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This is supposed to be a resource that helps people understand these mechanics, not further alienate them from the concept. The majority of players who actively play by large still use the term "Effort Values" and do not use "Species Strength" for "Base Stats". This is something ingrained over at least 20 years of competitive play at this point and to try to force a change because its "technically" right is just gross wiki culture at work. These are not terms used in game nor understood by the players at large. A change like this will negatively impact competitive communities which are the primary users of such terms when trying to communicate with new players. This is at the end of the day a *fan* site and thus you do NOT need to adhere to some sort of strict rules to match exact terminology and should in fact actually focus on accessibility for the target audience. A wiki page should accurately reflect a term's usage. Language is defined by its users, not by an arbitrary group of people. This is similar in vein that you cannot redefine what a term's name is just because a translator decided to make something previously unnamed into something the community does not use. Top VGC players such as Wolfey even use these terms when creating content about these games - these are widely recognized as official terms for the community. If you want to show that it's been named "Base Stats" elsewhere, sure, but do not try to force confusion on the playerbase with this change without due community input.
This is supposed to be a resource that helps people understand these mechanics, not further alienate them from the concept. The majority of players who actively play by large still use the term "Effort Values" and do not use "Species Strength" for "Base Stats". This is something ingrained over at least 20 years of competitive play at this point and to try to force a change because its "technically" right is just gross wiki culture at work. These are not terms used in game nor understood by the players at large. A change like this will negatively impact competitive communities which are the primary users of such terms when trying to communicate with new players. This is at the end of the day a *fan* site and thus you do NOT need to adhere to some sort of strict rules to match exact terminology and should in fact actually focus on accessibility for the target audience. A wiki page should accurately reflect a term's usage. Language is defined by its users, not by an arbitrary group of people. This is similar in vein that you cannot redefine what a term's name is just because a translator decided to make something previously unnamed into something the community does not use. Top VGC players such as Wolfey even use these terms when creating content about these games - these are widely recognized as official terms for the community. If you want to show that it's been named "Base Stats" elsewhere, sure, but do not try to force confusion on the playerbase with this change without due community input.
--[[User:DkKoba|DkKoba]] ([[User talk:DkKoba|talk]]) 16:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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