That's a big assumption that her name came from 小春 (a period in autumn with kinda hot weather, literally "little spring"). Both her father's name and her hair decoration references cherry blossoms, which is always connected with spring season. So it's more likely that it comes from 春, literally "spring".--Martianmister (talk) 06:58, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Sakuragi
Shouldn't her name be "Koharu Sakuragi" then?Roserade57 (talk) 01:50, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Yamper
Should have its own profile page since it belongs to the main character. - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talk • contribs)
- Chloe isn't really considered a main character as yet but we are working on a page for Yamper.--BigDocFan (talk) 21:49, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Speaking of which, I think Chloe should be at the top along with the other protagonists in the corresponding places. It is already clear that she will take a different course, and at some point will become a trainer.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:55, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- That spot is only reserved for main characters, which Chloe is currently definitely not. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 21:58, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Speaking of which, I think Chloe should be at the top along with the other protagonists in the corresponding places. It is already clear that she will take a different course, and at some point will become a trainer.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 21:55, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Full name
Considering the fact that she’s related to Professor Cerise. Shouldn’t she be called “Chloe Cerise”? - unsigned comment from PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk • contribs)
- I asked this earlier (though with the Japanese name since we didnt have the dub name at the time) and my thought is yes. would be weird for the kid not to have the same name as the both parents...Roserade57 (talk) 23:24, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I’m glad you agree. --PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 01:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
- There are families that take the mother's name, you know. Ataro (talk) 02:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- then the professor would have that surname too. theyre married, and he has the surname Cerise.Roserade57 (talk) 05:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- There are cases where spouses don't share the same surname. Animaltamer706:05, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Think whatever you want, but I feel like it’s best assumed that Chloe does share the same surname as her father. --PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 15:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
- japanese law: The Right to a Name: 74. Article 790 of the Civil Code of Japan provides that a legitimate child assumes the surname of his/her father and mother and an illegitimate child assumes the surname of his/her mother. The Family Registration Law establishes that the name of a newborn child shall be stated in the notification of birth, which shall be submitted after birth. : so unless chloe was an illegitimate child she was registered with the father's surname through the law. my parents wernet married when I was born (they married a few months later) but I was registered with my dad's surname. the spouse may go with a different name, but the kid by default takes their dad's name.Roserade57 (talk) 17:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Like I said, think whatever you want. I’m not trying to change anyone’s assumptions or thoughts. --PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 17:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
- I think as a informational site we should never assume anything and leave it like that until someone says her full name. Readers can deduce on their own her surname if they want.--Rocket Grunt 18:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- You're trying to apply real life laws to a fictional show, Roserade57... We will not assume just because of traditions, we will wait until the writers actually say that her last name is Cerise.--ForceFire 18:08, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I see no reason why you wouldn't.Roserade57 (talk) 18:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Suit yourselves.--PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 19:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
- Agree to disagree. I don’t want this to turn into a heated argument, and I was just sharing my thoughts on what I thought should be added. I see what you mean, but regardless of it, I’m sticking with my beliefs.--PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 19:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
- Suit yourselves.--PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 19:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
- I see no reason why you wouldn't.Roserade57 (talk) 18:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- You're trying to apply real life laws to a fictional show, Roserade57... We will not assume just because of traditions, we will wait until the writers actually say that her last name is Cerise.--ForceFire 18:08, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think as a informational site we should never assume anything and leave it like that until someone says her full name. Readers can deduce on their own her surname if they want.--Rocket Grunt 18:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Think whatever you want, but I feel like it’s best assumed that Chloe does share the same surname as her father. --PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 15:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
- There are cases where spouses don't share the same surname. Animaltamer706:05, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- then the professor would have that surname too. theyre married, and he has the surname Cerise.Roserade57 (talk) 05:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- There are families that take the mother's name, you know. Ataro (talk) 02:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I’m glad you agree. --PercyTheSmallEngine6 (talk) 01:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)PercyTheSmallEngine6
