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Talk:Berry fields (Kalos)


The game treats the area as part of Route 7 for everything except the background music, so the information about location and items could be merged into there. The berry growing information would probably be better suited to the Berry page. - signed comment from GoldenCelebi (pedia talknews talkarchives talk) 18:46, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I personally think it would be better to have it all in one place. The music is different, there are wild Pokémon and a few items too. I think it should have a separate article. Using that logic, the Battle Chateau page should also be merged into Route 7. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:39, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Solar Dragon, also, this might not be the best point, but it was a Bureaucrat who started linking to this page, not just a random user -EVsandIVsaurs 19:44, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I agree on the merge to the Berry page. That page listed places to plant Berries and caring for Berry plants, so the merge there makes more sense than merging to Route 7's page. Berrenta (talk) 14:30, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
I'd rather keep it separate. It is a location, so would not be merged into the Berry article (although that article certainly needs to link here). It would be merged into the Route 7 article, but I think it is fine to have its own page. --SnorlaxMonster 14:34, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
My opinions aren't any different. Although it's technically part of Route 7, it still is its own location with not only its own music and wild Pokémon, but also its own mechanics. No real need for a merge. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 13:17, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with any merge. It's more than sufficiently separate to have its own page, I think. --Wynd Fox 01:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Would this be enough against a merge to remove the merge templates? -EVsandIVsaurs 02:02, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Berry color

I would add which color is each berry, as some are difficult to guess. Erzapito (talk) 13:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

On the subject of Berry color, I've added Enigma Berry to Purple berries. Shaking Enigma trees yield Illumise, and composting with 2 Colbur berries yields Surprise Mulch, evidence that the game treats them as purple. Z4x0r (talk) 23:56, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Berry Hold Item Rate

Whenever I encounter Pokémon that supposedly have a 100% chance of holding a certain colour Berry, it never does have an item. Is it possible there's only a narrow time frame in which said Pokémon have a berry? Blob55 (talk) 05:47, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

This is about the color of the Berry tree it appears on, not the item it holds. --SnorlaxMonster 05:49, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
I clearly made a new section. Just because I forgot to change what was at the summery doesn't mean this isn't the hold item discussion. Blob55 (talk) 11:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I phrased my answer poorly. What you're looking at has nothing to do with the held item, it is the color of the Berry tree the wild Pokémon appears on. The page does not list the held items of the Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 11:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Name capitalization

According to the history, SnorlaxMonster moved this page to "Berry fields" based on the Mulch descriptions. I'd like to point out that they say Mulch to be used on a Berry field. In other words, the Mulch description is just using a generic description, not the actual name of anything. Berry Fields should be the correct capitalization of this page because it is the proper name of a distinct location in the games, and proper names are capitalized. You wouldn't uncapitalize "New york city" or "Sea spirit's den", so I don't see why "Berry Fields" is being subjected to this misunderstanding of the Mulch descriptions' grammar. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 07:41, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Guidebook also doesn't capitalize it. It's not a proper noun, it's a description of a place like "Kurt's house" etc. --SnorlaxMonster 17:01, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to question you further, but what's the context used in the guidebook? Is it actually calling it by that name, or is it a generic usage like the Mulches? (Or is it ambiguous, like a section header or something?) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
"The Berry fields offer plenty of spots to plant your Berries."
"You can simply plant your Berries and water them if you like, or you can use one of the composters around the Berry fields to make Mulch out of some of your Berries first."
"After the first mutation occurs, a Scientist will appear and stop you as you try to leave the Berry fields." --SnorlaxMonster 01:39, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough. It still seems really weird to me, though. But I guess canon is just inconsistent sometimes. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:20, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Should it not at least be pointed out that the Town Map capitalises the name as Berry Fields? - Blazios talk 08:57, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
The Town Map capitalizes everything. There are plenty of instances in previous games where it says "X's House", even though it isn't a proper noun and should be "X's house". --SnorlaxMonster 09:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Watering Trick

Not sure where to put this on the page, or if it needs to be put down anyway. A simple trick to watering the fields, when your character takes out the watering can and uses it on the buried berry, if you press left or right, and there's a dry buried berry in that direction, after watering the current berry the character will automatically walk over and water the next. You can do this down a row of planted berries to water them all at once, rather than selecting each patch and choosing to water them one at a time. Drake Clawfang (talk) 19:41, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

That was in Generation IV, too. (And maybe RSE; I don't know.) It's nothing new. —Minimiscience (talk) 20:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Can confirm, worked in Sapphire. Still, it IS handy, and may be worth mentioning, as it's the only place in the game it can be done. -- PhoenyxStar (talk) 06:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
I agree. What about the people who are playing Pokémon for the first time? They're not gonna know how to do that. Heck, I only discovered it myself accidentally, and after several Berry harvests. It saves a lot of time and would be useful information. --TheVeryBest 14:47, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps we should add a new section entitled "Care" Where it explains the simple instructions of mulching, planting, watering, weeding and pest control?

