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nidorina actually does have a line in its ear. meowth's inner ears also do not appear to be different. heracross' arm spikes are just barely visible in gsc. sneasel always has a nose.
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(nidorina actually does have a line in its ear. meowth's inner ears also do not appear to be different. heracross' arm spikes are just barely visible in gsc. sneasel always has a nose.)
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The first few generations are interesting due to the sprites having been made ''before'' the artwork, rendering the "errors" and other oddities as nothing more than design revisions.<ref>[https://youtu.be/9l8V_eQ6wGQ?t=273 Game Informer interview]</ref>
The first few generations are interesting due to the sprites having been made ''before'' the artwork, rendering the "errors" and other oddities as nothing more than design revisions.<ref>[https://youtu.be/9l8V_eQ6wGQ?t=273 Game Informer interview]</ref>


[[Generation I]], for instance, had the original designs tweaked in some places, with Pokémon Blue giving the original roster new sprites, though the back sprites were consistently left untouched. [[Pokémon Yellow]] would later update the front sprites once more, this time explicitly basing them after the Pokémon's appearance in the [[Pokémon_anime|animated series]]. In this game, the bulk of the issues stems from the {{OBP|List of Pokémon by color palette|Generation I|updated palettes}}, which namely caused {{p|Rattata}}, {{p|Shellder}}, {{p|Cloyster}}, {{p|Starmie}}, {{p|Ditto}}, {{p|Porygon}}, {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Mewtwo}}, and {{p|Mew}} to be visibly miscolored.
[[Generation I]], for instance, had the original designs tweaked in some places, with Pokémon Blue giving the original roster new sprites, though the back sprites were consistently left untouched. [[Pokémon Yellow]] would later update the front sprites once more, this time explicitly basing them after the Pokémon's appearance in the [[Pokémon_anime|animated series]]. In this game, the bulk of the issues stems from the {{OBP|List of Pokémon by color palette|Generation I|updated palettes}}, which caused {{p|Rattata}}, {{p|Shellder}}, {{p|Cloyster}}, {{p|Starmie}}, {{p|Ditto}}, {{p|Porygon}}, {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Mewtwo}}, and {{p|Mew}} to be visibly miscolored.


In [[Pokémon Gold and Silver]], the sprites for the [[Kanto]] Pokémon are mainly based on contemporary Red and Blue artwork, with some of the new elements tentatively introduced there (like Nidoqueen's fangs) making a return. Much like with Yellow, [[Pokémon Crystal]] later changed a good handful of sprites, taking a Pokémon's respective artwork as a basis. This namely affected the [[Johto]] Pokémon, and this time around the back sprites were also updated here and there.
In [[Pokémon Gold and Silver]], the sprites for the [[Kanto]] Pokémon are mainly based on contemporary Red and Blue artwork, with some of the new elements tentatively introduced there (like Nidoqueen's fangs) making a return. Much like with Yellow, [[Pokémon Crystal]] later changed a good handful of sprites, taking a Pokémon's respective artwork as a basis. This mostly affected the [[Johto]] Pokémon, and this time around the back sprites were also updated here and there.


[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire]] is likely when the artwork was starting to be drawn before the sprites, leaving most of the inconsistencies to changed colors or somewhat off-model sprites. However, many of the Generation I and II Pokémon were either copied directly from Crystal, or based on Red and Green or Red and Blue artwork, as those Pokémon had yet to be redrawn for FireRed and LeafGreen.
[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire]] is likely when the artwork was starting to be drawn before the sprites, leaving most of the inconsistencies to changed colors or somewhat off-model sprites. However, many of the Generation I and II Pokémon were either copied directly from Crystal, or based on Red and Green or Red and Blue artwork, as those Pokémon had yet to be redrawn for FireRed and LeafGreen.
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Nidorina}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Nidorina}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had a line running though the inside of its ears, not unlike Nidoqueen. Back sprite lacks spikes altogether.
| style="text-align:left" | Back sprite lacks spikes altogether.
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Golbat}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Golbat}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Red|Blue}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Red|Blue}}
| style="text-align:left" | Features a long tongue only ever seen again in the {{pkmn|Stadium series}}, {{pkmn|Colosseum}}, {{pkmn|XD: Gale of Darkness}}, and {{pkmn|Battle Revolution}}.
| style="text-align:left" | Features a long tongue only ever seen again in spin-off games.
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| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 1g 052.png]][[File:Spr b g1 052.png]]
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr b g1 052.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Meowth}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Meowth}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | The inside of its ears is different, and the back of them is black instead of cream.
| style="text-align:left" | The back of its ears are black instead of cream.
|- style="background: #fff"
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| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Red|Green}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Red|Green}}
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had a {{wp|Star of David}} on its forehead.