Personality
Not sure what a good word for this would be, but Chloe seems to get really excited by the prospect of romance. JN011 shows her visibly blushing excitedly when she thought that Talia stuck to her career because of Professor Cerise. JN057 speaks for itself here. I'm sure there are other examples that I can't recall right now, but these are the two that I can think of off the top of my head (I also haven't watched or learned about the events of anything past JN060 outside of a few minor things, since I'm a US person and stick to the Netflix releases, and want to keep my exposure to future episodes to a minimum). Regardless, I think we should put in a paragraph about this, but I just wanted to get it approved here first. JdRDMS (talk) 04:12, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Move request
I think this page shall be moved to "Chloe Cerise" because many online sources like Wikipedia and the Fandom Pokémon Wiki list her name as "Chloe Cerise". Rap Monster (talk) 09:06, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Surname has not been confirmed in anyway on screen so unless it does, the page will remain "Chloe"--BigDocFan (talk) 09:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Jumping on this conversation to say, well, JN120 confirmed her surname is "Cerise/Sakuragi". So, should her article be renamed "Chloe Cerise"? HygorBH (talk) 01:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- I feel like it isn't necessary unless we want to future-proof for any potential disambiguation purposes. Landfish7 03:52, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- then why do Ash Ketchum and Steven Stone use full names, just admit youre lazyRoserade57 (talk) 19:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- I feel like it isn't necessary unless we want to future-proof for any potential disambiguation purposes. Landfish7 03:52, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Jumping on this conversation to say, well, JN120 confirmed her surname is "Cerise/Sakuragi". So, should her article be renamed "Chloe Cerise"? HygorBH (talk) 01:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Full name
Not including characters of the day (mainly Marnie and Paige), is Chloe the first female character to have her full name revealed in the Japanese version? Delia Ketchum, Aurea Juniper, Philena Ivy, Vivian/Lilian Meridian: those originated from the English dub/localization, right? - unsigned comment from Shinka (talk • contribs)
Chloe's page
Am I able to edit her page? - unsigned comment from CuteSylveon42 (talk • contribs)
- I have the same question. I would like to add an information in the voice cast and I cannot edit it. --Haruka VII (talk) 16:18, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's strange, the page isn't protected so anyone should be able to edit the page.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 16:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- It was semi-protected. I've taken the protection off so you can edit it now.--ForceFire 16:37, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- It works now, thank you! --Haruka VII (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- It was semi-protected. I've taken the protection off so you can edit it now.--ForceFire 16:37, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's strange, the page isn't protected so anyone should be able to edit the page.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 16:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Chloe is a Protagonist
I think Chloe is a Protagonist of Pokémon Journeys series, she almost appeared in the every episode of Pokémon Journeys. Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 08:27, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- She physically appeared in less than half of the episodes, even if only taking the primary portion of Journeys into account (53/136, which is roughly 39%). That's definitely not "almost every episode". PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 09:30, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Is there any reliable source that says she isn't protagonist? Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 12:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Chloe was never referred to as a main character on the official website or in any other official material, therefore, she is not a main character.--ForceFire 12:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can you provide any reliable source that lists Ash and Goh as protagonist but not Chloe? Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 06:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- These are the three sources we have that list Ash and Goh as dual protagonists.
- Can you provide any reliable source that lists Ash and Goh as protagonist but not Chloe? Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 06:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Chloe was never referred to as a main character on the official website or in any other official material, therefore, she is not a main character.--ForceFire 12:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Is there any reliable source that says she isn't protagonist? Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 12:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello PokemonMasterJamal3, Force Fire and Maverick Nate Is there any other reliable source that says Chloe is a supporting character? Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 13:47, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Bulbapedia has three different sources stating that Chloe is a supporting character, including the Pokémon Japan's PR notice, I think three is more than enough.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 14:26, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, the one that lists Chloe is the Japanese press release directly from the company. I don't see us getting a source that's more reliable than the company itself. MaverickNate 14:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- There will be no actual material stating that Chloe is a protagonist. I think that for all intents and purposes, Chloe is a character like Kukui, Alain or Team Rocket in Best Wishes; a recurring character of greater relevance.
