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::Counterpoint: if no one can agree on what is/isn't, then splitting the page in that manner is functionally a no go. Generally speaking, someone should be able to determine which page they need to go to on sight, and (somehow) which games the player plays as a Pokémon is simply too subjective to split. I'd much rather just split by core and spin off, and then split further by series if needed. | ::Counterpoint: if no one can agree on what is/isn't, then splitting the page in that manner is functionally a no go. Generally speaking, someone should be able to determine which page they need to go to on sight, and (somehow) which games the player plays as a Pokémon is simply too subjective to split. I'd much rather just split by core and spin off, and then split further by series if needed. | ||
::Here's a fun case: Rumble World represents you as a Mii character. Yet the gameplay is identical to the older Rumble games, so the point of view is tied to the Pokemon. And yet, the Mii representing the player is fully capable of appearing in game in a gameplay relevant role alongside the Pokemon being used. Do you play as a Pokémon in Rumble World or not? If it counts, then what stops a core series RPG from counting? (Probably the marketing for the game, since Pokemon leaves a pretty long paper trail behind in its website. But do you see the problem?) [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 23:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC) | ::Here's a fun case: Rumble World represents you as a Mii character. Yet the gameplay is identical to the older Rumble games, so the point of view is tied to the Pokemon. And yet, the Mii representing the player is fully capable of appearing in game in a gameplay relevant role alongside the Pokemon being used. Do you play as a Pokémon in Rumble World or not? If it counts, then what stops a core series RPG from counting? (Probably the marketing for the game, since Pokemon leaves a pretty long paper trail behind in its website. But do you see the problem?) [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 23:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC) | ||
:::In my opinion, the fact that a Pokémon is owned by a Trainer does not change whether it is a playable Pokémon or not. The concept of "playable Pokémon" is about the gameplay, while the concept of "Pokémon with a Trainer" is about the lore instead. | |||
:::In Rumble World, we can control Pokémon directly. We use the D-pad to move them, and the A and B buttons to attack. In fact, the player can directly control the Pokémon while the Mii follows it automatically. | |||
:::This is one possible idea: I would suggest that the page "Playable Pokémon" can explain how things work in all the Rumble games, while the page "Player character" can have a minor summary and link to the "Playable Pokémon" page for details. | |||
:::In fact, the coverage of Rumble World on the "Player character" page is not good enough at the moment, since it just states this and nothing else: "In Pokémon Rumble World, the player starts as their Mii character." | |||
:::As for the core series, there are several ways in which we control Pokémon directly. The Pokéathlon would count, as well as the Pikachu's Beach minigame in Yellow. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC) | |||