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had a {{wp|Star of David}} on its forehead.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 066
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 1y 066.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Machop}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has less than five fingers.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 067
| width="32px" | 067
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Slowbro}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Slowbro}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | The back of its ears is curled, instead of smooth.
| style="text-align:left" | The back of its ears are curled, instead of smooth.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 083
| width="32px" | 083
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Articuno}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Articuno}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Originally has a longer, thinner neck. Its chest fur was also less dense.
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had a longer, thinner neck. Its chest fur was also less dense.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 145
| width="32px" | 145
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Dragonite}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Dragonite}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation I]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Originally has an extraneous dorsal ridge. The Red and Blue and Yellow sprites lack the head horn.
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had an extraneous dorsal ridge. The Red and Blue and Yellow sprites lack the head horn.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 150
| width="32px" | 150
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Pidgeot}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Pidgeot}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Tail feathers aren't all pink.
| style="text-align:left" | Features Pidgeotto's tail feathers.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 025
| width="32px" | 025
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Slowbro}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Slowbro}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | The back of its ears is curled, instead of smooth.
| style="text-align:left" | The back of its ears are curled, instead of smooth.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 082
| width="32px" | 082
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|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 153
| width="32px" | 153
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 2g 153.png]][[File:Spr 2s 153.png]]
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 2g 153.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Bayleef}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Bayleef}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
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|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 167
| width="32px" | 167
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 2g 167.png]][[File:Spr 2s 167.png]][[File:Spr b 2g 167.png]]
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 2g 167.png]][[File:Spr b 2g 167.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Spinarak}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Spinarak}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Espeon}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Espeon}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has ears which don't point upwards.
| style="text-align:left" | Has eartips which don't point upwards.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 201
| width="32px" | 201
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Forretress}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Forretress}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| style="text-align:left" | Has a different shell design, with it namely featuring black spots.
| style="text-align:left" | Has a different shell design, with it featuring holes.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 207
| width="32px" | 207
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|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 214
| width="32px" | 214
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 2g 214.png]][[File:Spr 2c 214.png]]<br>[[File:Spr b 2g 214.png]][[File:Spr b 2c 214.png]]
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr b 2g 214.png]][[File:Spr b 2c 214.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Heracross}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Heracross}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | The Gold and Crystal sprites lack arm spikes, while the back sprite has visibly duller spikes.
| style="text-align:left" | The he back sprites have visibly duller arm spikes.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 215
| width="32px" | 215
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Sneasel}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Sneasel}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had brown fur, cyan feathers, longer pupils, a nose, a white forehead spot instead of a gem, and ears with a depression in them. The International sprites tweaked the eyes and ears, and Crystal later changed the rest.
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had brown fur, cyan feathers, longer pupils, a white forehead spot instead of a gem, and ears with a depression in them. The International sprites tweaked the eyes and ears, and Crystal later changed the rest.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 216
| width="32px" | 216
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Slugma}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Slugma}}
| width="15%"  | Japanese {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| width="15%"  | Japanese {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| style="text-align:left" | The Japanese sprites have extra lava bubbles on its back, which was changed in the International versions and later Crystal.
| style="text-align:left" | The Japanese back sprites have lava bubbles on its head, which was changed in the International versions and later Crystal.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 219
| width="32px" | 219
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Delibird}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Delibird}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Originally lacked the sideburns. Crystal later changed the front sprite, though the back sprite was oddly left untouched.
| style="text-align:left" | Originally lacked the sideburns. Crystal later changed the front sprite, though the back sprite was oddly left untouched. Additionally, the "button" on its chest was originally a spot rather than a raised bump.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 226
| width="32px" | 226
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Mantine}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Mantine}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | The Remoraid lacks features such as its horn and flippers.
| style="text-align:left" | The Remoraid lacks features such as its horn and flippers, which is reflected in its artwork.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 227
| width="32px" | 227
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Smoochum}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Smoochum}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had rounded hair at the bottom, with droopier wild strands on top of its head.  
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had rounded hair at the bottom, with droopier wild strands on top of its head. It also has a colored upper body in Gold and Silver.  
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 240
| width="32px" | 240
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Raikou}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Raikou}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| style="text-align:left" | Originally has a different muzzle, no ears, no whiskers, smaller fangs, an orange mane instead of a purple one, and a second, black collar. Was later changed in Crystal.
