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<span style="color:#FF0000"><big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big></span>{{TalkArchive}}
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
 
==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c41a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 
No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|<span style="color:#9966CC;">Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic</span>]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 
He catches Beedrill with Mankey. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 15:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 
== Agh so close to hitting it... ==
While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::No, Bill and Oak befriended all of them. Ash only befreinded one. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 15:47, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 
== Protection? ==
:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==
I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 
:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)
 
== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==
 
Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.
 
In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Well if the info on Paul's page is correct, paul has been to 3 regoins, while Ash has also been to the orange islands and in kanto again for the battle frontier, which makes it 5, so if paul is realy 11 then ash is at least older than him.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Tomas''</span>]] 09:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:... Region count has NOTHING to do with it. Eternal youth. End of discussion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 18:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, on my opinion, traveling through a region on foot takes some time, so if ash and paul are the same age than ash started eralyer than paul and if they started at around the same time, than ash is at least as old as paul or even older.But, it's only my version.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Tomas''</span>]] 15:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
::Really. What part of "eternal youth" do you not understand? Don't you think Bart Simpson getting summer vacations every so often means he should get older? But he doesn't. CARTOON. ETERNAL YOUTH. I don't know how much clearer I need to make it. Cartoons =/= real life. If you reply to this with anymore of your theories, I'm giving you a short block. And that goes for the rest of you as well who can't seem to grasp that Pokémon is a cartoon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 02:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 
==Question about voice actor==
 
I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 
I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 
I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 
== Protect ==
 
I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|<sub><span style="background:#FF8040"><span style="color:#FFFFFD">Shiny</span></span></sub>]][[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small><sup>☆</sup></small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 
== ash's dad ==
 
http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml
 
12th row, 2nd picture.
 
could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}
 
:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''Psy'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''Rider'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 
:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 
I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger and has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Tomas''</span>]]09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Enough with the speculation. This is now becoming forum content. If you want to discuss about this, take it to the forums. That is not Ash's father. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 18:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, we don't know that exactly until it airs.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Tomas''</span>]] 15:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:It already aired ages ago. That's why we have pictures. The Rapidash trainer is to Ash what Ash is to that random kid - a random trainer that they look up to. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 18:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I mean in english.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Tomas''</span>]] 11:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 
== Bottom page template ==
 
The External Links Template seems to be too big.
 
Can we put in a box that's say
 
"There are many template. Click "show".
 
I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.
 
--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 
: Thanks [[User:The dark lord trombonator|The dark lord trombonator]], the template. That's what i mean~ --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 15:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 
== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)