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I just watched the episode and noticed that the "Dragon Rage" attack the article claims Charizard used was the same as the "Rage Flame Thrower" used by Charmander when battling Mankey/Primape. Its possible that it was just a Rage powered Flame Thrower like back then.--Lycos Ex Mortis 10:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


When Charizard breaks the drill, it looks like it uses Stomp. Since Charizard can't learn Stomp in the games, do you think it's just a coincidence? Bulbajer 00:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


The synopsis appears to have major grammar problems, but not having seen the episode, I wouldn't trust myself to fix it. It should be looked at, though.KrytenKoro 17:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Rage/Dragon Rage

Can someone help clear this up? This page says that the referral to Ash's Charizard's Dragon Rage was a mistake. However, as has been earlier mentioned, the tail growing bigger exactly matched Charmander using Rage all the episodes earlier, and the fireball wasl likely a Rage fuelled Flamethrower. The fireball looks nothing like Dragon Rage which Charizard uses against Gary in the Silver Conference. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 07:58, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Bump. Please someone address this. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 22:23, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
It is Ryuu no Ikari (Dragon Rage) in the original version of this episode as identified by the Pokédex. I think it probably looked different in the Silver Conference because moves tend to change appearance when the anime undergoes design changes. --ケンジガール 22:54, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
It appears to be one of those dub transition mistakes, can someone please fix it up in Ash's Charizard? I was only writing it based off the dub because my Japanese is very rusty. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:24, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
I have to agree with Toon Ganondorf. In the episode where Charizard battles Articuno in the Battle Frontier, it is seen using both Rage and Dragon Rage. Ash's Charizard most likely learned Rage at that time and Dragon Rage at the Charicific Valley. (Charizard101 14:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC))
Charizard learned Rage back when it was a Charmander. It learned Dragon Rage in the original (the true) version of this episode. --ケンジガール 05:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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