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had a different muzzle, no ears, no whiskers, smaller fangs, an orange mane instead of a purple one, and a second, black collar. Was later changed in Crystal.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 244
| width="32px" | 244
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Entei}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Entei}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| style="text-align:left" | Originally has smoother chest fur and had no sideburns. Was later changed in Crystal.
| style="text-align:left" | Originally had smoother chest fur and had no sideburns. Was later changed in Crystal.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 245
| width="32px" | 245
| width="70px" | [[File: Spr 2c 245.png]][[File: Spr b 2g 245.png]]
| width="70px" | [[File: Spr 2g 245.png]][[File: Spr 2c 245.png]][[File: Spr b 2g 245.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Suicune}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Suicune}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation II]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Back sprite has a blue chin instead of a white one, which was mistakenly added on the Crystal front sprite.
| style="text-align:left" | Head crystal is purple in Gold and Silver's front sprite and on all back sprites. The Gold and Silver front sprite is also missing a spot on its back leg. Back sprite has a blue chin instead of a white one, which was mistakenly added on the Crystal front sprite.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 247
| width="32px" | 247
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Nidoqueen}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Nidoqueen}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Is still shown with two fangs here.
| style="text-align:left" | Is shown with four fangs here, matching its artwork from Red and Blue.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 035
| width="32px" | 035
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| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}<br>{{v2|Emerald}}
| width="15%"  | {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}<br>{{v2|Emerald}}
| style="text-align:left" | Still has brown tails instead of gray ones. Later changed in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}.
| style="text-align:left" | Still has brown tails instead of gray ones. Later changed in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 142
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 3r 142.png]][[File:Spr 3e 142.png]][[File:Spr 3f 142.png]]<br>[[File:Spr b 3r 142.png]][[File:Spr b 3f 142.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Aerodactyl}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has red eyes rather than green ones.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 143
| width="32px" | 143
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| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Still has an upside-down tail.
| style="text-align:left" | Still has an upside-down tail.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 191
| width="70px" | [[File:Spr 3r 191.png]][[File:Spr 3e 191.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Sunkern}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Different eyes.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 201
| width="32px" | 201
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| width="15%"  | {{p|Mantine}}
| width="15%"  | {{p|Mantine}}
| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation III]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | The Remoraid still lacks features such as its horn and flippers.
| style="text-align:left" | The Remoraid still lacks features such as its horn and flippers, which is reflected in its Gold and Silver artwork.
|- style="background: #fff"
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 234
| width="32px" | 234
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| width="15%"  | [[Generation V]] [[core series]]
| width="15%"  | [[Generation V]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | The back sprite has the smaller gear on the wrong side.
| style="text-align:left" | The back sprite has the smaller gear on the wrong side.
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:transparent; height:5px" |
|}
==List of model discrepancies==
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; background: #{{Gen V color light}}; width:100%"
! colspan="3" | Pokémon
! colspan="1" | Game
! Reason
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 031
| width="200px"| [[File:Box XD 031.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Nidoqueen}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium series]]<br>[[Pokémon Colosseum]]<br>[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]<br>[[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]
| style="text-align:left" | Is shown with four fangs here.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 040
| width="200px"| [[File:040MSStad.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Wigglytuff}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Stomach pattern doesn't reach over the mouth.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 062
| width="200px"| [[File:Box XD 062.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Poliwrath}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium series]]<br>[[Pokémon Colosseum]]<br>[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has more than three fingers.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 125
| width="200px"| [[File:125MSStad.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Electabuzz}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has six fingers on each hand.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 142
| width="70px" | [[File:Box XD 142.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Aerodactyl}}
| width="15%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium series]]<br>[[Pokémon Colosseum]]<br>[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]<br>[[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has red eyes rather than green ones.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 144
| width="70px" | [[File:Box XD 144.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Articuno}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium series]]<br>[[Pokémon Colosseum]]<br>[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]
| style="text-align:left" | Features red eyes instead of brown ones, as well as a blue beak and talons, like in its Red and Green artwork.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 144
| width="70px" | [[File:Box PBR 144.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Articuno}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]
| style="text-align:left" | Features red eyes instead of brown ones, like in its Red and Green artwork.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 191
| width="70px" | [[File:Box XD 144.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Sunkern}}
| width="15%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium 2]]<br>[[Pokémon Colosseum]]<br>[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]<br>[[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has green irises.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 208
| width="200px"| [[File:Box XD 201H.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Unown}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Stadium 2]]<br>[[Pokémon Colosseum]]<br>[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]<br>[[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]
| style="text-align:left" | The H Unown is slightly asymmetrical.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 208
| width="200px"| [[File:Box XD 208.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Steelix}}
| width="20%"  | [[Pokémon Colosseum]]<br>[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]<br>[[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]
| style="text-align:left" | Has blue eyes rather than red ones.
|- style="background: #fff"
| width="32px" | 431
| width="200px"| [[File:Spr 6x 431.png]]
| width="15%"  | {{p|Glameow}}
| width="20%"  | [[Generation VI]] [[core series]]
| style="text-align:left" | Ears are at the wrong angle. Notably the only model changed between Generations VI and VII.
|-
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:transparent; height:5px" |
| colspan="4" style="background:transparent; height:5px" |
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