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==Pokemon Platinum== | ==Pokemon Platinum== | ||
that is the confirmed title according to serebii and corocoro. Giratina will be on the box, the underground will have Wi-Fi, etc. An image of it is on Serebii. | that is the confirmed title according to serebii and corocoro. Giratina will be on the box, the underground will have Wi-Fi, etc. An image of it is on Serebii.{{unsigned|Arutoa]}} | ||
:That scan you looked at is NOT confimred to be legit. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC) | :That scan you looked at is NOT confimred to be legit. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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==Generation IV with Generation II?== | ==Generation IV with Generation II?== | ||
I just can't understand how Generation I is contemporary with Generation III or how Gens II and IV are contemporary with each other. All I'm seeing is "Generation X is comtemporary with Generation Z" or that "Gen X seems to be contemporary with Gen Z", but where has that been proved?... I'm not saying that's not true, I'm just saying I find that puzzling and interesting. [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 00:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | I just can't understand how Generation I is contemporary with Generation III or how Gens II and IV are contemporary with each other. All I'm seeing is "Generation X is comtemporary with Generation Z" or that "Gen X seems to be contemporary with Gen Z", but where has that been proved?... I'm not saying that's not true, I'm just saying I find that puzzling and interesting. [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 00:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Hoenn and Kanto take place at the same time is a weak bet, but it's mostly because you don't need a time machine to trade between the games. Therefore, they must trade at the same time. Gen 2 and 4 are contemporary because of: A. the Red Gyarados report at the start of DP (which must happen before Gold/Crystal captures/defeats the Gyarados), B. References to Elm's RECENT report on eggs, and there are more, but those are two of the big ones. Persumably, it takes 3 years or so for Pokémon to reach Sinnoh (Assuming by land, on foot) from Hoenn or Kanto. | :Hoenn and Kanto take place at the same time is a weak bet, but it's mostly because you don't need a time machine to trade between the games. Therefore, they must trade at the same time. Gen 2 and 4 are contemporary because of: A. the Red Gyarados report at the start of DP (which must happen before Gold/Crystal captures/defeats the Gyarados), B. References to Elm's RECENT report on eggs, and there are more, but those are two of the big ones. Persumably, it takes 3 years or so for Pokémon to reach Sinnoh (Assuming by land, on foot) from Hoenn or Kanto.{{unsigned|Aura-Knight}} | ||
At the beginning of RBY, you have a Nes/Snes. At the beginning of RSE, you have a Gamecube. That's pretty odd, because the NES and Gamecube were released more than 10 years apart, how could they take place at the same time? The time machine doesn't necessarily indicate that RSE takes place at the same time as RBY, because since the data for pokemon was available in both FRLG and RSE, then you could freely exchange pokemon and wouldn't need an excuse to only transfer certain pokemon {{unsigned|Edge578}} | ::At the beginning of RBY, you have a Nes/Snes. At the beginning of RSE, you have a Gamecube. That's pretty odd, because the NES and Gamecube were released more than 10 years apart, how could they take place at the same time? The time machine doesn't necessarily indicate that RSE takes place at the same time as RBY, because since the data for pokemon was available in both FRLG and RSE, then you could freely exchange pokemon and wouldn't need an excuse to only transfer certain pokemon {{unsigned|Edge578}} | ||
:Remembering of course that the GameCube wasn't invented at the time of RBY, how could they have it in that game? The whole thing is based on a series of hunches, which is explained above. I don't see why it needs to be discussed further. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 20:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC) | :::Remembering of course that the GameCube wasn't invented at the time of RBY, how could they have it in that game? The whole thing is based on a series of hunches, which is explained above. I don't see why it needs to be discussed further. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 20:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
As you said before, they couldn't allow GSC pokemon into RBY because they weren't programmed into the game. In RSE, they programmed all 386 pokemon into the game, so using a Time Machine Feature isn't necessary. This does not indicate the chronology of the games.--[[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 23:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC) | ::::As you said before, they couldn't allow GSC pokemon into RBY because they weren't programmed into the game. In RSE, they programmed all 386 pokemon into the game, so using a Time Machine Feature isn't necessary. This does not indicate the chronology of the games.--[[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 23:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::Don’t insert your comments in between other people’s that way without use the indents to make it clear who is replying to whom. Um. I guess you could technically be right, but considering that Bill invents a Time Machine in ''G''/''S''/''C'' and calls it such, don’t you think he or Celio would have said something if the Network Machine transported Pokémon through time as well as to distant lands? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::Well, to be fair, Trom, it’s still a NES in ''FR''/''LG''. Which probably just means that it’s a hand-me-down system from the player’s mother/father/cousin/whatever, or Red/Leaf just really loves retro games. | |||
::::Let me put it this way, Edge: the Wii exists now, and I still have my NES. I have at least one friend who ONLY owns an NES, no newer consoles. So, not a timeline problem. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Wait, when did it say Professor Elm's report on eggs was recent?--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 13:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | ::Wait, when did it say Professor Elm's report on eggs was recent?--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 13:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::I think it is the hiker who gives you the Happiny egg in Hearthome. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 21:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | :::I think it is the hiker who gives you the Happiny egg in Hearthome. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 21:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Plus, isn’t the stuff in Sinnoh explicitly stated to be 3 years after Kanto, just like Johto is? -[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Gym Leaders == | == Gym Leaders == | ||
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recently I have been looking at some of the Kanto cities, routes and locations and many (if not all) of the pages seem to reference them as being part of generation IV? Is this just because of Pal Park possible data because that seems to hardly count as being a part of generation IV... Is there any confirmation that Kanto will be fully accessible in HeartGold/SoulSilver yet? If not, this shouldn't be assumed... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 04:39, 17 June 2009 (UTC) | recently I have been looking at some of the Kanto cities, routes and locations and many (if not all) of the pages seem to reference them as being part of generation IV? Is this just because of Pal Park possible data because that seems to hardly count as being a part of generation IV... Is there any confirmation that Kanto will be fully accessible in HeartGold/SoulSilver yet? If not, this shouldn't be assumed... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 04:39, 17 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Remake. Was all of Gen I Kanto accessible in FRLG? Find a place from RGBY that didn't appear in FRLG. Kanto's in HGSS, and since it's a '''''remake''''' it's safe to say that '''''every place in Neo Kanto will be there as it was in GS'''''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 05:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC) | :Remake. Was all of Gen I Kanto accessible in FRLG? Find a place from RGBY that didn't appear in FRLG. Kanto's in HGSS, and since it's a '''''remake''''' it's safe to say that '''''every place in Neo Kanto will be there as it was in GS'''''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 05:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Let’s hope you’re only half-right. I could deal with Viridian Forest still having trees and the various routes not being shortened, maybe an open Safari Zone? All positive as far as retcons go, Gen II Kanto was lame. I am pretty sure that with Sinnoh being that large, they could fit a more robust Kanto right in with Johto on the DS cart. Nintendo made a number of retcon improvements in ''FR''/''LG'', let’s hope they remain unafraid in ''HG''/''SS''. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC) | |||