Here is a mock up

Planting and Berry Care

Applying mulch or planting a berry is done by selecting a empty mound of soft soil, and then pressing the A button. If a berry is planted with or without mulch, it is immediately able to be watered. Dry mounds with a berry planted in them may be watered individually, or watered in rows by pressing left or right on the direction pad. The Player is not restricted to one direction, and may choose to begin watering in the opposite direction at any time. Mounds that have not been planted, or whom have already been watered will simply be skipped over, and the next dry mound attended to instead. A mound will continuously be watered until the Player presses A, B, or ↑ on the directional pad. When weeds have sprouted on the mound, they however must be individually taken care of, with the player having to walk to and then select each effected mound.

How does that look? Yamitora1 (talk) 21:13, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Thhat you can move while using the Sprinklotoad is still the only thing actually notable in that example. The rest is just minutiae or too obvious/basic (pressing A to interact with a plot...). I put the basic idea in trivia. Users can play with it just fine to figure out the rest; it's not like there's any risk to it. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:39, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Drying berry plots

The article says the berry plots "dry up over time depending on the mulch and Berry used", while I have not noticed any difference between berries, the drying time seems to be around 24 hours unless boost mulch is used (I haven't tried the apicot, lansat, kee, maranga, starf and several of the anti-super-effective berries yet though). Do we know these berries have a different drying time or is this an assumption based on previous games? Is it 24 hours for most berries or is it slightly more or less? Does anyone know the effects of boost mulch (I think about 6 to 8 hours drying time, but I'm just using it for the first time, so I'm unsure). PinkShinyRose (talk) 22:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I tested the Kee and Maranga berries and they seem to have a growth time of around 24 hours using Rich Mulch. I'm still unsure on the effect of Boost Mulch, I think it causes a drying time of 6 hours, it's shorter than the 8 hours. I still need to more accurately determine the drying time for both use cases, but it seems reasonable to assume all berries have an identical drying rate and need watering around every 24 hours unless Boost Mulch is used. I also suspect the effect of Boost Mulch to be identical for all berries and plan to submit this information to the article once I have more accurate information. PinkShinyRose (talk) 20:47, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Amaze and Boost Mulch result in a 4 hour drying time. PinkShinyRose (talk) 15:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Move to "Berry Fields"

The Town Map, when hovering over Route 7, calls it "Berry Fields". Note the capital "F". Pikachu Bros. (talk) 01:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

See above. No offense, but I'm reverting the template addition since it's already been discussed. Feel free to try to restart the discussion if you really want, though. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:03, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh, whoops. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 17:38, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Mutation Tiers

When looking over the mutations in berries, I noticed that there were three "tiers" of mutations, with the first resuting the IV berries, the second having stat-raising berries, and the third resulting in a different set of stat-raising berries.
All the berry mutations in each 'tier' have similar result berries*, and each tier requires a berry from the previous tier.
My question is whether or not this is enough to put the 'tiers' on the page, I've gone ahead and separated the tiers in the mutation template to make it easier to look at*, but I wasn't sure whether or not to put it in text. -EVsandIVsaurs 22:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I like it. Nice job spotting that. It probably is best to explain it in the text rather than have people wondering why the table is separated like that. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:16, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Hmm, I'm not quite sure how to phrase it for adding to the page, do you have any idea of how it could be phrased? -EVsandIVsaurs 01:28, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Certainly. Done. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Why list nonexistent berries?

Why does this page list the colours of things like Durin Berry and Magost Berry if they aren't available in Kalos? (talk) 03:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Because we know this information to be correct because it is in the official guidebook. --SnorlaxMonster 04:02, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Hoenn berry fields

I'm not exactly sure what needs to be done, but we do have a slight naming issue present. A few places in ORAS (such as the map description) refer to the garden at the Berry Master's house on Route 123 as Berry fields, which would cause a name conflict. However, I'm not sure if we should just add something to this page or not since the ORAS berry fields is nothing special compared to other berry plots while berries in XY work very differently. Thoughts on how it should be mentioned? --HoennMaster 07:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps a "not to be confused with Berry Master's garden" at the top of the page would suffice? Partone (talk) 05:11, 18 January 2015 (UTC)Partone

HoennMaster, you said there were a "few places", but I only found one "Berry fields" in the ORAS text dump, and there weren't even any other cases of "Berry" and "fields" even being near each other that I saw. I don't see much need for any sort of disambiguation. Like you say, they are quite different anyways. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:46, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Watering Time

Has there been any correlation between how long is spent watering a berry plot vs how long it will take to dry out? Thanks --D

Once the timer starts, the time should always be the same: 4 or 24 hours, depending on the mulch. And I'm pretty sure that the timer starts when you pull out the watering can (and the same timer applies to anything you water while you still have it out), since I've commonly watered a row of Berries at the tail end of a minute and the row always dries out all at once. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:35, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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