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::::::I'm the one arguing against Virgil being a rival, hence why I brought him up. Tobias at least battled against Ash (and he and his Darkrai did still appear a few times prior to his battle with Ash, unlike Katie). | ::::::I'm the one arguing against Virgil being a rival, hence why I brought him up. Tobias at least battled against Ash (and he and his Darkrai did still appear a few times prior to his battle with Ash, unlike Katie). | ||
::::::I don't mind whether Tobias is removed or not, but I think Virgil should be considered as well if it does happen. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 14:37, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | ::::::I don't mind whether Tobias is removed or not, but I think Virgil should be considered as well if it does happen. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 14:37, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
:Both Tobias and Virgil have a case to be made on if they should even be included. I don't think showing up in an episode prior to the fight is enough of a qualifier for either of them to be worthy of it. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Type expert == | == Type expert == |
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