml

This Pokémon are used in the Battle Subway and the PWT rentals, also in the Battle Institute, same goes for the Gen VI iteration?

Can you make a list of the Trainers and Pokémon of the many Battle Facilities since Gen II? --HoopsterJohn (talk) 14:59, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Please note that we cannot under any circumstances take information from Serebii. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:15, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Lol just scrolled to the bottom. Landorus sets don't match. Sorry Trivia section, another day... Oh, but yeah, I am working on lists for other facilities. I already got the Battle Subway done- it's on my namespace. TehPerson (talk) 14:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Move to List of battle area Pokémon (Generation VI)

I think this should be moved. The Pokemon on this page are not used only at the Battle Maison. I have an example of the moved page at User:Tiddlywinks/List of battle area Pokémon (Generation VI) (a work in progress for the moment; but if this will be moved, my page can be merged with this one before or after the move).

Even if this page stays at this title, it should at least be merged with my page. The tables on this page are not ideal for how the page should reasonably be used; on my page, the tables include all the information a reader will need to figure out the possible teams for a Trainer as easily as possible.

Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:11, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I've actually been considering making a Battle area page in order to categorize these types of facilities for a while, and I don't care much for the current name anyways. I like your approach with adding the types to the chart. TehPerson (talk) 04:17, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Fully-calculated base stats vs EV's

Would the users prefer the chart to contain the effort values or the actual stats, assuming 31 IV's? This would allow for users to sort Pokemon by their already-calculated speeds for the competitive folks using "Speed Tiers." (Choice Scarf calculation will still have to be manual though.) And after battle 31, all opponents use 31 IV's, so the 31-IV assumption only holds false in a short run. Additionally, even if the 31-IV assumption doesn't hold for a particular battle, it still provides a useful upper-bound value. Alternatively, since the cells can hold two lines of text, I can list both a 0-IV and a 31-IV value for a bound range - the sort order would be the same regardless.

The other side of the argument, of course, is that it may be misleading since earlier opponents use weaker Pokemon, and in normal Maison, 31-IV's never even apply. Purists who want to adhere to the conventions that other sites have used might think that just giving the raw information is good enough and anyone with a stat calculator can easily the work. Also, I can't fit both EV's and stats on the table, and there are probably people who still like to see what Pokemon got what EV's.

Here is an example of what it would look like. (See colored columns only)

TehPerson (talk) 04:17, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

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