- In my opinion, Bulbapedia should change the classification of characters like Misty, Brock or Chloe from main characters to traveling companions. Unfortunately, in the Ash-era series, the only protagonist or main character is Ash himself. And this became evident with the end of the eleven episodes of Pokémon Journeys. And in this case, if we did something like this, we could put Chloe alongside the other characters from the anime who traveled with Ash.--Hikaru Wazana (talk)
- Hikaru Wazana I don't agree with you, Misty and Brock are protagonist of Original series unlike Chloe who rarely appears in Journeys. Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 15:17, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with the above. In addition, Jessie and James are also classified as main characters. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:22, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Maverick Nate Well I know that Chloe is a supporting character but I found a source that says Chloe turns into a protagonist when she catches eevee, what's your opinion on this? Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 15:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- BigDocFan, Actually only one of them has listed Chloe. I need a reliable source that lists Chloe as a supporting character for some other purpose not for Bulbapedia. Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 14:30, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Main characters get a lot of focus in the anime, Chloe has received so little that I would call her a supporting character. She rarely went out with Ash and Goh on their adventures.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 15:25, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Chloe was more prominent than Tracey if you look more closely, Shadab, for example. That's why I think creating a "traveling companions" nomenclature is more viable than discussing whether or not Chloe is a protagonist.
- What I'm suggesting isn't even that different, some pages do this with Doctor Who characters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companion_(Doctor_Who)--
- Which, in the end, has the same concept as what we saw with Ash's friends in the anime.Hikaru Wazana (talk) 15:42, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Main characters get a lot of focus in the anime, Chloe has received so little that I would call her a supporting character. She rarely went out with Ash and Goh on their adventures.--BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 15:25, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- BigDocFan, Actually only one of them has listed Chloe. I need a reliable source that lists Chloe as a supporting character for some other purpose not for Bulbapedia. Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 14:30, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Maverick Nate Well I know that Chloe is a supporting character but I found a source that says Chloe turns into a protagonist when she catches eevee, what's your opinion on this? Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 15:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with the above. In addition, Jessie and James are also classified as main characters. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:22, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hikaru Wazana I don't agree with you, Misty and Brock are protagonist of Original series unlike Chloe who rarely appears in Journeys. Shadab Kun Alt (talk) 15:17, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- In my opinion, Bulbapedia should change the classification of characters like Misty, Brock or Chloe from main characters to traveling companions. Unfortunately, in the Ash-era series, the only protagonist or main character is Ash himself. And this became evident with the end of the eleven episodes of Pokémon Journeys. And in this case, if we did something like this, we could put Chloe alongside the other characters from the anime who traveled with Ash.--Hikaru Wazana (talk)
- There will be no actual material stating that Chloe is a protagonist. I think that for all intents and purposes, Chloe is a character like Kukui, Alain or Team Rocket in Best Wishes; a recurring character of greater relevance.
- Yeah, the one that lists Chloe is the Japanese press release directly from the company. I don't see us getting a source that's more reliable than the company itself. MaverickNate 14:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
(resetting indent)@Shadab Kun Alt: Regarding the link you posted, I don't believe that particular article should be considered reliable. Looking at the content of it as a whole, it's full of speculation about Eevee being "all but confirmed" to receive a new evolution in SV and that Chloe's Eevee would evolve into this supposed evolution... (well, we know how both of those panned out), as well as saying that there's "never been an Eevee in the Pokémon anime that does not evolve", despite there having been a prominent Eevee in the prior series (Sandy) that didn't evolve. Additionally, I feel like if there are sources in different languages claiming different things, the Japanese source(s) should take priority (after all, it is a Japanese series).
(Side note, but I think I figured out the non-Bulbapedia purpose being referred to here... it's probably best to avoid getting involved in that, though.)
@Hikaru Wazana: An important thing to note is that Chloe has never been a consistent traveling companion. On top of being absent for most of the main portion of Journeys, she never traveled with Ash for more than 2 episodes in a row (outside of JN129-JN132, but she spent nearly all of that time just watching Ash's battle against Leon), whereas Tracey traveled with Ash and Misty for the entirely of the Orange Islands Saga. I also think that "traveling companions" would muddy things a bit in regards to the classmates from Sun & Moon.
I also don't entirely agree with the assessment on main characters. I feel like it's pretty clear that Ash's friends (as well as Team Rocket in the first three series) are main characters in their own right; it's just that there's a distinction between the main character (Ash) and a main character (the others). Additionally, a few of Ash's companions have had their own Gym challenge-equivalent storylines: May and Dawn with Contests, Serena with Showcases, and Goh with Project Mew. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 10:15, 20 November 2023 (UTC)