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We can spend months discussing this, but the truth is that this is just looking like a matter of conflicting points of view. To me, this seems very much to fall into the problem that the pages are based on most of Ash's relationship with other characters and not his own stories. Even though Ash is the protagonist, it's been a long time since the anime revolves around him and the rules didn't adapt to that(Goh is probably the biggest proof of that). Hence we have to expect that a Pokémon like Charizard has to have some impact on the plot of a technically unrelated character like Ash. Well, I think I elongated too much in the text I put here. I hope it resolves the discussion somehow.-- [[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 
We can spend months discussing this, but the truth is that this is just looking like a matter of conflicting points of view. To me, this seems very much to fall into the problem that the pages are based on most of Ash's relationship with other characters and not his own stories. Even though Ash is the protagonist, it's been a long time since the anime revolves around him and the rules didn't adapt to that(Goh is probably the biggest proof of that). Hence we have to expect that a Pokémon like Charizard has to have some impact on the plot of a technically unrelated character like Ash. Well, I think I elongated too much in the text I put here. I hope it resolves the discussion somehow.-- [[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 
:I want to swing back to this and point out that if [[Miette's Slurpuff]] is good enough for to be mainspaced than so should the other two, or are we really saying participating in a dance party is more relevant than anything else? [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 10:17, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 
:I want to swing back to this and point out that if [[Miette's Slurpuff]] is good enough for to be mainspaced than so should the other two, or are we really saying participating in a dance party is more relevant than anything else? [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 10:17, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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::You clearly do not get it. If Charizard (and Leon) were to compete in a race (with Ash and Goh), then something happened to Ash and Goh. If Leon doesn't have Charizard go look for Ash and Goh, and just competes in the race from start to finish (therefore unseen for a chunk of the episode), then '''''it still would not be notable'''''. Just competing is not what would make it notable.
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::The only non-battle thing Charizard did is the training. Which it didn't even do much. What can you really say? Oooooooh, it smashed a few rocks and flew through a waterfall. Wow. Riveting. Fantastic read, can sum it all up in one sentence.
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::For Milotic, again, you didn't ask others the important factor; how much of what it did was notable. Nobody on Wallace's talk page took that to account. They just saw the notability requirements and went "yep, it meets everything here" without actually thinking about what it actually did in the Wallace Cup arc and evalutaing whether it makes it notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#44BAE5">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#85D2EE">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DA7D99">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#E7ABBD">ire</span>]] 05:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
    
== Jiliang ==
 
== Jiliang ==
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:::You requested it at least once on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_11#Mainspacing_suggestion April 14, 2020], and the criteria changed on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style/Anime&diff=next&oldid=3223681 August 22, 2020]. I'm not sure that's specifically what changed but just thought I'd point it out. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 08:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 
:::You requested it at least once on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_11#Mainspacing_suggestion April 14, 2020], and the criteria changed on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style/Anime&diff=next&oldid=3223681 August 22, 2020]. I'm not sure that's specifically what changed but just thought I'd point it out. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 08:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 
::::With Miette owning a Pokemon with its own page and a second Pokemon, can Miette get her own Pokemon template--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 
::::With Miette owning a Pokemon with its own page and a second Pokemon, can Miette get her own Pokemon template--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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:::::With Slurpuff, and by extension Miette, being unlikely to appear again, I chose to re-evaluate it based off the one appearance it did have some impact, and decided what it did in that episode was notable enough. Ideally, I would like it to do more in just its debut episode, but given it's unlikely to appear again, thought I'd be a bit lenient with it.
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:::::As for giving Miette her own Pokemon template, [[Category talk:Trainer's Pokémon templates|the rule]] states that a character needs at least two of their Pokemon have articles, not that they own two or more Pokemon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#44BAE5">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#85D2EE">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DA7D99">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#E7ABBD">ire</span>]] 05:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
    
== Unblock request ==
 
== Unblock request ==
    
I humbly ask if there's a possibility to bring me back my privileges on editing the Nintendo Switch and creation trio pages. Finally, once I get my privileges on editing the Nintendo Switch and creation trio pages back, I will prove to you that I will be responsible with those pages in the future by discussing a major change, so as to avoid edit warring. --[[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 19:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 
I humbly ask if there's a possibility to bring me back my privileges on editing the Nintendo Switch and creation trio pages. Finally, once I get my privileges on editing the Nintendo Switch and creation trio pages back, I will prove to you that I will be responsible with those pages in the future by discussing a major change, so as to avoid edit warring. --[[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 19:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC)